Hyperstrike

What exactly makes you different from anyone else who's got the choice of being stuck waiting or paying a higher price to get it sooner?

Your stuff, your rules. My stuff, my rules. I don't gripe about IO hoarding. I don't gripe about inf hoarding. I don't demand that someone put something they got on the market simply because they aren't using it now. Planning, as much as anything else, is part of the game.

Again, the only thing "making" you play this way is YOU. And, to a certain degree, your preferences, if implemented WOULD dictate how we play the game.

Depends on how much "more" is. If it's to the point where someone can just go in and buy any IO they want for inf, for a price comparable to the scaling of TO to DO to SO's, then yeah. It'll kill the game. As there's no incentive to progress anymore.

You're free to think it. Doesn't mean you're correct though.

Nor can you prove your hypothesis. You simply have a vague feeling and a vague definition of "more".

Yet you keep harping on it as below.

'nuff said.

As I said. You.

You are paying for ACCESS to the game. Nobody is guaranteeing you "fun". Since everyone's idea of "fun" is different.

If that's really too much to handle, another venue might make for a more enjoyable passtime for you. Like a single player console game.

Christ give me strength.

I'll reiterate it another way.

You can drive a Ferrari to a vacation destination.
You can drive a Yugo to a vacation destination.
Both get you there. Thus, is a Ferrari NECESSARY to get you there?
No.
Is a Ferrari more FUN to drive there? Maybe!
But I'm not arguing the last point because it's a value decision.
I never was.
The sooner you actually realize this, the better.

As I've said, I comprehend what you're talking about. It simply has zero bearing on the points I'm making. I'm talking mathematics and market theory. You're screaming "I WANT A PONY!"

Believe what you will.

You first.

Again, believe what you will. You always do anyhow.

Posi! They found us out! We need a black-bag team to get them off the forums NAO!

Keep telling yourself this. The fact is, you latched onto the one thing and essentially ignored the point being made. Whether I intended it or not is beside the point.

No, I understand it fine. So do you. But you're in such an all-fired hurry to be "right" in this argument that you're doing the equivalent of holding your hands over your ears and shouting at the top of your lungs.

Are you actually this obtuse IRL?

Ferrari: Gets you where you're going.
Yugo: Gets you where you're going.

Thus, is a Ferrari NECESSARY to get you where you're going? NO.
I'm not arguing nebulous (and subjective) "fun" factor.

Not as much fail as missing the point that I'm not talking about going to work. Maybe once that penetrates...

And I'm saying, once again, that I'm not responsible for you having fun. And insisting I modify my behavior in-game so that you CAN have fun is...well...STUPID is about the kindest term I can use.

Ah. Down to the tired old saw of "show me exactly where I wrote these exact words or you're wrong."

Sorry, not playing that game son.

Seriously, you need to stop being so literal when attempting (and failing) to win an argument with object lessons that may or may not be directly related to what is being talked about.

I'm sure you'd be a happier person if this were true.

Simple steps.

1. Copy the CoH install directory off the Vista install.
2. Install Windows 7
3. Download the CoH installer
4. Start up the CoH installer and stop it as soon as it begins downloading.
5. Copy the contents of the original Vista install of the game into that folder.

Done!

You keep losing sight of the fact that IO sets are luxuries.
You also keep losing sight of the fact that the market is just that. A market. Not a store.

Nobody's saying you can't IO a toon or a dozen toons.

But you need to realize that you are not and never were guaranteed to get the stuff you want in very short order at very low prices. The market just does not work that way.

Because I'm the one who generated the item you want to buy. Moreover, the market's built-in functionality dictates "highest bidder wins".

Sorry, $15 guarantees you access to the game. Nothing more.
You're, in effect, dictating HOW I play the game.
When I'm telling you to play the market, PVE a bit, and bid conservatively, those are SUGGESTIONS. If you don't follow them, you're essentially DOOMED to paying "you could buy a small country for that" prices.

No, because what you have then is essentially a STORE. You'd find the market flooded if it was jacked to the levels you're talking about.

I'm not saying a modest increase in drops wouldn't help the market, but it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference to the "gotta have it NAO" crowd.

Well then get to wagging Wolfie!

Ah. Now we move on to ad hominem. Fail!

Okay! Let's clear the air yet again. I never claimed to be an authority on playing any AT. To be honest, most of my playstyle outside of melee SUCKS. Doesn't mean I don't understand the game.

Again, you got so caught up in proving me "wrong" that you completely ignored the point of the argument and attacked something that was simply there to show how off-focus you are.

