Hyperstrike

He can rep me all he wants. Rep is turned off. So...

Maybe sometime after you divorce yourself from the smug condescension.

As of right now, you're simply going to rip on whatever I say.

So feel free, as I'm thoroughly sick of this subject (again).

They've been making changes in existing systems though. Tweaking values. Not adding whole new levels of functionality.

Ever have a cut on the roof of your mouth? Yeah, it hurts, but you can't stop yourself from running your tongue over it...

No, and don't call me "Shirley"!

(Sorry, WAY too much Airplane! as a kid.)

There does come a point of exhaustion. When people don't listen to anything you say and keep yammering about wanting things their way. Regardless of whether or not it's a Good Idea.

Beyond this point, about all you can do is offer a pointed GTFO.

DO NOT TEMPT ME!

Okay. Time for an appropriate response.

*WHAP!*

She said "keep the game fresh", not "make viewers ill to the point of passing out.

Bad GG! Baaaaaad GG!

This comes under the heading of "well duh".

Maybe. The fact is that PVP really is the unwanted stepchild of CoX. Yes, there's a small, hardcore segment of players who want to do more with it. Unfortunately, reality intervenes quite quickly.

This is going to come under the heading of ROI. Again, the PVP crowd is relatively small. Such a change to PVP would be fairly to completely non-trivial.

So the devs could invest a bunch of time, money, and effort into segregating the sytems into a parallel setup

OR

They can concentrate on PVE and hit 99+% of the playerbase while continuing to play "Operation" with PVP.

What do you REALLY think is going to happen?


If I was being argumentative, you'd have put me on ignore by now. I'm simply mouthing unwelcome truth here.

Honestly, I really wish the situation for PVPers here was better. I do.

I just, truthfully, don't see any changes coming down the pipe to fix the situation and several of the purported "solutions" are equivalent blowing someone's face off with a nuke to get rid of a pimple on their chin.

In other words, I'd have to buy BOTH to get early access to powers AND the goodies.

Meh.

Up for another get together?

Yeah, I'm not quite sure what good a stealth power is if it doesn't allow you to move.

When the hell is it going to be used? When you're just standing around no place near an enemy?

Okay, now color me a bit confused.

If we want DP and DS early, we prepay the $30. But then if we want the goodies pack we'd have to plunk down another $40?

Or will the costumes and powers be available in a $10 add-on pack?

Or would it be possible to pre-purchase for the $40 Complete Collection?

I'm not hurting for money or anything, just the cheap bastich in me quails a bit at paying $40 for $10 worth of extras.

Now am I completely wrong here, missing something, *BLEEP!*ed in the head?

You've got that backwards. Hero 1's team of Magic users was the Omega team.

Statesman and everyone else was the Alpha team.

A-freaking-MEN!

Now, on a scale of 1-100 (1 being no chance, 100 being certainty), how likely do you see this as happening?

You REALLY want to see L53 purples floating around the game?

And again, the items EXIST. They're just not OBTAINABLE in the game.

Essentially destroys the purpose of the market. I don't think that's going to fly.

How do you sell them if anyone can go out and just plunk the cash down and build their toons the same way?

I agree though, there need to be more inf sinks in the game.

Yup. Like PVP, the only way to win is to just not play.

Wrong! There's always the possibility that my opponent is an idiot (or at least does something dumb or forgets something).

Can I DEPEND on it? And would I want to do it ALL the time?

No.

But it doesn't always assure that victory for him is GIVEN.

With the PVPers the argument really isn't, if their honest with themselves, about short market supply. It's about wanting to have the stuff readily available at low pricing without the need for any PVE interaction or marketing. "Because they don't enjoy that."

All? No. I acknowledged the problem with merits, but L50 earnings is just icing on top of the PL cake.

Merits were the first "blow". Now, instead of having a bunch of random "junk" recipes that made it to the market at various levels, people started getting merits, which can be vastly hoarded.

At this point, the market still had a relatively decent amount of these recipes available for all but the most desirable set pieces. However, the market started clearing out about this point. Recipes that were going for lower (than now) prices were bought up and became scarce. Newly generated stuff, if it wasn't consumed internally (by the person who it dropped to) went on the market for substantially increased prices.

By the end of i14 things were quite bad.

The advent of i15 and AE actually helped the situation. Because you weren't spec-buying recipes like you were with merits, you saw a lot more in the way of random recipes making it to the market during the height of the PL craze. So while you had tons of new L50's being created, they were actually feeding back into the market.

Now, post i16, we have greatly reduced AE use. Yet we've still got all these L50's out there who want nice stuff (not to mention the lower level toons who also want nice stuff).

The market is getting it's contents vacuumed out again. So, again, what was plentiful and cheap before is now getting scarce and more expensive.

The reason things weren't this expensive in i12 and early i13 is because there wasn't the level and type of demand there is now.



Because a modest increase in the drop rate won't have any real effect. Pricing might stabilize a bit, and maybe lower a little. But not substantially.

A crazy increase in the drop rate simply destroys the value of the IOs in the first place and turns the game into GearQuest.

And you're essentially asking the devs to fix a player-created problem (that scads of people PL'ed to 50 (multiple times) and now want "bling").

Granted you never asked me if I wanted to play NOW.