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Quote:In Forbin's "defense" he is like that with most peopleOriginally Posted by The Turnbow
I resent your attitude. I thought we were not supposed to attack one another on these boards. All my further comments are with-held in accordance with proper board etiquette.
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Quote:Hyper-Strike is from Chicago too.... HmmmOriginally Posted by Hyperstrike
No. There is no "general consensus" for the purpose of this thread.
There's a general consensus of those who agree with the purpose of the thread. But that's not the same thing.
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Quote:Even if this were the case (cough slippery slope cough) do you really think the Devs would submit to a more draconian purge? Is that your concern that we would go to a 90 day inactive account name purge? I would think the unwillingness of Paragon in the past would squash that concern.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
You forgot.
4) Those who STILL didn't get the exact name they want would STILL be griping about "All the good names are taken" and be pushing for a more draconian purge.
Not doing something because people would complain even more about doing something seems a bit of a fallacious argument..doncha think?
People complain about everything in this game from itrials, super packs, tier 9 rewards, costumes, alignment switching, kb, etc etc... Yet sometimes that complaining results in better things for the majority of the community....not doing something out of fear that it will not appease a few people seems silly when the nature of this playerbase seems to bi**h about everything
(Great example... look at this topic... it has not even been mentioned as a thought by the dev team but people already have their knickers in a twist over it....for fear it would devalue the ... "customer" who hasn't logged in for over three years lol) -
Quote:And your argument...is a slippery slope saying if we do 3 years then.. what's next 3 months??Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
I call bullschnitzel.
The basic argument is "They have it and aren't using it, free it up so others (implied *I*) can have it".
That's selfish as all hell.
As to "outrageous". Let's just agree that it's a personal value judgement...
I disagree. I think attempts have been made to make it "sound" reasonable.
Yet. See the "Give an inch, take a light-year" issue I talked about before.
Regardless of what's freed up, people are still going to gripe that "All the good names are taken". And then, they'll just push for a more draconian purge.
ALREADY certain individuals here have been talking, lovingly, of a 90 day purge policy favored by large orcs. Ostensibly to make their plan sound more reasonable. But, eventually, that's what's going to be demanded.
Slippery slope.
No. It "sounds" reasonable. There's a difference.
And yet the 90 days was given as an example of what we are not advocating The general consensus for the purpose of this thread has been... 3 years
pot...kettle.
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I would drop acro and put in vengeance - could slot another lotg +rech there... Plus acro is not needed since you already have kb protection and will reduce your end/sec which imo is quite high.
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Quote:Temp powers are not primary/secondary powers.Originally Posted by EvilGeko
You keep dodging the question. Team leaders already have this ability as to temp powers. What's the difference?
No one should have the ability to neuter your effectiveness on an entire team based off of your primary/secondary power choices. If as an individual you choose to Null the Gull someones SB speed increase etc.. that is your own individual choice that does not affect that person casting SB.
Making it so one cannot use Ghost Slaying Axe is quite different than disabling a power in someone's primary or secondary. -
Quote:Because as a team leader I can openly choose WHO I want on my team. When I create a team I look at the toon... and IF (not saying I would/do) IF I did not want someone with KB on my team that is my choice to not invite them....Originally Posted by EvilGeko
How is it materially different from just kicking someone with KB? Or setting the difficulty? Or removing temp powers in a TF?
BUT in this instance...let's say I had the KB to KD option as a team leader...It would not be right for me to invite NrgBlastGuy to my team and then tell him: Oh I am disabling your KB so we run better because KB is the evil and you are too stupid to use it.
One is me simply not choosing someone based off of their powers and the other is me actively telling someone..if you team with me you have to deal with me altering the effects your powers have.
Again... Not saying I have EVER declined someone based on their KB...unless of course I was looking for a support toon and they were on a blaster...then I simply chose not to invite them. If I am specifically looking for a defender for buff/debuff purposes....I don't want any blaster regardless of their power choices
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Quote:Pssst Lunette is a comic book characterOriginally Posted by Nethergoat
I've already explained how you misread my initial post.
Scroll up and read, I'm not typing it out again.
Last night I had made a character on Freedom to check out the new dark control set. Made the character female, came up with a costume I liked, a typical black/purplish number with a hood. Had in mind some sort of moon/lunar themed name and unsurprisingly my first few choices were taken.
Mulled it over a bit, and came up with Lunette, a word of French derivation meaning crescent or moon-shaped.
Bingo, not taken.
It's a great name, I'm very happy with it and I didn't have to jack it from another player.
First appearance in Gargoyles #8 - Gonna have to be more original than that
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Quote:I have no intent nor innate desire for the purge to happen...as I have said it does not affect me. FYI asking for an absolute truth on anything that COULD happen is in and of itself nothing short of sticking your tongue out and going Na Na Na... To ask for definitive proof on ANY assumption or suggestion is just plain stupid and impossible. If companies did operate that way...they would be pretty stagnate... Just like in life..if you live by the "What If" standard out of fear for every simple thing...you wouldn't progress much.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Please provide some quantifiable evidence that such a purge will have EXACTLY the effect you intend with no unintentional side-effects or problems.
