Ice_Ember

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The Large Rooms with the Tall Pillars gives a Majestic Hall Feel.

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So it looked like a library?

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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?

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It will only hit once unfortunately.

When it was first available, the chance would individually roll against everything it hit. That was awesome, but it was very OP.

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Oh okay, thx for the clarification. Would you still recommend slotting it in Frozen Aura?

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I would not. Set bonuses and other procs are more useful I think.

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Noted.

I still don't believe anything like this is necessary.

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Ice Melee... single target damage is abysmal. Raise the damage on Frozen Touch.

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Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blazing Aura -- (A)(21)(21)(23)(23)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- (A)(9)(15)(45)
Level 2: Healing Flames -- (A)(3)(3)(17)(19)(19)
Level 4: Frost -- (A)(5)(5)(11)(11)(17)
Level 6: Fire Shield -- (A)(7)(7)(9)(45)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- (A)(45)
Level 10: Hurdle -- (A)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- (A)(13)(13)(15)
Level 14: Super Jump -- (A)
Level 16: Health -- (A)(34)(34)(37)(40)(42)
Level 18: Boxing -- (A)
Level 20: Stamina -- (A)(42)(42)
Level 22: Ice Patch -- (A)
Level 24: Tough -- (A)(25)(25)(34)
Level 26: Weave -- (A)(27)(27)(33)
Level 28: Freezing Touch -- (A)(29)(29)(31)(31)(33)
Level 30: Burn -- (A)(31)(46)(48)(48)(50)
Level 32: Build Up -- (A)(33)(46)(46)
Level 35: Greater Ice Sword -- (A)(36)(36)(36)(37)(37)
Level 38: Frozen Aura -- (A)(39)(39)(39)(40)(40)
Level 41: Stone Prison -- (A)(48)(50)(50)
Level 44: Taunt -- (A)
Level 47: Quick Sand -- (A)
Level 49: Temperature Protection -- (A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- (A)(43)(43)(43)
Level 1: Sprint -- (A)
Level 2: Rest -- (A)
Level 1: Gauntlet



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This is the build I am going for. I have most of the IO's already in storage. The reason I am going for the S/L defense is because many ranged attacks also have a S/L component. Dont forget the change to defense bonuses have both typed and positional now.

My billions reference is if you want purples, which wont improve my build much, if at all.

My spines/vuln tanks very well. It can cap S/L when surrounded and is at 36% with one mob. It does not have tough or weave. It does have Aid Self. (numbers are real close, I have not played it in a few weeks.)

But, as with all things. Opinions vary. What works best for you may not work best for everyone. The opportunity cost is also a variable. I have the IO's ready for this build. I am saving up to get IO's for other builds for other toons. My spines/vuln is a better farmer than my fire/ice. My fire/ice is my badge toon. With the better build I may want to play it more, but the other tanks and scrappers are more fun and not a one trick pony.

YMMV

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The rest of the earning ethics through your belief in capitalism isn't relevant in the least to the discussion.

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You get what you pay for. It is perfectly relevant. If you want to spend billions you get better IO's.

And I think Kinetic Combats are better on a fire tank with Obliteration's.

I will respec mine to 41%defense after I get bored with running with SO's on the second build. It wont be the best, but it is what I can afford at the moment.

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my fire tank must be in a league of its own then *shrugs*

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with the amount of influence it would take to build it again, yes it is.

Mine will not be as good as yours because I do not have the time or influence. Dont misconstrue this hate because of a have/have not ordeal. I am very much a capitalist and believe you work for or towards what you have. You have earned your tank and its capabilities and I think it gives goals for those looking for better.

I have a 50 shield/ice which I like. I like it more than my 50 fire/ice. AAO really helps with the low damage of the single target attacks. If you solo, herd up a few spawns and saturate AAO and attack the boss. When it is nearly defeated, use BU + Frost + Shield Charge + Frozen Aura + Frost to wipe out the herd. The road to 50 can be painful though and I cant really talk about that. I PL'd mine to 50 to compare to the fire/ice. (Now that I am back I can start that up again.)

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Happy Birthday Ping. I know, I am a day late and a dollar short... but I have a good excuse.

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He was at the zoo watching Live Pingu love.

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It was Pingu Love... but not at the zoo.

Happy Birthday Ping. I know, I am a day late and a dollar short... but I have a good excuse.

Single target is still painfully low. Frost, when slotted for range (Dam/range HO's) is nice, but still not as good as a PBAoE, such as Combustion.

Frozen Aura is good now. GIS is still not good when compared to other heavy hitters in other sets.

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whatever bud, I play the AT EVERY day so I know what it does and doesnt do. you obviously dont know jack aobut /shield due to your remarks about fire/invul.

Im not looking for a one trick pony at all. Im just wanting the power set to be balanced like every other power set. Not weaker, not stronger.

