Jiaozy

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and are better.

[/ QUOTE ]No one of them can be better or worse than the other because they are DIFFERENT...
Plus, everyone plays a PB, so roll a WS!!!

And yes, they both have only 1 Hold power....

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Where is that bloke who was on about Defenders being rubbish, I will so prove to him that NO controller can do what a Rad Rad can do.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeh, they can do it better because the debuffs are SLIGHTLY worse but trollers have pets, controls and Containement...

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Phil, now everyone will laugh at you, not just me.....
I phil sorry for you........ :|

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The only reason I said about the special olympics is I would guess that takes a lot of organisation. So I wouldn't like to do it. If you ever read the special olympics website you will see it takes a lot of organisation.

Thats not my opinion...thats a fact. If that offends you then feel free to write to them (or email) and tell them why you are so offended that they take a lot of organisation.

And put it this way ladies...your way DIDN'T WORK.

My way....well we'll never know now because you lot were too spineless to even try after your tiring 3 hours of PvP. Oh....I just be all that clicking and slight mouse movements sent you straight off to the land of nod. Again, not my opinion...just a fact.

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Chillblaze, I haven't switched any of your words and I certaimnly haven't switched any of mine! Incorrect use of the word you're....but I'll ignore that and assume you are not an English speaker.

I am so convinced, because your way didn't work. Therefore we must assume that you lot are not the cleverest of people. We will never know if my way would have worked. But as Nefarious is betting against it (and he is one of these not so clever people), I am betting it would have worked.

The only reason the server crashed was because of the mito spawn and lots of people going to the hospital at the same time.

Nefarious, I'm not after winning the affections of geeks for Gods sake. You might be but I am not. This isn't a popularity contest. Its an I'm right and you are wrong contest. And I'm right!

Did I say I got them hamis on this server? Did I? Statements like that show what a 'clever' person you are.

P.S. Nude or naked Olympics is one (was probably on Eurotrash).


[/ QUOTE ]Posts insulting like these would've got you banned from many forums across Europe, if you're used to trow s.hit at everyone that doesn't think like you do, you really are a poor man without any real base for your theory and that, like kids do, trow abuse when they can't give proof of what they say...

Or maybe just a kid who acts big because you can't be beaten up since you're behind a monitor..

Dunno if you have any idea of what HAVING TO GO AT WORK means, but maybe that if after the Siren's call event you should've had to wake at 5, i don't think you should have gone to the raid...

And MAYBE there's some other people like me that has something else to do at morning that just sleeping, wich can prevent us from stayin up too much...

You say there were 4 Siren's call and that's true, but you're so smart(not)that you never counted the loads of people who NEVER have CoH but just got CoV, the LOADS of people that were there with their main toons wich was, say lvl 20? 25?

Wich use can have a lvl 25 in an Hami raid?
Tell me, because you sure must know better than me because you're so expert...

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If you recall MANF....I said that we should have done it after the Siren's Call event. Remember now? When there were more people on.

But oh no. Mr REAL RAID had to snub the idea. And now look where that got him. No hami for anyone. So don't anyone dare start to cry about the raid. Because if it had been done when I suggested it - it would have worked.

[/ QUOTE ]Would have worked NOT, you mean?

If in your dear US servers, where they have the numbers, the knowledge and will to try it weekly HAS STILL TO GO DOWN, I don't see why having tired people after a mass-pvp and before a work day would have helped to kill him...

I never understood if he left the SG only or if he's leaving CoH..

If you're living CoH, see you soon, because it's too addictive as game to just drop like that.

If you're leaving the SG, I hope to see you around because the few times i teamed with you I had fun.

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Hobojack's Post, cut for space reason ;p

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Ooooooook, I had a bad day at work, was pretty upset with everything that wasn't working as intended (°_°) but really wasn't my intetion to type things that harsh..
Excuse me a lot but i did that reply in a rush and never thought of it twice..
People that know me may know that i may a BIT sarcastic but not that bad..