Have a nice day.
The only proof one can be sure of is that if the name purge did happen...names would be freed up. The quality of said freed names is unknown by both sides to the argument. Then again quality in this respect is subjective as many people would claim my "super hero" names are not heroic at all.. I mean come on.. I Burnt The Toast... I Drunk Dialed My Ex... I'm Tricky Tricky (Run DMC ftw)....I Ride Stick... so you see I can claim with 100% certainty that if the purge were to happen that names would be freed up... Whether those names were ever used again by someone else...no one can be sure.
So yes a purge would have the exact effect I would think it would have. Heck the Devs could even say they were going to do a purge..not do it..and most people would not even know....
And to those "customers" who have not bothered to support this game for 3+ years... oh well. I would rather focus on my current customers and retain them then worry about the miniscule chance some Joe Blow MAY come back eventually and be upset he lost his AwesomeName for not paying/playing for years.... -
Quote:THAT was funnyOriginally Posted by Forbin_Project
Well that did happen to some people when Exalted went live. People who use their forum names as character names reported their names had been claimed and some name campers had said they could be paid to release the names they grabbed. Talk about people sensitive about their names hehehe.
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Quote:Since IF this were to happen...it would be the result of Paragon FREEing up the names... could you stop with the "stealing" comments already... I realize it is just your way of making those with an opposing viewpoint to be seen in a negative light, but it is actually a lie to call someone a thief if what they "took" was sanctioned and made available for free... just saying.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
When it doubt, cook up more imaginary motivations that just happen to perfectly dovetail with your urge to steal names!
Or, they stick with the status quo and he doesn't have to worry about it.
A much better solution, involving zero developer effort.
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Forum pvp over semantics and twisting of words is fun to watch.
I really like how it has devolved into stealing names... that made me giggle. Especially liking the backhanded attempt at name calling as well as labeling those who are for the purge as evil, stupid, greedy, etc...
Remember the days when people had civil conversations/discussions?? Me either...well at least not on these forums
For the record I am FOR the purge, not for any personal reasons as my names are unique and I have no problem getting them. To me it is more - stop catering to the non existent customer and start doing more for your paying customers. When you disgruntle current customers in the hopes of getting long lost customers to come back..maybe..that is a poor business decision.
As for the actual purge; like I said, I doubt many sought after names would be made available, but again it's not really about the names to me - it's more about doing for your current customers. -
Quote:The free player experience is akin to CoH pre Issue 9 imo - which means no IOs and no side switching. The free player is still getting a completely workable game; one in which most of us paid hundreds of dollars through sub fees over time to access up to Issue 9. I am sorry your financial situation does not allow you to be VIP, but I am glad Paragon has given you the ability to play for free to a certain degree...and who knows if/when your situation improves at least now you will know what to spend your money on to further your enjoyment of the game.Originally Posted by The Turnbow
Also, free players can't just hop to redside or blueside. Thus Patron Power Pools are not equal for blue and red. If I want a hero, (being a freebie) I can't use Patron Powers.
And before anyone starts bellyaching "Then go VIP", I reply, since the money tree is obviously growing in your yard, why don't you buy everyone a VIP membership? I'm doing good to have internet service so that I can pay bills online.
If I had to pay for CoH, I wouldn't play; though I have bought a few items from Paragon Market. There's a difference in buying what I want and paying for junk I'll never use. Going Rogue costs more than everything I've bought thus far. I haven't bought it simply because there are other things I want more that cost less.
But, as for the necessity of Alignment Missions... I've run more than a dozen of them. I get nothing from them but enjoyment and experience, but then, enjoyment and experience are why I play the game! IF I could switch from redside to blueside and vice versa, I would have no problem with running the missions necessary to do so. -
Quote:So redside has a bunch of drawbacks...and you wonder why people feel jaded they have to go redside to get the PPP?Originally Posted by DMystic
To everyone going on and on about how it's uneven/unfair that Villains don't have to do tips for PPP's, guess what there are other uneven/unfair things affecting Villains.
First off leveling is harder Villain side there are way more people playing Heroside. Less people means less teams. Less teams works out to less experience.
Secondly a significant portion of the Villain side content is mechanically harder than blueside across comparable levels.
Thirdly Blueside has more content options available across levels than redside. This is reflected in zones and Task forces (discounting non story hazard zones,co-op zones and Ouro TF/SF)
Fourth there is huge Reward merit imbalance between the two sides since blueside gets more reward merits for comparable amounts of time.
because of the player bases general bias towards Blue side, the Blue side already has significant advantages over the redside. So don't give me any of the unfair/uneven nonsense because it is extremely disingenuous to do so.
I have never liked redside. I was in CoV beta and didn't like it then...I tried it a few times since then and am still "bleh" about it. It actually has nothing to do with the content and more so with the environment.
