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Quote:Just for gits and shiggles, I decided to hit CyberPowerPC for a look at their configurator.For $2K (assuming US $) you can build a tiny god of a gaming PC. Assuming you don't fret the money away on a $300 case weaved out of buckytubes laced with kevlar. And even then we are talking top shelf parts, multiple video cards, a stupidly high output power supply, an SSD boot drive , etc. just to get near $2K.
Anyways wait a month, by then the new Intel Sandy Bridge parts will be back, now that the chipset is fixed. Also Win 7 with SP1 DVDs should be available.
3.2Ghz i7 960, 6GB RAM, 120GB SSD, 2TB HD, default board, Radeon 6950, Blu-Ray optical and liquid cooling came out to about $1700 with OS. Such a system would tear CoH a new one.
That still leaves about $300 buffer space.
$88 more would get him a Radeon 6970
$144 more would take him to 12GB of RAM
Still, as you said, it's probably best to wait for the reworked Sandy Bridge chipsets to hit the market in a month or so.
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No. Not leaving. Will still be around annoying people. But my main box is down for a week or two while I wait for EVGA to StepUp my video card to a GTX 560 Ti.
My laptop can handle the game mostly (ThinkPad T61p). But raids is just outta there.
GAH! It's only been two freaking days so far and I'm going through spandex withdrawal!
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Quote:Going to get a new computer built for myself, any advice on what it should be?
- What do you plan to use the computer for?
- Any hardware preferences (or hardware vendors you want to stay the hell way from)?
- What's your ideal budget (real dollar amount not "as little as possible")?
- What's your maximum budget? Asking so that if a small bump in price can yield a huge increase in performance, we know the limits of what you're able to spend.
- Will you need anything besides the computer itself (new monitor, keyboard, mouse, additional software besides the OS, etc).
- Are you comfortable with building your own computer or would you prefer pre-bought?
- Any "MUST HAVE!" features?
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That's MY endurance and I WANT IT!
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Quote:Another run (hopefully without bumping into furniture) at the good old Dark Shadows franchise.Johnny Depp - Barnabas Collins
Bella Heathcoate - Victoria Winters
Eva Green - Angelique
Jackie Earle Haley - Willie Loomis
(Currently in talks to play)
Michelle Pfeiffer - Elizabeth Collins Stoddard
Helena Bonham Carter - Dr. Julia Hoffman
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news...s.php?id=18075
Hope this one fares better than the Ben Cross version from way the hell back. At least the Cross version showed that when you're not doing "one and done" the property works quite well. -
Quote:You've wandered from 'healer' to 'buffer/debuffer', you know that. I know you've defined a 'healer' as 'anyone who happens to have a heal' but seriously, in basically all cases, those are going to be buff/debuff sets with heals involved. Just call them what they are.
Also, using debuffs like that sort of ruins the who basis of the argument, since this is just between FF shields and heals, not FF shields against heals and every other debuff and buff the set has.
Also, just for laughs, go call all the sets you've defined as 'healers' that in the defender forum.
There's also the fact that debuffs are resisted to greater or lesser degrees.
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Quote:Wow "teams full of *Insert Primary/Secondary* steamroll stuff"!The thing is, the healers can do everything the FFer can do with their shields plus more. It's not at all difficult for a team of healers to have it so the AVs are doing no damage to the team. I've stood in the debuff clouds on a team of healers while the team took out all four AVs at the same time on the STF and took no damage doing it. In addition to that, they debuffed the AVs and buffed the teams damage.
FF just can't match that and doesn't contribute anything the team doesn't already have.
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Quote:I know this isn't quite along the lines of the conversation, but I have to point out something on this one.
Let's say, in this hypothetical situation, we have both a 'healer' and a FFer, and the team (full 8 person team in case this isn't a TF/SF) is still getting curbstomped by the last mission in the LRSF. Clearly, getting another healer is NOT an option. (seriously, who would stop a LRSF just to change a toon for a healer?)
Now, the only real options are inspiration runs. What do most people stock up on? Do you tell your team to grab a whole bunch of greens to heal back the damage? I certainly wouldn't listen. I stock up on purples, oranges, and maybe a row of greens for the lucky shots that get through.
Now, this doesn't really fall under the "Heals versus shields" argument, but it follows the same ideas.
According to magicj, everyone should just use a bunch of non-disposable, time/use-limited temps. to get through everything every time.
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Really? My all-tank ITF team didn't have a healer.
Sorry child. I'm not the one living in the dream world.Quote:You're living in a dream world if you think otherwise.
Again, do the math.
They don't NEED a healer either fool.Quote:And once the healer is there, they don't need the bubbles.
Just like you don't need a tank on the MSTF (I've "tanked" tower-buffed LR on a blaster, others have done it with Warshades, etc).Quote:Just as you don't need bubbles to get a MSTF.
Unfortunately the math doesn't support your opinion. But why let being wrong stop you?Quote:The spot is better taken by a healer. -
Quote:No. Buffers and debuffers do much more than heal.And I'll tell you _again_ this is not about heals. Healers do much much more than heal.
Anyone referring to the various support classes as "healers" quite simply does NOT have a grasp on the realities of this game.
Sound like anyone we know?
Again, it's not about "need" son. It's about the difference between "okay" and "great".Quote:Yes they can. How many teams need to be immune to damage, AV or otherwise. None.
