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Yeah but you see, since you also don't agree with some ports (like you said you also think DB is not very fitting for Brutes), I say let them have it.

Plus, TW is just perfect for the Stalker playstyle, I thought this the moment I was done beta testing the TPN trial and had time to solo with my level bumped TW/Regen brute, when I got a better grasp of the set's mechanics. The AS-tons of fast burst attacks in sequence would fit a Stalker perfectly.

It'd be an easy port, get rid of the middle tier cone, replace with AS, replace taunt with Placate and done.

And well, if you're talking about non 'stalkery' weapons, Stalkers got broadsword, which makes meatier noises than TW btw. Also, Brutes recently got the most elegant weapon set (imo), Katana. So why stop? You can play whatever you want, and even though I find DB highly not Brutish, I was never bothered to team with a DB Brute. Same way I have fun telenuking and staying hidden in my elm stalker no matter how little sense that makes (after all Lightning Rod is as subtle as a Blaster nuke).

I plan to wait on getting TW because I have too many alts and have been a bit burned out, but if I could make a TW Stalker I'd probably have bought the set impulsively because I like the AT a lot.

Have you even LOOKED at the beta feedback threads?

One example: since October, people saying the TPN Trial has too many gimmicks and most of the time nobody knows why they failed because there are too many things going on at once, besides things like civilians one-shotting you. Also, complaints about Maelstrom killing half the league when he felt like it. 1 month of feedback, mostly constructive, and completely ignored. Not even a 'Ok thanks but we'll keep it that way'.

Titan Weapons got a lot of feedback too, which actually helped since Synapse talked to us in the thread and changed some power names, animation for Arc of Destruction, but still, the set went live despite the numerous feedback about the lackluster sounds of the set (does smashing damage, has windy sounds unlike SS or Stone Melee) and the sounds are still a bit out of sync with the animations, these were reported NUMEROUS times.

Most bugs the OP posted were reported BEFORE they went live. If you are writing such nonsense you should go visit the Beta feedback threads, they're all there for you to see. There are tons of posts about bugs like 'I can't believe I reported this so many times and it went live like that' (not talking about things that aren't bugs like the TPN example, because a trial being complicated and gimmicky is not necessarily bad for everyone and if it needs adjusting they probably will do later).

You don't have to believe me, the thread about TW has almost 900 posts on it so no, lots of us didn't go there just to 'oooo lemme play with a level bumped TW toon' - http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=276097

Even more 'superfluous' things like the Gunslinger costume pack had over 500 replies on beta.

EDIT: Weirdly, you were one of the first ones to post about the TPN Trial, I just saw. I don't know how you can think and post that beta players only go there for the shinies. So... Don't you find it weird that the thread has 100 posts and not a single answer from the devs, not even a 'thanks but we're happy the way it is'? Kinda discourages people from testing it, especially since you have to schedule to form a trial in Beta.

Lol I had forgotten SB Mail existed, that was awesome.

So now I can say...

I never had to herd anybody, just jump in the middle of mobs with my FM/SD scrapper or my SD/MA Tanker (also, I have Taunt on the Tanker).

Plus especially for Tankers, which are easy to softcap, it's not like you're gimp compared to a SR when tanking a single foe like an AV since you'll have way more resist and HP than the SR fellow.

With SR you softcap and then... You're like a SR scrapper with a sucky taunt aura and more hp, SD has way more possibilities with IOs, including getting capped DDR if you go cheatyface with HOs, and a boatload more damage (remember Shield Charge) plus the mez protection is like WP's (it's against basically everything like fear confuse etc, unlike all the other sets).

Lol I must get that sometime, I have it on a level locked catgirl for the lulz but I never slotted it well. Since she's a claws/fire made for lowbie farming and harvesting lvl 33 IOs and lowbie ambush farms suck now (plus no desire to level her up), I gotta think of a toon I can fit that in.

That may be a wild guess but I think he might have taken Power Sink

Anyway you can have close to 18% def to all with weave, CJ, maneuvers and the two def uniques.