I am actually not asking for PPP to be made available blueside...I am simply asking that Hero Defenders/Corruptors have an equal choice in that they are given a Def based shield in the APP ( I don't care if it's even Ice - which is horrendous looking imo). -
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Quote:It is apparent... haven't you seen all the people saying they are getting kicked from teams..not getting invites..because they have kb??Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
If Knockback is so horrid, then why are you here railing against it so hard? Why isn't it already apparent?
See, I can do that too!
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Quote:I like CoXOriginally Posted by DarkGob
Unrelated, sometimes that particular acronym for "City of X" really makes things uncomfortable.
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Quote:Which has never been my point.. my point was something needs to be made available that is a defense shield hero side..to make things equalOriginally Posted by BrandX
Im still unsigned about patrons being made available for heroes though.
(Ice is fine with me )
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrandxSo yes, /signed for Cold Epic for Defenders/Corrs!Which is what I said before your first reply to meQuote:Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
I don't even care if they just port Ice to Defenders...I just want a defense shield.
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I don't really have altitis really...I play a toon up to 20/30s..if I am not in love with it... I delete it and start a new one.
I have a total of 8 toons atm and 4 are 50 and completely incarnated. I used tio have altitis but the incarnate system cured me....
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I learned very quickly to plan ahead when it came to incarnates. When Alpha was introduced I screwed up on a toon and realized "oops no way to undo this at all."
While I am not supportive of your idea...I would support a breakdown feature that had some type of penalty/loss...like break down a tier 1 into X amount of threads (40 for example). -
Quote:The pain is this:Originally Posted by BrandX
But, they're not a pain. How iexactly are people seeing this as a pain? Go out grab tips like you would of done before, run them. I never found it any harder to get redside tips than blueside tips.
All my friends play hero side
My SG is hero side
I have no interest in redside
For two days I cannot team with friends because I am a villain.
For Four days I cannot access my base because I am seen as a villain
20 missions of trying to find strangers to play with on a side which I already hate playing on.
So I consider it boring basically....and I do not sign into the game to be bored and resentful of an unequal system.
(FYI this has nothing to do with RP...I do not RP at all - I just truly have no interest in redside content.) -
Quote:Uhmm you do see where I said HERO right???Originally Posted by BrandX
Actually. You're wrong.
Defenders are privy to a PPP with S/L Defense with a choice not to spend four days switching alignments. Also, you're wrong in that only Defenders are in that boat you think they're in.
Corruptors have the same APPs and PPPs.
Also, Defenders can always start redside.
In fact, unless you have some ancient Defender you still havent taken redside since it became an option, all your defenders have that option. Start redside, never have to switch alignment, and oh hey, look Villain Merits!
Yes you spend 4 days going over. What are you doing in that time? Gaining xp! Just like you would of been doing before. Or granding tips, like you would have been doing before o reaffirm your alignment.
As someone who has gone full circle multiple times, not once did I think "this is hard."
As for min/maxing, I think nothing is wrong with min/maxing a build, however, I don't think changes should be put into place just so you can do it easier.
I do not play Villain side - EXCEPT to get the PPP - plain and simple. I am actually working on a TA Defender atm...and taking it redside. I NEVER said it was hard....
It is inconvenient since the DEFENDER is the only HERO AT which can have APP/PPP & has NO choice of a Def shield UNLESS they go Redside.
If you are going to reply to me...please make sure you are replying to the whole gist of what I said and do not nitpick the parts that suit your argument...or put words in my mouth.
Now.. reread what I said.... ahhh there you go: HERO ..Defender... Defense shield..
What is the justification for denying defenders a Defense shield in the APP like trollers? Irregardless of alignment changes..get ready for this... Defenders are the ONLY AT which cannot get a Defense shield from their "natural" alignment. (discounting HEATS since they get none whatsoever).
I could give a rat's behind about switching to redside doing the patron arc..switching back.. I do it A LOT. I just think it's kind of crappy I have to since there is nothing offered in the way of defense shield for defenders hero side.
I didn't have to do this with my Hero Dom...because it already has a choice hero side: Ice.
I consider switching..tedious..not hard. Why?? I LOATHE redside. LOATHE. I never had a villain toon (outside of CoV beta) until Praetoria was introduced. Yet if I want that frickin Defense shield on a defender (Which I play a lot of)....here I go redside.. YAY!
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Quote:You mean how a dom can now have an ice shield (Def) instead of having to do the arcs..automatically?Originally Posted by BrandX
Notice how it keeps coming back to that bolded statement?
It's a suggetion being asked for, so people can min/max their options without having to take some time to do some tip missions.
Who cares if it is about min/maxing...I PREFER Defense over resistance on my squishy toons. I prefer to make my toon focus on defense...you act like min/maxing is a bad thing...we all min/max to a degree just by pure power selection. The FACT is Defenders are the only Hero AT (aside from HEATS who are not privy to APP or PPP) who do not have a choice of a defense shield...without spending AT LEAST 4 days going redside and coming back. I don't even care if they just port Ice to Defenders...I just want a defense shield. -
Seriously what's up with all the necro threads lately?