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Yer fired!

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Yeah...and that may have been a mistake on their part, PR wise. Looking at it now, it may have been better for them to say:

"After we catch CoV up with CoH, which should take about two issues, we'll do "combined" issues. But, not to worry, because CoH will have things patched in between now and I8"

But, like I said, that's hindsight.


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Did you have this idea back in beta? Because if you did, I'm going to pm States asking them to hire you!

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Yeah, I know, optimist. Oh well. I just don't see the point to getting all worked up until the exact and complete contents of i7 are known. I learned that lesson during the great controller debacle.

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As primarily a defender player, I can't say I have alot of experience with unannouced suprises like that...

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Did you get your primary power's duration cut in half with recharge times doubled? Man, was I <bleeped>. And I posted a very angry bit to States.

Then I logged onto test...

Then I apologized.

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I said this in the thread on the training room board, but I'll repeat it here:

It might have been wiser for the devs to call these I1 and I2 for CoV, and not "combined" issues. There would have been less expectations on the CoH side. Then, we could have had I8.

Hindsight is 20/20 though.

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That makes a lot of sense, except during beta they said there wouldn't be seperate issues, they would be combined. Truth be told, my villains love what's been announced so far, my heroes are hoping some stuff hasn't been announced.

Yeah, I know, optimist. Oh well. I just don't see the point to getting all worked up until the exact and complete contents of i7 are known. I learned that lesson during the great controller debacle.

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And for the record, it's highly frustrating to see all this good news about how wonderful I7 is going to be and have the immediate reaction be, 'This isn't enough!'

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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Is that the only reaction?

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For those who don't like CoV, don't own CoV, or for any other reason only want to play CoH, is there another reaction to be had?

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I don't know... the devs have surprised us in the past with unannounced goodies...

For the record, I'm neither excited nor disappointed. I'm waiting for it to hit test so I know exactly what's in i7.

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I stand corrected, then. I've never looked too much into CoV, so. However, I think the point still stands. I mean, content gaps in CoH has been discussed since before CoV was in existence. I just figured they'd have different priorities in order. But I guess those Mayhem missions are CoV's equivalent to CoH's outdoor missions in Issue 1, but I'm sure CoV has outdoor missions, so...

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A lot of what went into CoV from development was learned from CoH. After all the time that went into building CoV, those upgrades won't be ready for CoH right away. Give them time.

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And for the record, it's highly frustrating to see all this good news about how wonderful I7 is going to be and have the immediate reaction be, 'This isn't enough!'

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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It's been that way for 6 issues now, but for the record, Pilcrow doesn't have a history of flying off the handle. He's been so level headed, especially for the whole 'ED' thing, I pm'ed States letting him know that whatever Pilcrow said counts twice, because I agree. That way, I don't have to post about it.

Anyway, with this many people interested, the odds that everyone will be happy are astronomical... at least.

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* Paragon Heights had neighborhoods named after the stars. Galaxy Girl took her name from being inspired by the neighborhood ... which then gets renamed after her. I like the balance that creates.



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Very cool sounding. And everything sounds great. On behalf of the story-<bleeps>, I apologize if we got a little intense. Some of us get a touch OCD about this stuff.

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Yep. Before a new issue hits, it's all doom and complaints. After a new issue hits, it's all doom and complaints. Welcome to the doom and complaints. See ya when it's doom and complaint time.

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It's not really the Doom And Complaints that gets me.

It's the condescension. It's the anger. It's the sense that I Am Right And You Are Wrong. It's the inability to see another person's point of view. It's the posts that insult and flame and troll and belittle other people, the nastiness that results when discussion turns to attacking.

It's the sort of thing that makes me wonder why I'm on this forum. It's the sort of thing that makes me wonder why I'm playing this game, why I'm playing any game that has me interacting with other people who can act like this towards their fellow players. It's the sort of thing that makes me wonder if I should just give up and cancel.

I keep hearing that it's worse in other MMOG forums, and CoH/V has it good. But with attacks like these, it's not good enough.

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I played EQII a little, but I wasn't interested enough in it to check out the forums. That's beside the point really. You can A) try to be the voice of reason and explain that things like tone of voice and intentions don't type too well, B) only respond to posts that you feel you can contribute to, C) take a break, try another game, find out for yourself, D) take a break from the forums and only play the game, E) submit to the games section... bwa ha ha ha ha... F) something else that I can't think of right now.