Take your cry moar 'd00d sp3ak" and shove them where the sun dont shine. Im sure others would agree with me on the /shield set still needs work. Just because your retarded [censored] thinks they are fine doesnt mean it is.

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I am very critical of powersets and I think shield is very well balanced and very playable for a scrapper and tank.

Post a build.

(You are the only scrapper who has ever posted who does not like aggro.)

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Personally,i see Fire Armor as a armor set for tankers that will still outshine Elec/,mainly becuase it offers 2 major advances vs the 2 sets.

Fiery Embrace,more damage,and secondly,yeah,itll have some resistance diffrences,where fire will still be just under elec armor,but wheres the 3/4 HP heal for the Elec/ Tanker?

Fire/ wins,again.

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you can count HF as a bonus over fire, but FE at 90 sec recharge is not in my opinion.

The never ending endurance is nice. I have a dark/elec brute and siphon life helps quite a bit.

As always, I am happy for more power proliferation though. I will make an electric melee tank I think.

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So, one of you numbers people:

If Elec is ported to Tankers as is, what are we looking at in terms of resistance numbers?

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55% about to Sm, Le, Fire, Cold, Psi
90% to Energy
About 47% to Negative.

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Basically Fire Tanker levels.

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higher actually.

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Whew!

I love living in a "Rights on red are allowed" state.

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Lefts on Red too if it is on a one way st. And you can pass on the shoulder to go around people turning left. The speed limit is a recommendation and usually as long as you are around ten miles over or less you will not get a ticket.

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I just wanted to have a post in here before it gets locked.

I think I probably agree with Ping.

I'll read your posts in here later, I swear.

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qft

i would give FE the same treatment as BU. The more I have been playing my Fire/Ice tank with it, I now know why I was told, and advised to skip it. The added damage every 90 seconds is not worth it. I get more out of popping reds. The damage bonus from AAO is more consistent.

Thanks for the reply. And I dont blame you for not doing it, it is a bit of work. When I get back I will finish my testing with shield/ice vrs fire/ice.

I am really liking Shield defense. I cant wait to play the Shield fire and see how it is.

i have not had a chance to look at the charts yet...(I am still out of town)

Do you have a way to show the added damage from AAO with various numbers of spawns around?

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Hero side, if they have done the Positron TF, they will never be deleted.

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I laughed at this. But, I almost agree. I did delete a 36 elec/elec blaster because of the nerfs. It had done all the TF's to that point. I still have not recreated one. I would not delete a toon now who ahd done Posi, I really hate that TF.

fire/shield is the way to go. Shield can be soft capped easily. Fire melee is a beast.

I have a dislike for fire armor and how weak it is is. I have a 50 fire tank and I would hate to see how squishie fire armor is for scrappers. I do really like my fire/shield scrapper. It is great.

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...Which is why I (and as has been mentioned by many others) are a bit miffed that powerset prolif is on the back burner.

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QFT, and give me my ElectricityControl/DarkMiasma Controller already!!!

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That would be way cool to have. But I think Illusion/dark is the reason it will never happen. (Controllers getting Dark Miasma anyways.)

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&lt;QR&gt;

You aren't going to get banned for getting for going from 9-16 in one mission. The people that got characters deleted and accounts temp banned were based on certain criteria (one of the presumed "qualifications" was training from 1-50 within a short - probably 10-hour - period).

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I hope I dont get banned then. I have a level pacted toon which has not logged in yet since it was made. I just got the other half to 50.

I want a screen shot of an NPC saying you have been on patrol for 1 hour and be level 50.

Sell now and get the cash. You can buy em later, purchase with merits, or get with AE tickets with a lucky roll. I ahve sold several from AE rolls and from flipping.

Happy B Day Blue Man

Fire ball is the better of the two. Ice storm causes scatter.

I am leaning towards earth mastery and quicksand to keep foes in burn longer and have them not run as far. Stalagmites is much less damage than fire ball, but Quicksand and burn i think will make up for it.

Shield/Fire build if influence is not a problem....

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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(5), Aegis-ResDam(5), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(7)
Level 1: Scorch -- Empty(A)
Level 2: True Grit -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(7), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(9), RgnTis-Regen+(9), Heal-I(11), ResDam-I(11)
Level 4: Combustion -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Oblit-%Dam(17)
Level 6: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(34)
Level 12: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(19)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(17), Zephyr-ResKB(19)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(21), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mrcl-Heal(23), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mrcl-Rcvry+(25)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(27), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(27)
Level 22: Against All Odds -- Taunt-I(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(29), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Armgdn-Dam%(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 30: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(31), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Aegis-ResDam(33)
Level 32: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Def(34)
Level 35: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(39), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hectmb-Dam%(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Char -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(42), Lock-Rchg/Hold(42), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), Lock-%Hold(43)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Apoc-Dam%(46), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Ragnrk-Knock%(50), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(50)
Level 49: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
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