Really sorry again Chives...

But in the end...
I blame Aero for EVERYTHING.

50% resistance from what? 0.o'
With only the PB shield u can have around 35%res to everything and 48% or so to nrg and negative..

A fire tank with fire and plasma shield has 47% res to all except 16% to Ice and 94% to Fire.

A stone tank has 25% res to everything but fire, cold and toxic but 39% defense vs fire and cold, with granite this changes in 78% res to everything but psionics, 94% res to smash lethal(stone skin 3 slotted) and almost 32% def to everything.

An Invuln has something like 63% res to smash lethal and 27% to other elements plus almost 33% defense from everything with Invincibility.

Ice tankers get almost 40% defense against every type of damage, but little to no resistance.

These values are without any power pool.

Now i reckon that you can be slightly better of a stone tanker pre-granite(due to PBs Dull Pain + Reconstruction)but since you're talkin of Light Form you have to be at least 38, so in full reach for Granite.

No doubt that you can get better res than a Blaster, but in human form you're no where near a tanker's def/res

As I believe you're no where near the dmg output of a blaster or a scrapper...

Kheldians are, as you said in another thread, jack of all trades master of nothing..

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Thanks Ji your just bitter mate

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Oh and this is what I've got to say about J's costume plan - Huzzah! (BTW the Pa lead has to wear this)

[/ QUOTE ]That was not my plan, and this shows how n00b you are when not talkin about pvp or scrappers, that's what i could recall fromTHIS post, that was linked from Jersey in his Raid Post..
The basic idea was to liink it or copy/paste to give the EU boards a copy of that guide, but till some days ago I cudn't find it..
So it's not ME who's giving advice on what to wear, but people that made weekly raid, not once every 3 months and people that knows what to do..

But your overextended ego may not accept this because you're so expert....

You reccomend people that never signed up, if they don't want or can't come, why should we rely on them?

And btw, have you seen mine or Stage's work in the last 2 raids?
Guess not, but it doesn't take a genius to understand where to drop those PAs..

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Hardly. In human form, fully slotted shields and light form will give better resistance than any tank, incandescent strike hits harder than total focus, and photon seekers (providing they all hit the same target) hit harder than any blaster snipe. :P

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Uhmm....Afaik, the base damage for Total Focus and Incandescent Strike are the same, can't try myself tho, so I'll stick to what I read

Light form is the same as Unstoppable, only difference is that being Light Form from the secondary power set has lower base value: Invulnerability's Unstoppable base dmg res is 70% while Light Form base dmg res is around 53%.

Don't forget that Kheld human form dmg res cap is 70%, 75% for Dwarf Form iirc, so by simply putting a SO in Unstoppable you can have more resistance than a capped kheld..

But that's for just those 3 minutes, after wich both are left with 10% end and life and the kheld with less res than a fire tank and NO DEFENSE, while the Invuln has less overall res(but S/L almost at HIS cap) but WAY MORE defense..

A blaster snipe has a base recharge of 12 seconds, while photon seekers are around 5 minutes, so more like an additional Nova, more than a snipe...

Dunno the base value for Dawn Strike and Nova, so can't make that comparison

Heh, I know many people out there loves soloing, but that's just my point of view, imo there are games that are a LOT better to play solo(Diablo 2 and the saga of The Elder Scroll comes to mind)so if I can't get a team I log off and do something else..

But then again, anyone plays the game as he feels!
The lower lvls(1-15)I agree they are to be soloed cos they are so fast and teaming can be so c.rap that I don't bother soloing for that time, but then the game becomes more enjoyable if teamed because(as many may have notived xD ) I love to have some people to talk to while playing, that both makes me learn english better and makes me have some good times

He calls himself a badge hunter but has no Isolator badge if you look closely..

Anyway, grats Phil!

