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Unless I wanna drop one of the two arcs I've poured hours of my heart and soul into. I can only write one more.

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Which is still 3 more arcs than you could've written and shared with the general playerbase a week ago.

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Thank you for the history lesson. Now for those of us still living in the present. City has changed. This has raised new issues.

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Man that is sweet wish my dad did something like that to me

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Do you need a hug?

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That's a really cool idea! I know my nephew would LOVE something like that.

How long until someone takes this a step further and puts a marriage proposal in the MA?

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Gotta find a chick first.

So um. Any hot chicks out there wanna get hitched online?

I saw one that was about saving the Burn Dinner or something. It had hellions in it. It was decent I suppose. It needd some story work but the gameplay was sound for a low level character.

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They kinda expect you to have some common sense mate. Not to be rude or anything but do you really think they intended for people to make easy kill missions to farm up a bunch of tickets with little effort?

They want people to be creative and not do the same things over and over. Which is the main reason why they put in merits for taskforces.

I just hope this isnt the end of DEV created zones and missions. I love mission architect. I Just finished making my first story arc and I'll probably start checking out other player created material.

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Should I start reporting for content all missions that fall into that category? I've seen several. Some of them Devs choice.

I'm not even sure this mission would even fit into that "easy kills" description despite their name. I have never heard anyone call a Fake Nemesis an easy kill either.

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Second, It was a farm mission, and he called it a farm mission in the title and description. They have explicitly said no farm missions allowed, which is why MA missions will not give you any non-MA badges. I do know of a couple of people that have created missions for farming MA badges. But they do not call them farm missions. And they are not planning on leaving them up when they get their badges.

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Prove it.

If it's out there then prove it. I have not seen a word about farming missions from the devs. Was this said in closed Beta? If so are we supposed to magically know what is and is not "appropriate" based on what a few people on these forums seem to be pulling out of their rears?

It doesn't really matter I suppose. Even if it is said buried out there somewhere; content that is getting banned needs to have the reasons for the ban stated. Especially in the complete absence of rules regarding use of the MA. Outside of the EULA of course. They do not stop Farms now. They do close exploits that make farming easier. a simple name change on this arc isn't going to change anything about how fast tickets or Xp will be gained. If that is the issue then that is what should be addressed. Other than that This banning makes no sense whatsoever. HE did not use any word that is vulgar or copyrighted. Nothing is accomplished by banning this arc. Nothing changed. What was the point? What was the exploit?

EDIT: And It only takes 5 people reporting it to get it removed? and people are worried about 1 star bandits.

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Try actually reading this post. Especially the 6th bullet point under Code of Conduct Reminders. Then there is this post from Positron at the bottom. Is that explicit enough for you? Remember, they consider farming at least semi-exploitative behavior, that is why they have made so many changes to limit or stop it over the years. (And I am not saying I agree or disagree with this, just that it is the way things are.)

Then there are the non-explicit things, like the fact that nothing in MA counts toward any non-MA badges, specifically so that people can't farm them. You really think that they would do something to prevent farming, then ignore any other farming behavior if they find it?

And you are right, it doesn't matter if it is out there explicitly. As Zombie Man and Uber Guy point out, they reserve the right to pull any content, for any reason.

As for needing 5 people to get an arc pulled, if there is nothing wrong with it, just put it back. If it gets 5 more reports, it gets looked at by a GM and if there is really nothing wrong with it, nothing happens. Well, to the arc. I would bet they will look at the people doing the content reporting to see if they are maybe harassing you. Since they do keep records of stuff like that. (Actually, I am not certain it is pulled automatically after the 5. It may have been looked at by a GM at that point too. But I did not receive anything from a GM in Beta until the second round of 5 reports.)

Janlee,

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I thought that MA was specifically designed so you "can't" farm?


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You can't farm non-MA badges with it, but there is no real way to prevent someone farming tickets or MA badges unless the GMs see the mission. The OP's problem was calling direct attention to his farm mission. As others have pointed out, all he needed to do was give it the veneer of an actual mission to avoid the ban, unless a lot of people reported it.

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Nothing about what he posted was an exploit. No where in either of those linked posts does it say farming is a bannable offence. He was not even notified of the reason WHY it was banned. Yeah they can ban for any reason they want. I expect to be told why. IT amkes no sense NOT to tell the people why otherwise they will just get confused and do it again. or quit.

This leads me to beleive it was just auto banned through the report tool. Yeah I can repost the arc. Do I also get all the ratings I had back when I repost? We basically had a bunch of people take it upon themselves to determine what words they thought were acceptable within the MARC system. They didn't like the word farm so pushed the content button. There is nothing explicit about the content. There was nothing violated in the EULA.

Hell one could make the argument that this is a training mission where a hero who wants to fight demons made a mission to fight demons in. It's not like the whole thing is a push over. Fake Nemesis aren't exacly easy things to kill. The whole thing is supposed to be a simulator for heroes. Made for people to have fun. If they have fun fighting demons then who are you to say they can't do that?

Yeah the devs reserve the right to ban whatever they want whenever they want on a whim. Positron's coffee gets cold he bans a mission. Castle wakes up on the wrong side of the bed Zombie mans account gets banned. completelty arbitrary. No reasons given. What gets me is if the cardinal sin here is he used the word Farm then why not add the word to the filter? If it is the MARC equivilent of [censored] babies why even allow us to use the word?

