LSK

Originally Posted by destiny_morna

Hey LSK---the PERC info has been posted on the global channels. I've actually had some people (hi omen) message me for information and some wanted to volunteer their toons or their SG leaders to be auctioned off! (Hi Chaos!).

I've referred them to your global, but i hope they'll see this thread and post any other questions they may have!

Originally Posted by Finduilas

Looks good, though I prefer the Rectified Reticle slotting in Rage--the additional perception is always nice.

Another option for Foot Stomp that I meant to mention is to drop the Scirocco's Acc/Dam for a Force Feedback Chance for +Recharge.

Originally Posted by CheshireKatt

But there is a big rule that I believe more people should listen to, when the tank says run, RUN!!!!! Pulling back and regrouping can save a team if you see someone pulling more then your team can handle. .

Originally Posted by Its_Me_Matt

Sounds like fun. My question is... when we tackle AVs, GMs etc. No source of debuffs unless temporary power Envenom Dagger. Brutes need fury to dish out some nice damage, how is the taunting be fixed?

Originally Posted by DoctorWhat

Resistance doesn't have a soft cap, just a hardcap. It's 90% for tankers.

Originally Posted by HarbingersGale

One of Dark Melee's strengths is a strong single target attack chain. This depends on DPA. I recommend picking up all three quick single target punches and dropping Shadow Maul as it'll slow down your ST DPS.

Removing Shadow Maul guts any feeble AOE you we're planning on doing with Dark Melee but you can do better AOE by picking up Mu Mastery anyway. AOE is Dark Melee's biggest drawback so I highly recommend any APP that fills in that gap (which Energy Mastery does not do).

You shouldn't need as much base recovery as other toons as you have two aoe end recovery powers available to you.

I have done a quick-n-dirty build that shows my suggestions.

Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down

I generally don't use generic IOs, so I really couldn't say. My wife, who does use GenIOs, says that if you shop carefully it's achievable. Don't buy the IOs directly from WW/BM(unless the prices are really good). Get the recipes and craft them. You can get the Gen. IO recipes from WW or the crafting table. Craft the Generic drops you get as well. If the salvage is pricier then you wish to spend, consider doing some AE for tickets and purchasing Uncommon and Rare salvage that way. Common Salvage via the AE isn't all that expensive, but they are random rolls. Make sure you're doing the rolls at the right level for the right drops. http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Invention_Salvage_Tiers

I should have mentioned that you need to have purchased Going Rogue to be able to earn Hero/Villain Merits. You can only get tip mission by defeating lvl20+ enemies in the game and they will randomly drop. They will show up under contacts/tips. You can get each of the Unique IOs for 250ish regular merits or 2 Hero/Villain Merits. If you've got the cash you can also convert 50 regular merits and 20 million per day into an Alignment merit (Hero/Villain merit). Hero side this is done at Fort Trident in Atlas park. Again, this is only accessible if you've got Going Rogue.

You could probably get away without using the Numina and Miracle uniques, but considering how many toggles you're running, my personal preference would be to get and slot them. It's really up to you.

Originally Posted by FederalAgent

Wow. I'm pretty glad I asked! The biggest shame is that by trying to build on my own after about three years away from the game is that not only did I apparently make a huge mess of it but I wasted millions and millions of inf!

I'm really pleased to hear that the toon is salvageable, however.

As I mentioned I'm not a mids guy, but I'm still seeing my def capped for S/L/E/N. Aside from pure psi attacks, shouldn't I be more or less alright? Is it just that Aracnos, as was said already, has substantial to-hit buffs?

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

It's an Ice tank, the resistances are going to be low because the only source of any resistance other than Cold (and a piddly amount of Fire) is Tough. he really has no way to get resistance to anything else. At least not enough of it to actually make a difference.



I hadn't noticed that. This is absolutely right.

By putting that piece in Hibernate, it means you only get the bonus when you are using Hibernate. The rest of the time it is doing nothing at all.

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus

The thread has derailed quite a bit, that's true.

However Mauk's build IS about Tankers.


Johnny keeps spouting, endlessly, his nonsense point about Brutes "only having 10% less max HP"


He likes to say that because it makes all brutes sound much more resilient than they are. Its his way of constantly twisting information to suit his agenda.

When the reality is only Stone and Invuln (and eventually regen most likely) can currently even get to the Brute HP cap, and that will require some heavy build sacrifices that are not as dramatic or even required on the Tanker.




Look at Mauk's Build.

He has focused on high softcapped defenses, has a good deal of +HP bonuses and yet has 2950 HP or so vs. Tanker Invuln builds that can sit at 3500 and he sacrificed a fair amount of recharge as well as 2 AoE attacks to get there (Which is a decrease in offense).

This is not the "only 10% less max HP" that Johnny keeps ranting about.

It also ignores, repeatedly, the inconveniently significant Base Defense and Base Resistance advantages of the tanker.

An solid Invuln Tanker build can get to 90% SM/L Res, and sit 3500 HP with DP running.

Its also easier to get DP perma, as Tankers have more starting DEF to work off of to hit softcap and can focus on more Rech, as well as +HP bonuses to help them cap.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Major problem I see: You are slotting sets that give POSITIONAL defense bonuses on a power set that gives you TYPED defense.

For the record, if you aren't sure the soft cap for defense is 45%.

I can't open the build from work, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of sets in ther that give you decenttyped defense bonuses, most of what I see is giving positional.

(yes, positional bonuses also give typed bonuses, but at half the amount)

Your 6 Red Fortunes are giving you 2.5% ranged defense, but only 1.25% Energy/Negative defense.

You WAY overslotted Combat Jumping. Your 6 slotting of that power is giving you less than a 2% improvement to your overall defense. Pull 4 of those slots out and use them somewhere they'd be more useful.

I can tell just by looking at your build that you are not soft capped. I think what you probably did that is giving you that perception is you set Energy Absorption to 10 targets and left it on when you calculated your defense. Since you only 2 slotted it for end recovery, I'm guessing you are not using it proactively to boost your defense in a fight.

You are getting out of your existing defense set bonuses:

2.5% E/N defense
roughly 2.75% F/C defense
about 3% S/L defense

That isn't enough to soft cap your defense without heavily relying on Energy Absorption to make up the difference, which it doesn't look like you're doing when you play the character (though you probably DID in Mid's and it made you think you were softcapped).

I'll try and take a look at the build when I get home from work today, if no one else beats me to it. I'm not the best with Ice tanks, but I know where most of the set bonuses you want for it can be found.

Originally Posted by Crazyfist

Untoldhero, I just saw your expensive softcapped build in link in your sig. That looks just about as close to perfection that EL/SS can get. I am going to adopt that in basically its entirety and start saving cash. Thanks

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Originally Posted by untoldhero

I think its funny that scrappers are
Considered over powered along with brutes because they start with lower base hit points, lower base resistance and less based defence than a tank but more dmg, yet no one mentions the fact that well built trollers can tank LR in the stf? Actually well built trollers can do anything. Also tanks can very much do tremendouse dmg "thanks LSK for the quote"

Originally Posted by untoldhero

Yep id say u did. Also may I mention??? That last night my ela/ss was getting 1055 dpa with knockout blow on domonique (av) there was a sonic defender on the team and let me tell you I was smashing some skull!