Kioshi

Thanks, lots of great responses!

I'm quite experienced with controllers, in fact my 1st and 3rd 50s were very high-maintenance toons, a mind/emp and a fire/kin, made the fire/kin for farming and my coalition at the time was gonna PL him but I enjoyed him so much I ended up leveling the hard way and by the time he had a s/l capped build and was ready for teh uber loot... I shelved him, too much playtime, but I don't regret it

My mind/emp is probably my most expensive build and the busiest toon I ever had, she has so many binds that if I logged her today I'd take half an hour to remember them all lol.

I've played Plant till 35 on doms (plant/thorns, plant/ice), but hadn't thought about tornado doing containment damage and how roots can be used for damage since well, doms have damaging secondaries as you know. I forgot about spirit tree because on doms I'm used to take aid self, except for my ice/psi (gotta admit that I'm really not used to having a toon with no self-heal, my/sd and /sr scrappers have aid self too).

Since the plant/ice is shelved and has a nice costume I'll make her a plant/storm.

I'll look for builds, not sure how to slot creepers since my doms were never set-IO'ed, just frankenslotted for acc/dam/rech on creepers. But I like Local's slotting for them, I usually don't go too crazy on procs (like, Freezing Rain usually gets one Achilles and them 1 acc / 2 rech). Fly Trap accepts Achilles too IIRC - I only had her frankenslotted for acc/dam and didn't use her so much since I ditched the plant/thorns at 35 but the pet didn't impress me, maybe I'm wrong but I even liked Jack Frost more, although I had way more playtime with my ice/psi.

Thanks a lot for the help, I know Plant well and played Storm quite a bit but from what was posted the synergy seems impressive, I didn't realize all the damage potential. I barely see Stormies in the game but I remember a Defender and my dm/da scrapper just clearing the rest of an ITF everybody had left, and I was in his Hurricane area all the time. When he left the romans completely owned me lots of times, that was the one time I saw a Stormie being awesome (mainly because I never saw many of them in the higher levels - like Stalkers, you see a lot of them till 20 and them they seem to disappear, no pun intended ).

No idea if they'll get it, but if they do, I highly doubt they get a taunt aura.

A concealment/+def power like Cloak of Darkness / Energy Cloak is far more likely and a natural replacement for Hide.

They'd need something to replace Caltrops too since it's in the Weapon epics. Maybe some passive power that does a little something like the ones in regen or invul.

I never had a high level stormie and I'm willing to roll one. Got a 30ish mind/storm but as much as I love mind control, I'm thinking I won't like Tornado and LS without an immob.

So... I rarely see stormies ingame besides some defenders, and I see people raving about plant/storm here and how they can go fast through x6 or x8 mobs (and fire/storm but I'm sick of fire control, plus I hear this combo is hell on the blue bar).

Is it a damaging combo before epics? If so, is it mainly because of creepers+immob+tornado and LS?

What do you guys build for? Recharge and defense I guess?

Do you feel the need to have a self heal? I usually have toons that can heal themselves.

Thanks!

Here's a video - that was before the patch (so plain BU), and as you can see the player doesn't really leverage momentum because in normal gameplay you don't need OMG MOMENTUM since it's up after each strike anyway.

But interesting nonetheless to see what TW is capable of even not playing like 'like a pro', just casual play there. I tried to make a video at +1/x8 with my bumped 50 TW/Regen but failed because I never played regen so I got hammered pretty fast lol.

(You can also see the sounds are pretty lackluster compared to say, Stone Melee and even Broadsword, but no matter how much we complain in beta nobody seems to care)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS5jy55HvC4

I once played a fire/fire blaster up to 32, he dropped all the time.

I love the FF +Rech proc in Fault (I have 5 stupefys for cheap great bonuses and good accuracy since Fault has an acc penalty). You can put it in tremor too if you want.

I'd skip Spring attack, I find it weak even at full fury (took it for lulz once in a claws/fire AE farmer). Also I'd remove the second slot from taunt and put a taunt/range io.

Lookie at how much they care about Stalkers - latest beta notes:

Can pets solo a GM on their own? Like, taking an extremely good Lore Pet like Vicky and company (or another, doesn't matter) and using a resilient toon like a Tanker just spamming taunt?

Teams don't expect Recall Friend, really.

You can soft cap without the fighting pool but find somewhere to put the stedfast unique - the heal can take it since it provides toxic res.

Doesn't matter if you take Boxing or Kick, you won't be using them anyway, they're crap powers. Difference is you can slot a stun set in boxing and a kb set in Kick, and Stupefy (stun) and Kinetic Crash have great bonuses (you can even use K. Crash as your sole KB protection if you feel it's enough).

Hasten is nice for /nin, mostly because of the heal. Not a necessity tho, I have an IO'ed EM/Nin that left the mez protection on auto and I often forgot to click Hasten and didn't feel it made a lot of difference like it does for certain sets like regen. I usually pick Hasten on my toons after 22 because of SOs.

Kin Melee is not very end heavy, Stalkers in general aren't end heavy, but you'll probably want some endred in your attacks, maybe not in AS since you won't be using it too often in the later levels. I skip the tier 1 in most sets except in special cases (like Katana/N. Blade where the tier 1 is better than the 2)

The rest, Errant covered well.

I made a thread about this when I noticed the change on Beta, you're not the only one disappointed: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=276192