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CoV needs Epic Powers and At's and the ability to get to lv50 or it will plummet soon. Also, they should make PB and WS unlockable now at any level and bring in some new EPIC AT for COH

[/ QUOTE ]And maybe have every level go up as fast as the first 4 and have the option to turn god mode and quad damage on and off at will, as inherent lvl 1 power. °_°

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Tank/scrapper/blaster in one.

[/ QUOTE ]Yup, all in one but with 1/3 of the power of each....(May sound "[censored] Tank/non-damaging scrapper/low-damage blaster in one")

Having teamed with bigboy a lot and having myself a high level tank I've seen both Energy and SS at their best, and i would reccomend....both.

It's all up to your play style: Nrg has big single target damage(Bone Smasher, Energy Transfer and Total Focus)but a poo area of effect(Whirling Hands), while SS is a good mix of Area of Effect(Footstomp) and Single target(Knockout Blow and Haymaker)damage.

For the travel power it's yours the choice again, if you go for Super Jump avoid Jump Kick(long animation time)but pick Combat Jumping(nice defence bonus and res to immobilize) if you go for Flight avoid Hover due to his slow speed that will make you unable to reach mobs that are out of your taunt aura and pick Air Superiority because it's a good damage, fast attack with 100% knockup and -fly(Electric Outcasts anyone?)debuff.

Unless your Primary is Fire, then you're gonna need Acrobatics to have the resistance to Knockback and then you'll need Super Jump as travel power or Stone Armor that will need you to pick Teleport due to Rooted.

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PLUS if you need a Tanker only super group with loads of active people and players, just send a tell to J. Brute or Mr. Knockout when you're online!

Since i tend to avoid soloing because I think that paying to play a game like it's offline is a bit dumb, I'm talkin from the team view of my build because if I have to solo, I play something else..
Obviously if there's a dark or a rad nearby my survivability goes way up due to debuffs+heals, if a slightly decent empath is nearby I think I'm pretty unkillable(being one-shotted by psi AVs doesn'ìt count)with Fortitude or AB and with some good timed Heal Other, if a kin is in the team I'm even more happy, due to the huge heals from Transfusion and the uber buff from Fulcrum Shift.

But even without defenders or controllers in team I've noticed that even being the only tank I can still be pretty useful, because having no defenders or trollers means having more damage output, so I'll have to keep the aggro for less time, so in both case I can do my job.

That said, I'm happy to see that I finally reached a build that both works well(because i still get help request, despite how much tankers are disliked in these days)and with wich i have fun!

Indeed there's more than that, but being a tanker, that's what my build should be about, taking damage
For unstoppable I probably will have a spot at lvl 49 due to not having nothing else to pick and a slot to have his resistance cap by himself at lvl 50.
REl and REn, with 3 slots against an even lvl Behemot Overlords and an even level Nuon(the minions from Anti Matter AV) were decreasing the damage by 2-3 points(11% res is REALLY a low value)so I respecd em out to make place for Rage(wich I love)and Weave, wich helped a lot, far more than those 3 damage resisted..
For a PvP build they MAY be useful due to all those nrg meleers/blappers out there, but in PvE it's a bit a waste IMO.
But then again, I can't take decisions on how you'll have to build your toon, I'm just asking and explaining how my tanker is evolving and hoping it helps someone else

Up for this, Friday after 9pm then any other day after 12 am.

Edit: @Jiaozy, toon Jiaozy, lvl 50 Troller.

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and a good night sleep... shame I never get one..

[/ QUOTE ]And that's a proof you're a bot wich doesn' need sleep!

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grats mate but just shows you have way tomuch spare timeon your hands lol

[/ QUOTE ]I always tell him that....
Wish I'd have HALF his spare time......
But then again, he's just a bot playin the game cos he's always online, at any time.....

Oh, and grats!

Any place for me on the next mishes in the OUTDOOR_RUINED_02A.txt?

