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Originally Posted by Demon Forge
I don't think that I was clear enough in my original post. My budget is $1500 I've got W7 already, so don't need to buy it.
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My main concern is would it be a better to get the 580, or the 570 and SSD. I realize that this is going to be based mostly on my personal preference of a few FPS in most games, or less waiting times for the games to start, just trying to get other peoples' opinions on the matter.
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Honestly, a 560 is almost overkill in this game.
Unless you're doing high-res multi-monitor gaming, your realistic performance delta between a 580 and a 570 is negligible.
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Over the reference gtx 570, the gtx 580 has~10% performance increase(according to the benchmarks I've read). While this isn't a big increase for 150 bucks, the highest iteration of video cards can usually perform quite well for 4-5 years, which is what I'm trying to accomplish.
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If you're expecting the 580 to stay acceptable for 5 years...well, I'll just say that for CoH, probably. For triple-A FPS games? Probably not. You'll be able to play, but not with maxed settings. On the other hand, the 10% performance difference between the 580 and the 570 won't mean anything at that point either.
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I'm kind of on the fence about the whole SSD issue. I know it will greatly improve boot times and the time from clicking the CoH shortcut to my ingame time, but other than that, is there any noticable improvement over a good sata 3 hard drive for in game loading?
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For map/zone loads? HELL YES there is. Pretty much any system I build in the future will have the OS/game drive(s) as SSD. Bulk storage is going to stay regular mechanical drives until the price-per-gig takes a BIG nosedive for SSDs.
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How would using the motherboards SRT capability compare to using an SSD for a straight boot/gaming drive?
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SRT will give you a decent performance gain over time. But with a sizeable SSD, you're just better off using it as your main drive.
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This feature seems like it would be very good for gamers who don't have the big budget required for the big SSD's, but I've not found any hard data about how much of a speed increase it actually is, and would probably shorten the lifetime of the SSD with a lot more writing than would normally be done with a boot drive.
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Actually no. SRT is an intelligent caching system. It doesn't thrash the disk system like that. Basically SRT simply monitors frequently loaded files/programs and caches a copy of them to the SSD and searches there first.
Simple read/writes like that aren't that bad. It's overwrite functions that tend to age SSDs. Even so, most large drives nowadays are good for at least 5 years.
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Would it possibly be more feasible to wait until the HDD prices stabilize again, and then upgrade to a ~120g SSD ? Paying almost 200 bucks for a 120g drive just irks me for some reason.
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Understood. Honestly, while it SEEMS like an extravagance, I honestly look at it as saved time over the life of the system. Little bits and pieces here and there, sure. Insignificant by themselves. But aggregated, it's a pretty nice chunk of time.
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No matter what I choose in the end, it's going to be a huge upgrade. I'm gaming on a dual core amd with a 9800gt, and the new system is going to be a beast. I'm really considering going over my budget by ~150 bucks, and getting the 120g SSD and a 580, just don't know how much my wife would like it :-)
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Justify it as a computer upgrade meant to last a very VERY long time. If you're actually serious about keeping the system with minimal upgrades for 5 years figure it this way.
$150/5 years = $30 a year = ~$2.50 a month = $0.08 a day.
Promise to lay off one cup of Starschmucks coffee a month and you've got the cash.
Or deny yourself one DVD/Blu-Ray disk this year.
Or catch a matinee instead of going to a movie in prime-time.
It always seems like a huge sum up-front. But look at the costs of upgrading to something else again in 2-3 years.
Also, before you pick up the EVGA card (whatever it is) check it to make sure it's eligible for the Step-Up program.
We're only a couple months out on nVidia's next-gen release. You stand a good chance of having that fall within your Step-Up period. Think about being able to upgrade almost immediately to the new top-shelf card for pocket change.