5 sets of kin combats = 18.75 so let's say 36.5% s/l, the rest you make up by finding some more s/l def set bonuses (im Mids menu - Window - Set Bonus Finder). Reactive Armors in your resist shields and one of the taunt sets in Taunt or even Power Sink for example. Two rectified retiles in Build Momentum / Tactics also give you some s/l, and if you must, the melee def sets give half the value in s/l def.

TW having only 3 ST attacks (iirc, didn't buy the set, but tested it on beta) you may want to mule boxing/brawl with KCs tho.

Yeah, couldn't agree more. I like Brutes (especially now with easy Fury building and maintaining) because I can deal a helluva damage and protect the squishies when needed (I dislike Tankers' damage, even a fire/fire didn't do it for me).

When I wanna kinda do my thing on teams without worrying much about others I use my Stalkers (yeah they are inferior in basically every way to scrappers and brutes but I like the playstyle). Sadly the lolStalker is the guy that never gets Fortitude, Adrenalin Boost or the other long recharging buffs that are usually cast in 1-3 teammates at a time

Oh the horror!

But I'll counter this with tolerance...

I hadnt read this question, you mean a gun wielding toon with mez protection, capped defenses to everything and able to solo GMs without incarnate stuff as a bonus?

Beam Rifle/Traps corr. Or DP, or AR. AR might be bad on the soloing GMs stuff tho

Maybe she finds SR a bit squishy for Tankers since it's a purely defensive set and besides the HP and bit higher resists from tough you won't have much more mitigation than a softcapped Brute/Scrapper.

Only thing wrong with the set is that the Taunt aura is terribad with a 1 sec duration, which I believe is a bug because Brute SR has the usual 13.6 duration in Evasion.

Oh I was kinda joking because there's another thread talking about Stalker theme and whatnot and I was the one who said 'yeah DB is so Brutish, Lightning Rod is so Stalkerish'.

Anyway you're right, I'm not even sure I'll get the power set (although I found it very fun in Beta) because I haven't been playing much and favor ranged toons (and Stalkers), and even then I haven't leveled my BR toon past 30 which is the only set I bought, but I logged in just to get the weapon pack in case I buy it later. Even not being a melee fan I found TW plenty fun.

Yeah the efects are all meh, the power has too much going on and ends up doing nothing special except for the initial hold.

So when you cast it, it summons a pseudopet that does 8s Held (mag 3) (after 0.25 second delay), which is good, but after that the effects are lackluster, the other pseudopet that ticks every second does very little damage and the chance to hold and end drain are too low.

4s Held (mag 3) (after 0.25 second delay) (2% chance)
-10% Endurance (2% chance)
-100% Recovery (mag 10)
1.67 Toxic damage

Looks like the only consistent effects for the duration of the second psudopet are the -100% recovery and the ZOMG 1.67 toxic damage per sec.

While I can see your point from the RP concept (like DB on Brutes), I played the set on beta at 50 on a TW/Regen Brute and it felt very tailored to the Stalker playstyle: use AS (which would likely give you momentum if it were ported) - unleash a ton of burst damage and then keep scrapping it out just like any decent Stalker does after DOs/SOs, especiallly after level 30 when you can one shot only an orange lieut tops (and not all the time) with BU+AS due to mob scaling hp. Plus the hit and run playstyle was mostly a PVP thing and very inefficient in PvE, even before the i12 Stalker changes I was usually in scrapper mode with my first Stalker, EM/Nin. AS actually barely needs recharge slotting because you won't use it everytime it's up unlike other big hitters that are part of an attack chain (that may change in i22 tho).

But well I disagree that it shouldn't be ported to Stalkers because I have one that goes BOOM in the middle of a mob, damaging everyone around severely and knocking them down, remains hidden and can use AS or Thunderstrike with critical later (Elec/EA). I won't even say anything about glowing like a Xmas tree (Elec Armor) because somebody will say that /ELA is justified because you bend electrons or something like that to Hide like I saw before in the forums lol.

Oh don't start that, somebody will come and say TW is not Stalkerish, then someone else will say that DB and Katana are not Brutish and it will be all doom again

(I'd have bought the powerset even thought I'd have to spend money for it and haven't been playing much lately if it were available to Stalkers btw)