-Edited for accuracy-

After some testing and thanks to Dr. Rock Sustainable Damage thingy, I respecd into a buld like this:
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.2.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://home.comcast.net/~SherkSilver/index.html)
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Name: J. Brute Weave
Level: 48
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Invulnerability
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(1) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(3) EndRdx(11)
01) --> Jab==> Acc(1)
02) --> Resist Physical Damage==> DmgRes(2) DmgRes(5) DmgRes(5)
04) --> Dull Pain==> Heal(4) Heal(7) Heal(7) Rechg(11) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
06) --> Swift==> Run(6)
08) --> Unyielding==> DmgRes(8) DmgRes(9) DmgRes(9)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(10)
12) --> Taunt==> Taunt(12) Taunt(13) Rechg(13) Rechg(46)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(17) Heal(17)
18) --> Invincibility==> DefBuf(18) DefBuf(19) DefBuf(19) TH_Buf(23) EndRdx(43)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(22) Acc(23) Dmg(25) Dmg(25) Dmg(34) Rechg(36)
24) --> Boxing==> Acc(24)
26) --> Tough Hide==> DefBuf(26) DefBuf(27) DefBuf(27)
28) --> Tough==> DmgRes(28) DmgRes(29) DmgRes(29) EndRdx(33) EndRdx(33) EndRdx(34)
30) --> Weave==> DefBuf(30) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(31) EndRdx(31) EndRdx(33) EndRdx(34)
32) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(32) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Dmg(37) Rechg(37)
35) --> Rage==> Rechg(35) Rechg(40) Rechg(43)
38) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Char==> Acc(41) Acc(42) Hold(42) Hold(42) Hold(43)
44) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(44) Acc(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(46) Rechg(46)
47) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(47)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Dropping REn and REl as they add very little to my survivability but adding Weave, wich, stacked with CJ, Tough Hide and Invincibility gives a good defense and improves a lot the DPS I can survive..
Not quite at granite lvl, but pretty damn close to ... half of the Granite value...

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WHilst I find playing a tank thoroughly rubbish these days (and have almost retired, not deleted my lvl 30 ice/ice), one point:

If you are going for "pure" tank i.e. you are there to soak up as much aggro as possible, Ice secondary can simply not be beat. Why? Ice Slide. With 2 SO this can be perma, and multiplies your ability to take aggro significantly. I find it particularly good with CE from ice primary (slowed and falling over = not much time to attack you).

Ice secondary seems otherwise a bit poor in damage (although at least not as much cold resistance in enemies than smash/lethal). I would strongly advise ice if you want "pure" tank, but not if you want a scranker.

[/ QUOTE ]"Pure" tank an ice/ice? Try and say that to an AV.....

Your concept of "pure" tank looks like it has to be nothing more than a target, so what's best for just being a target than granite armor(-dmg, -recharge, -speed but loads of def and res) and rooted??
You can't move, can't make decent dmg(due to ED mainly, for the loss of perma-hasten and 5 slotted attack for dmg)but you can take hell loads of beatings..
Then you can go stone/ice if u want someone else to make the killings and you'll just take the aggro, being a "pure" tanker, as you say..

But then again, dunno how many people will be inviting you to teams, as you'll be a PA who needs healing and buffing?

Having an offensive melee doesn't make you a scranker anyway....
You can keep aggro on you far better with Fire Sword Circle + Combustion that with perma-Ice Patch..

The scranker build is those that leaves minimal slottings to defensive powers(and only those with good returns, i.e. no slotting for Resist Elements or Resist Nrg)to slot attacks...

Having attacks one slotted till you have all primary fully slotted, even with fire/nrg melee or SS doesn't make you a scranker, in no way..

Dammit...I remembered now that next week i have shifts and i'm at work till 8pm....Reallt can't make this TF...

Levelin up my lowbie for this atm so count me in with Artist of Shredding!

Make a tab in your chat window and add the channel Union Badgehunters, you'll then have a tab where all the badge hunters logged in there will speak of any kind of badge, from monsters to TF to AVs.