Illumino

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saying hover is a req for PLing is like saying elec blasters can compete with ARs. it's just friggin WRONG!

if you continue to stand by that statement you will lose any credibility you've managed to hold on to. you're just wrong. you need to admit it.

coming to this thread and flaming this guy's work with references that are WRONG is a waste of everyone's time. there are people trying to learn from others with more experience. people who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT and your crap just gets in the way.

*euVicious slaps whiteboi with a large trout*

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. . . lol . . . whats your highest character ? ? ? 25 - 30 ? ? ? come back when youve maxed a few of em out. . not one. . . a FEW. . . .
LoL you guys are wild!!!! I never said the guide was wrong. . . lol i said its not the best guide for powerleveling by any damn means, the speed build was trashed in EARLY beta because purples were too much of a risk with the speed build. . . can you get to level 40 quicker with the speed build opposed to using just "guessing the next power you pick" build. . shure u can. . . but can you get there as fast as a energy power build or a fire aoe build. . . in your dreams maybe. . . but not in reality. . . the INFO/Guide is CoO guys, its not info for players that have been playingthe game 6 months. . sorry, believe what u want, its just not. . chill out people damn!!! your loosing composure over a GUIDE!!! LoL Im not going to write a guide, ever, because i dont have the time, and you can find a guide for a simple fire aoe power build anywhere on theese forums. . . theyve been around since BETA piznimps....

you guys are gettin a little outa hand with this madness

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Unless you've hit level 50, you haven't maxed any of your characters out either.

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lol i was taking his guide seriously untill he said "you only get 4 power pool powers" . . then why do i have 6? I have Teleport friend, foe, self, hover, hurlde, health. . . where do people get this number 4?!?! you can have as many power pools as u want. . . if you dont want your primarys , then dont take them ,but telling people u only get 4 pools is wrong. . guide not worth reading past that line. LoL power leveling!!! HAHAHAHA without HOVER!! LoL!!! hahahahahahaha what an @$$

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I feel dumber for having read this. If you don't understand the game then please stay off this thread. He meant you can choose from 4 different pools of powers. This means you could take a total of 16 pool powers if you desired. This is information that can be found in the guide that came in the box. Let me take a wild guess here and guess that you didn't read the guide.

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stealth & cloak don't stack.

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So smoke grenade + cloaking device is what lets ya sneak in and drop that trip mine?


Thanks,
Captain Beyond

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Cloaking device + superspeed would also work

Do clocks display any of these "stun" delays in their attacks because if they have, I've never noticed them. Or is the stun phenomena a PC only side effect?

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RedHeat, forgot about that with the patch. Still, if you don't
have devices, you don't have targeting drone, you are in trouble.
Players have much better defenses than mobs. In PVP you basically
need a 6-slotted drone and probably tactics on top of that.
Otherwise, you are not going to be hitting consistently, and woe
if your opponents should include a forcefield defender. Or a
devices blaster that hits you with smoke grenade. It seems to me,
devices becomes almost mandatory in PVP, but we'll see.

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I definetly agree that players will be much harder to hit. I also see how more slots will likely go into accuracy and less into damage if this is the case. Controllers will have to heavily slot accuracy as well as non-device blasters.

That being said, a targeting drone isn't going to do you much good if you have sleeps and holds chained back to back with no chance of using it. A burn patch + acrobatics may allow you enough time to pop your aim and/or buildup and unload a heavy volley of attacks.

I also agree that PvP will center around superspeed. PvP templates will also likely include superspeed + combat jump/superjump.

Once again, its all speculation at this point, but its fun to discuss.

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Who knows how PVP will play out, it seems almost a certainty that many powers will get tweaked and outright nerfed before it goes live. As it stands now, any good controller will crush any blaster, except maybe Ice. There is just no way you can drop your opponent before he gets two holds off on you - I'm assuming that will be enough to overcome acrobatics' hold resistance. And any controller with sleep or disorient has a one-shot win because there is no way a blaster can get any defense other than inspirations. I can just see every blaster fighting for a couple minutes then running for cover back to buy a bunch more strength of will-type inspirations (do contacts even sell these? I never needed to buy them) because without them you are roadkill.


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There is another skill that fire manipulation blasters get that could help out immensely in PvP. I am of course speculating, but a combination of burn + acrobatics could be very valuable in PvP. I am including both in my current Fire/Fire build. Acrobatics heavily protects you against knockdown and knockback effects. As you know, it also provides some resistance against immobilization effects. As a Fire/Fire blaster you can add to your immobilization resistance by laying down a burn patch. We all know about burn via the exploit used by fire tankers to damage purple con mobs. However, the side effect of burn that intrigues me fore PvP is the fact that it will burn through most immobilization,hold, and sleep effects. If you add an inspiration on top of these two powers, I think controllers will have a difficult time.

The high resistance from knockback should help keep you in the patch. I don't think you'll need much to defeat a controller if you can get off 2 or 3 attacks before they have a chance to immobilize you in some way.

I just thought I would add this to the conversation since there is a defense fire manipulation blasters have other than acrobatics and inspirations to defend against hold effects.

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I didn't read any mention of flares. Should we skip it?

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Unless you are taking devices as your secondary, you won't be able to avoid flares. At level 4, you can't take a power pool and most of the secondary sets don't offer anything reasonable.