We don't even know for sure that it was banned because of the word farm. We don't know if it is because of the "easy kills" which given the description wouldn't be easy for everyone. All we know is a guy made a quick mission with custom demons and fake nemesis and the arc was banned because aprantly the guy wasn't having fun according to..who the hell knows. Random players. griefers. a dev? GM's? *shrug*

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Second, It was a farm mission, and he called it a farm mission in the title and description. They have explicitly said no farm missions allowed, which is why MA missions will not give you any non-MA badges. I do know of a couple of people that have created missions for farming MA badges. But they do not call them farm missions. And they are not planning on leaving them up when they get their badges.

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Prove it.

If it's out there then prove it. I have not seen a word about farming missions from the devs. Was this said in closed Beta? If so are we supposed to magically know what is and is not "appropriate" based on what a few people on these forums seem to be pulling out of their rears?

It doesn't really matter I suppose. Even if it is said buried out there somewhere; content that is getting banned needs to have the reasons for the ban stated. Especially in the complete absence of rules regarding use of the MA. Outside of the EULA of course. They do not stop Farms now. They do close exploits that make farming easier. a simple name change on this arc isn't going to change anything about how fast tickets or Xp will be gained. If that is the issue then that is what should be addressed. Other than that This banning makes no sense whatsoever. HE did not use any word that is vulgar or copyrighted. Nothing is accomplished by banning this arc. Nothing changed. What was the point? What was the exploit?

EDIT: And It only takes 5 people reporting it to get it removed? and people are worried about 1 star bandits.

Hell make it an arc. Based on what you just told me change the name to Demon world.

Have a short sentence saying Nemesis has a new plot unleashing demons on the world and you have to stop him. Same objectives. maybe rename the enemies to simply "Demon"

Suddenly you have the same exact farming mission. This is absurd. Either way this is NOT explicit content. There is no rule anywhere on these damn boards that says farming missions are not allowed. It is impossible to prevent farming. People are going to figure out how many tickets on average they get from certain arcs. Are those arcs going to be randomly banned without explanation as well just because people are "farming" them?

Which isn't against the rules.

This banning with no oversight is kinda chilling. People are worried about 1 star bandits. What if a group goes around and hits the report button x number of times? on an arc that has been getting 4 and 5 stars up to that point? Banned no oversight. Better luck in your repost?

Yeah this guys arc doesn't sound especially appealing to me. I don't like farming. some do. It's their thing. I find it hard to think that a alot of people entered his mission on the first day and reported this as explicit content. I also find it hard to believe a GM would manually close it down without sending and EMail (in game or out ofgame) Explaining why and possibly providing a warning about not doing X again.

I assume people reported it for being a farming mission. Weather or not that is against the rules I don't know.

What power sets did you give these "easy kills"

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Yup. Definitely need more information to see if it could have been content.

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I will "fine tooth comb" the dialog right now to make certain that i didnt step on any toes.

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Whenever you worry about making people mad, think of this. No matter what you do, there are over 6 billion people in the world; and you're probably doing something right now that would get at least one of them angry.

Besides, good writing is supposed to do that.

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For example. I know that right this very instant. My inhaling really ticks off Osama Bin Laden.

If 6 minutes impresses you then prepare to be amazed I guess. I'm reading forums now. I kee up on Topics I post in.


You still haven't given us enough information. Advertise away. If it has been banned we can't play it in any event.

I'm actually surprised Bloody isn't in the word filter then. Practically everything else is.

Since you aren't being forthcoming wiht what th arc was about it is impossible to speculate.

Unless of course you know why and that is why you aren't saying.

How do you rate something 0 stars?

Where is the map just outside of the Giza Casino? I know it's in the game somewhere as a friend of mine used it.

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There's the one map of Primeva, but I don't know where to find it in the MA. :\

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I believe it's unique > outdoor > Primeva.

It's a nice map.

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No. OUtdoor maps> Nerva ARchipeligo> I dont remeber which one but youll see it in the overview.

Heh. Sounds like alot of people think the entire Backstory behind this is Stupid and BS but everyone is willing to put up with it because a) It allows us to do some cool things and B) It is easy to ignore

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Architect Entertainment is a game within a game. I think this is an area where you have to just wave your hands and say "Whatever a villain's true motive might be, he is currently standing in a lobby of a virtual reality game company because he wants to engage in some entertaining roleplay. By definition, he is consenting to follow whatever motivations the virtual reality game requires of him."

In other words, don't sweat it.

Otherwise, take the newspaper missions approach: "You read that blah blah blah is happening. That sounds like something you'd like a piece of." and just roll on assuming that the player agrees with you.

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Right... The devs keep telling us that. I suppose its technically true but I don't believe for a minute the majority of the people building missions or playing these arcs believe that. These are their missions. This is their character. Having an author play a character for you wont go well.

Alternatively you could set up the contact with dialog as though he is your lackey or a Scientist you kidnapped. Through exposition you can imply that you had him working on something for you previous to the first mission and you are only now taking action to fulfill your plan.

One obstacle with this is you have to take some liberties with the players character. Any time you are taking words, thoughts, or actions out of the players hands you run the risk of annoying that player.

While your fixing the filter add Firestorm to it.

I have a character form live named 'Atsuchi Firestorm' (Take a guess as to his powers) Firestorm seems to have been blocked.

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*sigh* The super secret attitude from marketing is just getting very old. I have been hyped up for this for so many months it's now gotten to be old news. Plus we have nothing new on the horizon to look forward too.

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Fixt.

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Yeah and a good fix. Either way. It's very old.

*sigh* The super secret attitude from the devs is just getting very old. I have been hyped up for this for so many months it's now gotten to be old news. Plus we have nothing new on the horizon to look forward too.

Subjective:

I've been enjoying PvP more with the new changes. I'm not instantly blasting anyone out of the water nor they me. I've engaged in a few fun running aerial battles as a result.

That's a heck of a timeframe to keep up with. You are already planning on I15 in 5 months?