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Yeah. It was noted really early on.
And the devs were like "Huh? Oh. Well...yeah we guess!"

Ah crap.

Yeah. But you're one of those francophone *mumble*.
So it's not like your opinions matter, oui?

Heheheh.

Careful! Your wholly justified cynicism is showing through...

Do you want the NICE answer?
Or do you want the HONEST one?

argot - Slang

Thugs/Thugs with Burnout.

QUAD GANG WAR!

*splooge!*

Oh you poor schmuck! Whatever shall you do?

My philosophy is thus. Why use a stapler when a nail gun is so much more FUN!

Damn fine work there!

I know, right?

Yay for you. Your freedom of speech extends to criticism of the government in public venues.

The CoH forums aren't a public venue. It's a private resource made publicly available.

And it's utterly immaterial to this discussion.

As for your opinion. Opinions are like a rectum.

• Everyone's got one.
• And occasionally they're full of...something.

We're not attacking you. We're attacking your specious argument.

Telling you "you're wrong, and here's why" isn't verbal assault. It's a debate.

KTHXBAI! Can I have your stuff?

Put it this way, Paragon and NCSoft CANNOT shut down the game without giving players notice. It's a paid-for service. If they discontinue the service, they have to notify us, allow us transition time and offer us something refund/game time in another NCSoft product to compensate us for any lost pre-paid game time in CoH. Otherwise they can be taken to court and sued.

No. Everyone sees the inevitable. The game will go away. Eventually.
"Eventually" might be another 10 years.

It's called "rose colored glasses". Or maybe "nostalgia".

A year ago people were screaming about how dead the servers were and we should merge them.

TWO years ago, people were screaming about how dead the servers were and we should merge them.

THREE years ago, people were screaming about how dead the servers were and we should merge them.

I haven't hit my 4 year mark yet, but I'm willing to be four years ago people were griping about how dead the servers were and we should merge them.

Thus far, CoH's financial performance and the fact that it's STILL running (now with even MORE servers) puts the lie to your speculations.


Probably the same as it was last year.
And the year before.
And the year before that.

• That YOU can see.
• At a given time of day
• On a given day of the week
• In a section of the game known for low population.

Is this penetrating yet?


As I said, you're effectively mad that you're not seeing the numbers of someone on Freedom on a Friday evening, hero-side.

By that metric, neither is CoH.

They cut you off at 50. No Incarnate content.
They also curette a good chunk of functionality from the game, nearly to the point where CoH may as well be a solo game.

"dieing" huh?

No. CoH isn't dying.
Ask the devs.

Please don't use WoW as a median example in the industry. It's an overgrown mutant. Before it, games that brought in 100-200K subscribers and kept 2/3 of them were considered wildly successful.

That's like saying that "The Empire Strikes Back" was a crappy, underperforming SciFi movie because it didn't make as much as "Avatar".

Blizzard HAS gone to a hybrid model. They're raking in millions every year and have the cash to do pretty much anything with their current model.

NOBODY else in the industry can say that.

As has been noted. You're playing red side. Red side is and has been chronically underpopulated for years now. And it got worse once side switching started. Now, with the ability to start anything but an SoA blue-side, players need never play red if they don't wish to. And a lot of them don't wish to.

IF it starts to lose money. Call and let us know when that happens.

Is the game going to shut down SOME DAY?

Sure.

Do I personally care if CoH shuts down in 2293? Not bloody likely!

Is it going to shut down any time in the foreseeable future?

Not according to Paragon it isn't.

And with the presence of games like Evercrack (coming up on its THIRTEENTH YEAR) still going strong, it argues that CoH could be around a while yet. Hell, it could be around longer than some of its players.

Heck, I'd LOVE to see flyers or polybags in comic shops for CoH.

Not this tired old canard again.

Massively Multiplayer simply means you have multiple people in a shared environment.

It in no way stipulates teaming or even interaction. Nor does it specify regular population levels.

Please try a real argument.

Fact: CoV has pretty much always been less populous than the CoH side. Combined with the alignment system, and we now have a gutting of players from redside into blue.

We ARE thinking about the future of the game. Shutting down or merging servers is the fastest way I know of, short of simply turning the game off PERIOD, to make sure it doesn't have one.

Right now Paragon is pretty happy with subscribership and population levels on the servers. That's not to say that shutting a couple of them down wouldn't be more ECONOMICAL. But they're not at the point where it is even on their radar.

So why should they go tripping over a dollar to save a dime?

Nobody's offended. That's what you don't understand.
We're merely trying to educate yet another underinformed player as to why server closures and merging are not going to give you the results you think they will.

Wow. A cheap attempt at "the sky is falling" fear-mongering.
Every month some crappy MMO, somewhere, gets shut down.
Every month CoH keeps rolling along. Making money.
That's the big sticking point here. CoH is a nearly-8-year-old game that's STILL turning a profit.
Sure, it's not bringing in Planet of Conflictcraft levels of cash, but it's profitable.
Closing servers will cause a number of PAYING players to simply stop paying and leave. Hurting profits.
Closing servers will also send a message that the game is in trouble, causing others to leave. Hurting profits.
You don't mess with your bread and butter.


Or the fact that this alternate revenue model will allow them greater cash influx, which will allow them to produce more stuff for the game.

Ah. Full of ourselves are we?

Vets aren't against "changes". They're against pointless server closures. So please refrain from trying to inflate this argument into something it isn't.

And YOU feel they'll save CoH. Others disagree. And, amongst those others, are the devs.

What if I don't *WANT* to change my name? What if the name being changed by a collision is my main?

If they split up, how the hell do they "keep" the prestige? Prestige is assigned to the SG. Not the player. It's simply tracked by-player while they're in that SG. This is why you lose your prestige count when you drop and rejoin an SG.

You've missed the question he asked you. Some people have 30+ characters on some servers. What happens to them? And there are some people who have MULTIPLE servers full. How do THEY go about transferring?

And now your argument has mutated from "Kill this server" to "Kill a bunch of servers".

Sorry but **** NO!

Actually if you kill 3 servers you're 3x more likely to lose a significant portion of your subscriber base. The community has a modicum of faith in Paragon that their choice of toons and servers will not be usurped from them by server shutdowns.

If you (personally) dislike the population levels of the server you're on when you're on, nothing is stopping you from jumping ship to Freedom.

Well, the TankHQ is still up on the german server and I'm currently in control there.

Unfortunately, someone booted me from the one on Viglance. Hope they're enjoying the prestige I put in....