Maybe YOU are forced to drive into work. The fact stands. You can do an activity in a modest manner or in a blatantly "conspicuous consumption" manner.

Trying to threadjack the argument by fixating on a metaphor, rather than what the metaphor represents is...dumb.

In this game FUN is a SUBJECTIVE term.

I had fun tonight in PVP on my SoA Bane. Got the living **** kicked out of me. But still had fun. My build is NOT set up for PVP. In fact, it isn't even laid out with a full set of standard IOs. I have two partial sets in there. 4 Red Fortune and 3 Kinetic Crash. Everything else is either SO or common IO.

You're essentially arguing that YOU cannot have fun unless you have a pimped-out build. And you're ******** about the fact that you can't get it for cheap.

My sympathy for you is something less than a tau muon.[/quote[


And still bubbling over the fact that the argument was simply there to show you're not even willing to argue the real point. That you don't NEED this stuff. You simply want it.

Yeah. Sucks being caught don't it?

Actually you're the one with the comprehension difficulty. Nobody is talking about "driving into work" literally, it's an illustration of the situation.

Again, still utterly missing the point. Both do the job of getting you someplace equally as well. You're just attempting to argue that a luxury is necessary.

Good luck with that.

You're the one raging on me and trying to tell me you REQUIRE luxury items MERELY TO PLAY A GAME.

Okay, not QUITE sure where this verbal meandering is going. Feel free to come back and clarify. Are you stating that, because I (or someone else) have a build that's relatively "ridiculously" IO'ed (one that took me the best part of 6 months to put enhancements together for) that we're somehow hypocritical for telling people they can play perfectly fine on SOs?

What do you THINK I (or the other person) was playing on prior to their high level of IO'ing?

As for complaining about the game being "too easy", well, there's also the current issue of being unable to twink a task force's difficulty settings by level due to people using it to -1 tough task forces.

Please feel free to come back and actually express what you "meant" in a coherent manner.

Thanks, but I'd rather live in the lap of luxury all along.

My point exactly.

If you're going to place a bid, then sit there holding your breath until it fills...





Completely. Utterly.

And I love how you picked out the single instance of hyperbole and attacked it.

Almost like I put it there for you to do so. Like I was trying to prove that you're not focusing on the issue. Merely wanting your way and willing to attack anything getting in your way.

Almost like it was a plot...now where did I put my brass armor...

Again, do you need a Ferrari to simply drive into work? No.

When you can do something other than parrot "I want what I want and I want it now", then come talk to me about it. Until then, you're simply sound and fury...

LOL! Excellent!

Just don't try to corner the market like Randolph and Mortimer did.

*Note: All pictures hyperlinked (hehehe) to the full sized images. Warning! 1920x1080!*

How about this?



Or this?



Or this?

This is like saying that being stuffed into a running chipper-shredder is "pretty painful".

So you're saying someone who's been (repeatedly (and repeatedly repeatedly)) told that the best way to pick up stuff they want is to be patient and sensible with their marketing activities, but chooses to go "SKREW DAT! GIMMEH NAO!" (paying the resultant exorbitant fee), then complains about high pricing is NOT an imbecile?


You're not even trying are you?

Do you need a McLaren F1 to drive to work?

Is an SO'ed tank/blaster/etc squishy/weak compared to some multi-billion Inf build whose player has min-maxed the bejesus out of stat-wise?

OH HELL YEAH!

Doesn't mean it's unplayable or bad in any way shape or form.

Every tank doesn't have to be able to tank LR or Reichsman unassisted.
Every scrapper doesn't have to be able to complete the RWZ Challenge or solo AVs.
Every blaster doesn't have to be able to one-shot bosses.

Etc, etc.

I'm not arguing "It's not the best". If that's what you're trying to argue, good luck. Nobody in their right mind cares about that. We're talking about realistic, every-day play in the game.

Wrong! The fact that you can accumulate merits shows this for the lie it is.

Define "better" though.

Because spec-buying at a specific level with merits is impossible right?

Nope. Impatience is quite obvious.

You're missing the point. This sort of thinking is a vicious circle.

Someone who's patient and intelligent.

I have something in the neighborhood of 50 toons across several servers. I play most of them regularly. Some may go for long periods between plays, but they all get played.

It's the altitis that allows me to take the longer view.

Howsabout this?



Whaddya think? Too blunt?

And I say again...

Okay!

OKAY!

FINE!



Happy now?

Great big evil chuckle.

Ah. Posi's TRUE power source emerges! Like we were going to believe some weak explanation about antimatter...