Kiralyn

Yep. Four pieces - half a square width & full square width, at one safe and three safes tall. And maybe one or two "placement grid squares" thick.

Then slap three or four textures on them. (Tech, arcane, plain, wood?)

(Or six pieces - 1/3, 1/2, and 1 square wide)



......along with an "up/down/left/right/forward/backward" cursor control for item placement. Use the numpad buttons. Nudge items one placement grid space per press.

Yeah, the generator in a room by itself is pretty plain. But there's various ways to dress it up a bit.

And a lot of the "industrial" decorating bits are big and pretty cheap, so you can make the room look better for not too much prestige. (Tech and Factory pillars, a few barrels/wire bundles/wall vents; plus the industrial-style walls and mood lighting.)

And doesn't it have a little "this is how your title will look" thing at the bottom of the window? Of course, it's kinda small, if I'm remembering correctly (been awhile since the last time I adjusted a title. :/ )

Ah, but think of all the interesting decorating you can do with that empty space!

Build a fancy control & conference room overlooking your pads. Or, throw all the pads/etc in one half of the room, make all but one square down the middle solid (you can do that on the 'adjust floor/ceiling' panel), and poof! two separate rooms with a "doorway" between them.


(Only interesting if you're trying to decorate, of course. From a functional standpoint..... doesn't really do anything.)

Clearly, you haven't played WoW in a good long while.

They had some pretty amazing downtime after Wrath launched, and after each of the Wrath content patches.

WoW's *normal* maintenance downtime is longer than CoX's, let alone when they need longer for emergencies.

Ah! Yeah, that would do it. It keeps saying my last visit was 8/7/09 at 12:40.

Whee.

Ah, but in a multiplayer game, some playstyles can impact on the other players.

For example, in some other games, someone might enjoy spending four hours wiping out all the NPCs in the opposing faction's newbie zone..... thereby ruining the playstyle of all those newbies. Especially if it's a non-PvP game.

The "hurting other players" thing is also one of the main arguements against the RMTers in many games - the RMT crowd ends up distorting the in-game economy, screwing things up for anyone who doesn't use their services.

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Side reminder for people joining us in the middle of a thread - the "anti-Farming" debate is about the possible broken-ness of AE powerleveling (and how it may be a bad initial example of the game for new players), not farming the War Wall/PI/etc for purples and Inf.

I'd just like a clarification on this.


Is it your position that, until the Devs said "no, don't do that", there was absolutely nothing wrong (i.e, no one could look at the situation and say, 'heck, that ain't right') with gaining boatloads of XP/Inf from an MA map filled with completely passive Healing Mitos?

That this was not an obvious exploit?

And the devs *have* been changing it (slowly) to close up loopholes, restrict exploits, and limit behaviors they don't approve of.

One of the ways the Devs find out about these things? By people debating about them on the forums, and/or reporting things in game.



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"Farming" (and/or "grinding") is a time honored RPG/MMO occupation. (I've done plenty of each, in games from Ultima 1 to Final Fantasy 8 to WoW) Exploiting/cheating, however, shouldn't be. Figuring out where exploiting begins is, of course, the challenging part.

The little down arrow's seemed broken for me the last couple days. Keeps jumping to the *same* unread post, regardless of the fact that I've read them several times and the thread has gotten more new posts since. :/

Any particular reason that you're being intentionally obtuse?

"Make map" = design an MA mission -> choosing a map that allows high mob density, maximum # of spawns, minimum travel time; populating that map with large amounts of the most valuable mobs you can kill easily; populating that map with NPC buffers to keep you from ever being threatened; etc.

i.e, rigging an ideal situation for maximum XP+Inf/hour with minimum risk.

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It's especially silly that you're attacking one of the more balanced entries in this thread, which acknowledges that both sides of the arguement are engaging in massive hyperbole.

Between the much shorter amount of time the Mac client has been out, and the (presumably) smaller population of players...... there most likely hasn't been anyone inspired to write editor/etc programs for the platform.

Yeah, that's part of it. Once you get far enough, new contacts generally only show up via introductions from older contacts. (at least in my somewhat limited experience.)

So, if you level past a zone, you still need to go back and talk to the contacts you had there, just so you'll get some starting contacts for your current level range.

O_o

Yeah, that is silly. Yeesh.

Most likely because, all the threads complaining about "farming" aren't complaining about farming.... they're referring to exploitative AE powerleveling.

You just have a very, very specific definition of "farm", and seem to react negatively to people who are using the term in a different way.

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My take on it:

In general terms, "farming" is repeating some task ad nauseum, in pursuit of gathering some resource. Also, presumably, in some efficient manner.

People powerleveling are "farming" XP.
People doing TFs and Ouro arcs over and over might be "farming" Merits.
People might farm Inf, or salvage drops, or purple drops, etc, etc, etc.
(People in other MMOs might "farm" a certain Boss, trying to get the rare "resource" that only he drops.)


And, hey, that's all well and good...... until you find an exploit that lets you get "resource" much faster than other players and/or with less effort/risk/etc than the designers intend.

When people complain about AE Farming, they're complaining about abusively, absurdly, irrationally fast and easy powerleveling.

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Side anecdote - the only time I stepped into AE over the 2XP weekend was when I wanted to farm....... common salvage! I leveled several of my alts (via contact missions) into the mid-high teens over the weekend, and wanted to keep a steady supply of Damage/Accuracy/Recharge/EnduraceReduce IOs on hand for them to use.

This ran me out of lowbie common salvage really quickly.... and I wasn't about to pay the WW prices. A couple quick solo runs through a couple AE arcs gave me a few hundred tickets - which turns into *alot* of common salvage at 8 tickets each.