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The issue is one of ego (and quick read this because I am sure to get mod smacked) - the developers listend to people who they are friendly with. Those people are hardcore pve people. We pvp people have a history of not being nice to the developers. Call it a viscious circle they ignore us, we call them fat, they get mad ignore us more, we call them fatter and so on.
So they asked their most loyal friendly folk, "why don't you pvp?" The responses were simple "I go in a zone and get ganked, my mace tank is not good in pvp but super awesome in pve, there are only certain builds in pvp that are good and they dont mesh with my Cat persona..."
and so on.
So the devs took all thier suggestions and lumped them into a few themes
"I attack someone and some other stupid player heals them, it should be like PVE where I can kill NPCs without having to think or use teamwork..I mean LOL they are not AVs...."
Thus we were given Heal Decay
"I attack someone but they run away, it should be like PVE where they stand there and let me kill them"
Thus we were given Travel Supression
"I attack this dominator and he pops domination like three times, and does so much damange and holds me! I mean LOL they are not AVs"
Thus we were given DR....
So TPTB said "if we change all this will you guys PVP?" and the Super Friends all nodded yes!
and they made it so. But the Super Friends were not happy. "My powers don't work like they do in PVE!!!"
"But you said this was how you wanted it!!"
"We don't like it, make us more hats!"
The PVPers who saw all this in beta said "Uhhhhhhhhhh wow" and left.
The sad part is - they could turn off HD and TS easy in zones. It is already a tick in arena. DR is harder because off it makes resisitance insanse and everyone hard to defeat...but 75% of the complaints about pvp are TS and HD.
So why don't they? Ego...(no not that EGO....RAWR)..The devs refuse to admit they made a mistake. They just go on making more hats, and panther stealth, and bird faces..because in the end that is what the Super Friends really want. -
Quote:see thread on TP DRONING...bring oranges if you camp the base!Guide : How to be a good zone MM.
Step one get 1-2 other MM's take incandescence incarnate and TP foe. Preferably have a self heal + debuff patch.
Be a mobile base for ranged heroes doing most of the work and TP foe anyone who gets near enough into the MM patch.
Eventually camp the base and TP foe anyone who wanders out far enough.
That is pretty much all there is too it. Most can't target through the pets and thanks to TS and heal decay TP'ing someone out into superior numbers is pretty much a death sentence in the current zone enviroment. -
Quote:dusting off bubbler .... 6 slotted force bolt returns!Here is an updated build using the blaster ATO set allowing you to double proc Willdom/TK/Psi Dart with a little more KB protection in case anyone ever runs a bubbler, which they don't.
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Acc is on the low side at only 58% but for arena everyone pretty much ignores high defense melee toons if anyone brings one. Should still be capping out your 95% to hits against stuff that matters. -
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Quote:Oh that one is really easy - they revert all zones to no HD, no TS, remove all set bonuses and incarnate powers - make zone play pure standard ios and Hos, only with the exception of pvpios but make them bound to an account so they cannout be bought or sold so you can only win them by pvping.After 03 pages of back and forth with other PvPers, I just wanted to follow up by asking what the devs have told you at this point?
The dudes and dudettes here cant correct the issue you see as an issue or implement the changes youve suggested.
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I dig this concept:
"I highly recommend spending your time lobbying for a global pvp zone or a system of pvp that doesn't require billions of influence and hours of grinding and learning a completely different system to be viable. I'm assuming that the system itself has made infinitely more people quit than droners have. If we can get those changes, maybe we can actually cultivate a population that deserves attention." -
are you looking to roll one or have a 50 already? If you have not made one I hear fire/poison is a much better combo.
if you have a 50 already
the ranged dmg + the snipe
two grantable res sheilds - the res bubble
the sonic debuff and clarity power
ss/sj/acro
stealth/inivs/phase
manuv/tactics
dark patron for the soul storm and power boost
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You get all that from a single - to hit debuff proc in a power?
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I think the op was looking for an arena build, curious on the AA proc in boxing, I thought that it only works in as a chance to when used?
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yes they are both in 1v1 and teaming in zones. 2-3 mms teamed in a zone are beastly.
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I went in to rv healed and got TS on me and healed for progressivly less, seems broken to me.
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Quote:Why would you make the assumption that a droner has no pvp skill or ability. I get droned all the tme when I am on the side that is overpowering the other side. It's my own fault I am too close. I get droned once I will switch sides..if I am teamed with friends and there is a large number camping once side, we will switch sides. I know people who build droners and are pretty good at pvp. They build them for the exact reason to combat base camping. I never actually got why people lose thier shixit over getting droned or why they think it ruins pvp.no its not the drones i have a problem with, its the people with no pvp skill or ability using a teleport power to exploit the drone and have the drone instantly kill someone. i agree that the drone should be in pvp zones to ensure no spawn killing, but not to be there to have a player teleport a foe to it.
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your right my case was more zone based but I guess you don't see therms or posions in zone...obviously your the best person to give blaster advice so I will just refrain from posting.
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Quote:I didn't read that as a sub for HP. You said it yourself a blaster is easy to hp cap without trying hard so why worry about the 1606 cap with a heal that caps you ? If it is not up enough then why get it as a clutch heal? The ice sheild is def based and running that and tough to make up for the res is twice the end cost of running temp invuln.Quite frankly, its clear you shouldn't be giving advice. Hoarfrost is far from perma, and should be used as a heal not as a way to boost your max HP. As a blaster its very easy to get capped HP without trying too hard.
I'm not sure what your point is with PFF/phase in comparison to that Hiber/tk rubbish?
I think his point on Hiber was if you hibernate you are rooted in zone so if you plan on getting out of the impending triple as, you have to phase - you have your escape powers down. If you use PFF as an escape tactic you get high def and res and if you carry greens or take the incarnate heal don't have to waste phase or be rooted to spot waiting for as.
Ice vs power is always a blaster decison on play style, but I don't think the guys advice was bad. -
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why would you be having issues that looks awesome.
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Here is an idea - people who pay for the game...get hd/ts off.
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I am at 7 and don't really care about incarnates only bothered to get them once - what about the toons am I cut down to 2 or do I still get access to all my toons?
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I can't figure out what i lose access too...what changes?
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Quote:well everyone is NOW....brb getting ICEIncandescence Core Epiphany needs Nerfing... it has a 14.9 sec stun in PvP. Everyone is exploiting this power in PvP. Please fix it. You can check under description and PvP effects under Detailed info.
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You can always run low level tourneys in arena - level 4 can be pretty fun - or if you want create a level 20 tourney or what ever level you want. If you are talking zone pvp then Bloody Bay is really your only option but even then with the changes to what powers are availabe in sub rv pvp zones your are really talking about level 25 ish..
honestly though a level 50 is 6 hours and 5 dollars away if you strick pvp toon...grinding for the accos and incarnates sux but otherwise you can build a meat shield or stalker or fotm and still have fun. -
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