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I won't laugh because I once suggested that during the old Domination, Dom can control the pets but then Mind doesn't have pet. lol

Giving each path damage proc would be nice. That way I don't feel like I am missing out a lot if I don't choose Reactive.

Damage proc is my deciding factor IMO.

Agree.

In regular content, Defender will out-damage but in the case of AV/GM, I think Corr eventually wins simply because scourge kicks in after 50% of health.

Rad/Sonic is the only Defender combo that I think it has a clear advantage over Corruptor in most cases but not by that much. You still should decide what you want first. Blast or Support.

Stalker needs to have a "clear" advantage in damage over Brute/Scrapper due to less survival. Right now, there is no clear advantage. To out-damage Scrapper in first 10s, Assassin Strike needs to be used. This isn't a clear advantage on Stalker's part because Stalker loses mobility. To do SIMILAR Scrapper damage in the long run, Stalker needs to have 7 teammates around him but this excludes any secondary that offers even more damage or stacking buffs like follow-up.

I am not suggesting Stalker should one-shot everything in this game. lol But right now, Assassin Strike and team critical isn't 'free'. There are conditions. Stalker doesn't have a clear advantage in terms of damage over Scrapper and some Brute and I think the dev should address that. :P

And Seismic Smash has mag 4 hold. So it's BOTH huge st damage on top of hard control on most bosses.

No, I am counting all the new sets that have been announced so far. Proliferated, free, and cash set - they are all "new" sets.

I am merely pointing out there is no announcement for Dominator in issue 21 and potentially right after 21. We'll see.

Oh I completely forgot about Titan Weapon. So let's see...

New Sets that we know in Issue 21:
Titan Weapon for 4 melee ATs
Street Fighting for 4 melee ATs
Time Manuplation for 4 ATs
Beam Rifle for 3 ATs
Blaster got Dark/Dark. Yes, I consider them new.

So with proliferated sets...

Brute - 5 sets (titan, street, ninja, broad, regen)
Scrapper - 5 sets (titan, street, mace, axe, energy aura)
Tanker - 4 sets (titan, street, martial, sr)
Corruptor - 4 sets (time, poison, psionic, beam)
Defender - 4 sets (time, beam, fire, thermal)
Blaster - 3 sets (dark, dark m, beam)
Stalker - 3 sets (ice, titan, street)
Controller - 2 sets (poison, time)
MM - 2 sets (sonic, time)

Dominator - zero point zero.

This is the picture so far but of course they can always announce more later. And when is issue 22 coming out again? Next year?

It's gotta be Whip Assault/Control. Why else would animation take that long to make? Dark Illusion won't even need new animations. They can simply just take some from Illusion and take some from /Dark.

Looks like Beam Rifle and Street Fighting will be using old animations.... hehe

I just want to know what the new set is for Dominator. Dom isn't getting anything new in Issue 21 and 3rd round of Proliferation while other ATs get several new sets.

So it is safe to assume that in issue 22, Dom should get two new sets?

Dark Illusion / Dark Assault

and

Whip Control (Gadget/Riot Control) / Whip Assault.

Wow 6 times?

I think it is the Fire DoT damage that is too good. The -resist part is ok. I thought the dot part only stack 4 times.

No, AS's problem is even more obvious in sets like Martial Arts (haven't tried Energy Melee but it seems that way to me as well) that already has one big hitter (or two big hitters TF and ET).

I don't necessary prefer AoE but I do believe every set needs to have at least one aoe. There is a difference. Prefer means I only like sets like Spines which I don't. I believe a healthy mix of ST and AoE. Hell, Dragon Tail (or Whirling Hand) is not even the best pbaoe in the game but it sure beats not having any at all. Having it means you have the OPTION. You don't need to spam it but at least when the situation is right, you can use it effectively. Not having it means you don't even have that option.