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There goes that theory.


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*shrug*

I've been wrong before... if fact the first time I had a red name post in reply to me was to correct me..

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Bad bug! You're supposed to flame me for being either an elitist snob or a n00b.

There goes that theory.

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The game doesn't revolve around Heroes, luv.

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City of Heroes does. And people who only have CoH don't get very much with I7.

The last thing I want to do is join in the whining about an issue I'm very excited about. But there isn't really a 'CoX' as such - there's CoH and CoV, and the PvP zones where they overlap. CoH does still deserve to be seen as its own game. For some people, it's the only 'City of' game they have.

I'm sure they HAVE done a lot with CoH that just isn't in the press release. New mission art, that kind of thing.

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Didn't States say they're trying to get newspaper tech, combined missions and other QoL villain stuff into CoH? I remember a post where he said they're working on it, but I don't remember if he said they're aiming for i7 with that stuff.

If they are, heroes will be very, VERY happy.

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Right then, looks like it's time for me to take a break from the forums again.

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Welcome to a new issue about to be released! I wouldn't return to the forums until at least two weeks after I7 hits live.

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Yep. Before a new issue hits, it's all doom and complaints. After a new issue hits, it's all doom and complaints. Welcome to the doom and complaints. See ya when it's doom and complaint time.



Edit - The letter D is a wiley, wicked foe indeed.

Guys, can we wait until we know definatively what's in i7 before we complain, like once it's on test?

*smacks forehead*

Sorry about that, temporary lucidity or insanity, take your pick... carry on.

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Plus I really enjoy saying "ZOOOOMMMMMMG" out loud. I think it's hilarious.


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OMG, I'm so happy to hear that.

I thought I was the only one!

ZOMG!

Pilcrow responded to me!

/em faints

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He blued out all the CoV stuff.

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Well Taser, you may not agree with me a lot. But at least you "get" me.

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With your post count nearly Cartel-esque, most of us are far too beneath you to understand anything you say.

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My post will look much better from the City of Villains boards than it looks from the City of Heroes boards.

That seems fair to me.

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Really? I had to highlight it to read it. But, my eyes are screwy.

Thanks Venture.

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You do know what a Mary Sue is, right?

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No... I know the slang meaning of Mary Jane, not Mary Sue.

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See, I'm kinda cruel I guess... I could see them logging onto alts, joining PuG's and being all shades of screwy.

What? It's what I'd do!



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So that blaster that runs into a room on his own, then drags 10 mobs to the rest of the team who is still fighing the last 10... maybe he's not dumb? Maybe he's Positron, sitting his desk saying, "How do you like me now??!!"

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Is it any wonder I'm having trouble playing my heroes since CoV?

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I wasnt there... I want to be.

They should do this again! I would LOVE to fight Scirroco (sp?) or Captain Mako. It would be interesting to brawl with Lord Recluse since he's a mastermind (I bet he has uber henchmen :P) And... I wouldnt hit Ghost Widow. I have a code of honor. They must attack first =D

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They should do it every couple of months. It would give them a chance to pay us all back for the "What were the Devs THINKING?" posts.

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See, I'm kinda cruel I guess... I could see them logging onto alts, joining PuG's and being all shades of screwy.

What? It's what I'd do!

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Could it be possible that each of the servers, representing parralel but seperate 'realities' has a slightly different history. Different enough to have confused our writers?

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That could be why, on my global friends list, people on other servers are listed as being on Freedom Shard or Triumph Shard.

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Hey Venture, read some DC comics. If you can make any sense of them, nevermind, you can't. That's why they keep coming up with more Crisis storylines. Seems people make mistakes. Maybe revisions is a better word for comics, but whatever. Happens.

I read comics until, um, just before Zero Hour. I've only peeked at them since.

Professional work should be...wait for it...professional. Inconsistencies like this aren't supposed to happen, and when they do it is fair to criticise them.

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The point is, you don't have to be rude. I have never seen a Developer being rude to us. There are more tactful ways of expressing your opinion.

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My patheticaly humble opinion? Arctic read what didn't fit in the story and has stated he's adressing it. Sorry, but I'm commending him. That's more than some people have done in the past. Yes, commending. Admitting mistakes isn't the easiest thing to do. Ask the government.

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I found a pic of him....I think he stole the Ghost Widow costume!!

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I swore I'd never type this unless I meant it... and I mean it.

ROFL!