How many teams need heals if they're immune to damage from everything in the mission/TF/etc?
NONE.
Actually they DO. The players with their defenses capped out can afford to concentrate on simply outputting maximum damage instead of managing their green bar.Quote:What they need to do is kill the AV. FF's little bubbles aren't going to help in that area. That's why teams don't look for FFer's to kill AVs.
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Quote:Well, the name calling the name calling didn't work, the facts didn't support your case, 99.99% of teams playing the game don't follow what you're saying, so lets try loyalty tests.
Lord knows you couldn't just admit you're wrong and move on. After all, two years later you're still going on about the Earth troller thing.
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Quote:We've already told you. Save for corner cases (like entire groups with extreme levels of defense), more than heals. Enough defense makes healing more or less superfluous.Again, the issue isn't "heals vs. bubbles". It's what, if anything, do little bubbles add to a team.
POOR teams are going to look for healers, not bubblers. POOR teams are going to look for healers instead of buffers and debuffsrs.Quote:And what's going to happen in actual gameplay is those teams are going to get healers to handle the problem, not FFers.
And yeah, they may slog through the content at a snail's pace, screaming about "hax" and all since their healer can't keep them alive.
Incorrect. They bring heals in addition to their buffs, debuffs and shields.Quote:Healers are Rads and Kins and Empaths and Darks. All of them bring debuffing or shields in addition to the heals.
Try actually LOOKING at the power sets you're talking about.
Again, this is what POOR teams do.Quote:This is what teams do.
That's nice. Too bad it isn't true.Quote:At every skill level of play, every level of difficulty, and every experience level.
You've already been talked to by people who DO. My bubbler is sitting on a Master of the Statesman's Task Force. How many AVs is that again?Quote:No one brings in FFers to beat AVs.
Yeah, while we were beating down Lord Recluse with triple-digit defense and ZERO damage taken, someone was screaming OMFG WE NEED AN EMP!Quote:Just the opposite is true. FFers are known to be a poor choice against AVs. Probably the worst choice in the game.
Or not.
Uh huh. PREVENTING more damage than any TWO healers could heal is irrelevant. Please learn about the game before blathering on son.Quote:Here, like in most cases, being at the defense cap is irrelevant. It's not what teams need.
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Quote:Wow a zerg rush on a portal.It's not just me. A few others tried and they failed.
There's no need to debate this. Just do it. Show me a video of an Earth troller completing the challenge. I'd be more than happy to add them to the list of trollers that can run it.
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Quote:Dude, please. You're on the verge of imploding into a singularity of dumb here.Then we agree. Getting your pets healed and buffed for free is a good thing and yet another example of why teams look for healers, not bubblers.
Requiring others to heal your pets is a bad thing.
Getting healed at random isn't a bad thing.
Not needing to be healed in the first place is several orders of magnitude better.
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Quote:A quite...*AHEM!* blunt review!... NC (or at least our devs) have to smile at Yahtzee's new "other MMO" review. Just for him pointing out, when talking about character creation, that "City of Heroes did it better."
(Now, yes, most of it is his standard trashing of the game, but having the COH reference in there - /thumbsup.)
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Quote:I know squat about Stone tanks, so I can't help there.
I just wanted to address this:
Man, the game has changed since I started playing. It was close to a year before my main even hit level 50, let alone hit 50 and got within a single Notice of the highest level of achievement available to us at this point.
When people start complaining about how it takes so long to level I just laugh and shake my head.
Yeah. I beat my main up to 50 in about 2-1/2 months. Back in i12. But I was playing every night for hours and hours at a time. I had friends and SG-mates laughing about how fast I'd leveled up. Mostly because I was doing it via street-sweeping (didn't get a real firm grasp of the missions structure at first).
Even so, with how fast levels come nowadays, sometimes, running solo, progress can still feel like it's measured in inches (especially villain-side nowadays) every now and again. -
Quote:Very rarely, which is a relevant point when comparing mitigation buffs to damage buffs, but completely irrelevant when comparing Heals to Resistance/Defence Buffs.
This takes us once again into the territory of "you can reach the point where you have enough mitigation", but where we need to remember that "mitigation" includes both Heals and Resistance/Defence Buffs.
Please explain to me then, exactly how you would propose to heal a tanker that gets one-shotted?
One-shotted implies they were hit immediately, which would leave no time to heal them.
FF grants Positional defence, which covers almost all forms of Psionic Damage attacks. Power Boosted, the Tanker would have been sitting at close to 40% from the Bubbles alone, and higher with Dispersion Bubble.
The Random Number Generator can be a fickle mistress, but if something is powerful enough to one-shot you, you stand a better chance of avoiding that big hit with FF buffs than you do by relying on a healer whose heals are still animating as you faceplant. Even versus Non-positional attacks, you'd be no worse off.
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Quote:No, he's not going to win this debate because it's not a debate. It's a troll from you on the rest of the people in the thread. You're simply standing there spouting BS and looking to see what kind of rise you get out of people.I'd advice it too. You're not going to win this debate because you're wrong.
Yup. Keep shoveling that BS. Maybe, some day, you might actually believe it. Of course, nobody else with two synapses to rub together will.Quote:Every single in-game example presented has supported my view, including those presented by folks who believe FFers should take the little bubbles.