At the loss of pbaoe and mobility, yes, I do expect a lot more from Assassin Strike. I do think the purpose of AS is better during lower levels. The damage just doesn't scale up well when the content gets harder and when you have access to lvl 32 power like Eagle Claw and Midnight Grasp. And of course it's all by comparison as well. When Stalker has Assassin Strike at lvl 6, most ATs don't even have a heavy hitter. In that case, Stalker's burst ST damage has a good purpose to take down an annoying boss. But once you are at lvl 50, most ATs can deliver "high enough" burst damage to the point that setting up Assassin Strike is just not effective. "Useless" is probably too strong of a word choice.


We did weekly ITF last night and I took out my 51 Kin/Dark. I only used BU + AS once in 3rd stage on the computer. That was it. All the other time it was unnecessary. It was too slow or the damage wasn't enough for the time spent or it was overkill if I need to kill a Surgeon.

Assassin Strike can be useful if you are Spines since that will be your best heavy hit to start the battle.

You talk like Dominator is the only AT that got new sets recently.

I think people are just anxious to hear what is new for Dom.

And yes, they did say they have no time to port a set in this round of Proliferation but they announced FOUR NEW SETS for all core ATs except for Dominator. The announcement of Street Fighting and Beam Rifle is a bit shocking to me because I was under the impression that they don't have time to make "new" sets at all. Well, obviously, they do have time. They just don't have time for Dominator in issue 21.

If issue 21 is as big as it seems, then it is even "bitter" that Dominator isn't getting anything new.

I just want to know WTF is that "exciting' set. Just announce it! How come I have a feeling there is no plan..currently. They may have some rough ideas but "plan" is not yet formed.

(although from profit point of view, making new cash sets that can be used in 3 or 4 ATs is better than making one for only one AT. Dominator isn't even in the top 3 most used.)

The debuff % only goes up to about 20% with four stacks or only up to 10%? I keep forgetting the %.

I just think other defensive choices don't debuff that much especially when you take resistance and level difference into consideration.

Assassin Strike is only useful (in my opinion anyway) if it can effectively kill threats fast. During lower levels, AS has its use. At lvl 50? It sucks hard.

Yes, I know AS's damage drops just like any other attack but if AS can't even kill a +2 Lieut, then its purpose is greatly reduced especially at the loss of a pbaoe.

And in the case of Eagle Claw, sometimes it is better for me to open with EC than AS. Example one, if I am fighting a boss with god mode. If I open with AS and then Eagle Claw, not only I won't kill him, he'll immediately use god mode and I have to spend more time messing with him. In this case, I would open with BU + EC and then Cobra. I have a good chance to stack two stuns on him and then I have a better chance finishing him off.

Another example is "overkill" situation. If I spend 6s to set up BU + AS, I might as well just use full BU duration to kill 2-3 targets.


At the loss of doing a bit less damage (BU + Eagle hits quite hard), I get mobility, speed, efficiency and less endurance cost (especially if I get interrupted). A good assassin needs to eliminate fast IMO. There's no time to set up 4-5s. You wanna kill something? Do it quick. That's my idea of assassin.

Yes, Assassin Strike needs to be faster (less activation time and no interruption), efficient (in terms of endurance cost) and deadly (needs to hit harder at lvl 50).


I guess my point is that in the case of Eagle Claw, it can be used efficiently as a mini-assassin strike because it critical hard and has no restrictions. I don't deny BU + AS hits hard...probably the hardest thing in the game.

Assassin Strike is useful at lower level but its effectiveness drops greatly when you can't even BU + AS a +2 Longbow Nullifier. That's why people ask for scaling damage but it's too hard to balance scaling.

Is there a reason why Stalker's stealth is suppressed? Has anyone asked dev about this? This is another PvP reason?

I made a Dark/Energy Brute specifically for the unsuppressed stealth which is surprisingly fun.

It's another example of how Stalker "should" be the master of something and yet fails... nobody should stealth better than Stalker IMO. Stalker should also have unsuppressed stealth so he can move in to kill and sometimes not to be noticed.