Hyperstrike

Essentially, what happened to Megatron in this one was, he was made The Starscream.

So if you're at a party with a bunch of people does that mean you're all on a team?

If you go to a 4th of July event, is everyone on the event on your team/league?

No.

Massively Multiplayer simply means that you have multiple people sharing the same environment. Nothing more.



Again, stop attempting to claim majority. You don't have the data to back that claim, and it looks stupid when you make it.

What about the non-teaming social component of the game?

Or are you now going to claim that people who inhabit chat servers/irc channels, etc, would all be off "playing in notepad"?

Incorrect. Teaming is one of several options, and may be required for CERTAIN content, but it's not the sole reason for playing an MMO.

But please. Let's hear more of your One True Way.

That's because it's wrong.

Massively Multiplayer says nothing about teaming.

Yes, there's interaction between players in a shared environment, but teaming is merely one of SEVERAL options for action within the game.

Yes, for certain things, like TFs, trials, and the like, teaming is more or less necessary (at least to start them).
But for the vast majority of the game content, teaming is OPTIONAL.

She's not. She's basically trolling you for reaction. This is typical Golden Girl behavior. Just ignore it.

Honestly I don't give a damn about "winning" an "Internet Tough Guy" argument. I just want options for how I obtain Incarnate rewards.

You're forgetting that the content (yes, including the trials) is ALREADY currently "easier for the scrapper".

Still, tossing you into a group of +4x8 isn't exactly what anyone, even a kitted out scrapper would call "easy".

Oh please...

This is merely feedback. Nobody's saying "do this OR ELSE".

Please stop trying to strawman.

While the dev team is good, they're NOT infallible (look at the debacle AE has become). This means that, on occasion, their data mining seems to be telling them something incorrect (or they're just misreading the data).

But it's a case of "ask often, get often" and "don't ask, don't get" and "squeaky wheel gets the oil".

This worked for the base builder crew when the devs announced, initially, that base builders would have to completely tear apart their bases to reclaim prestige when the new prestige discounts went into effect.

We know the devs aren't stupid. But they ARE human. And a game developer can have CRS just the same as anyone else. This is to keep the issue up and in the spotlight until a CONFIRMED fix is in the pipeline.

Probably the same thing people who don't like the trials are doing.

They didn't run them.

What about this? Base difficulty for an Incarnate mission is the equivalent of:

Solo = +0x4
2 Players = +0x6
3 Players = +1x8
4 Players = +1x10
5 Players = +2x12
6 Players = +2x14
7 Players = +3x16
8 Players = +3x18

Difficulty shifts in the + factor run from there (+4 on a an 8 player mission results in +7's (doable but VERY ****ING PAINFUL)). The multiplier stops working once the x value rises above x8 (to prevent enemy horde farming), but the team multiplier always supersedes the difficulty multiplier.

Also, possibly only when solo, the aggro cap is DOUBLED. No relying on the inaction of massed mobs standing around to keep you safe. Let's see 32 enemies taking a whack at someone. The law of averages can be a ***** even to someone defense-capped.

Okay, let me turn your level 1 loose on a +4x8 with bosses and AVs mission for a level 50 player.

Stop spouting nonsense or I shall mock you further!

So because you IMAGINE that "we'll look into it" is "we're doing it", everything is okay right?

"Signature story arc =|= Incarnate story arc"

LINKS PLEASE! As of right now I've seen ZERO word from the devs that non-trial Incarnates content is coming. If you have evidence to the contrary, point it out so that people can get back to doing something more productive.

No. No he hasn't. He's said there are people who like the trials. But that the likelihood is that a number of people are doing the trials ONLY because of the stuff gated behind them.

This is why one should READ posts instead of REACTING to them.

Silverado is the guy you want to look up.

Here's a thread about him soloing Lusca on a Fire/Rad.

Technically, a happy medium someplace in between. JUST LIKE EVERYPLACE ELSE IN THE GAME.

Really? If I want to take my Bubble Defender into a +4x8 situation? These powers are going to destroy the challenge?

My *** they are!

Sure, maybe for someone who's running a kitted-out "His level says "Chuck Norris" in it!" scrapper, all they're doing is making stuff that's already easy easier. But the second someone starts in with "my scrapper", any semblance of challenge goes completely out the window.

This is NOT "City of Scrappers".

Not to my knowledge. No.


Because they haven't said it?

And I say again, IT IS NOT ABOUT NEED.

It's about a goal to be worked towards.
On the one hand, you have a track where Goal A can be reached in a couple days by going ape-**** doing one thing over and over and over again.

On the same track, at a more sedate pace, it can be gotten in a couple weeks.

On the other track, you're now talking months and months and months and hundreds millions of inf spent out. Even if the person doing the track is running at difficulty levels comparable to the first track.

While I'm not saying it's *either or*, I'm simply saying the two advancement tracks are not equitable. They don't have to be *THE SAME*. They should be in roughly the same ballpark though.



*Facepalm*

What's being asked for IS incarnate-level content for soloists.

What part about that was in ANY way unclear?

Or are we going to keep going around and around with "You don't need it because there's no content. There's no content because you don't need it."???

No. Because that would involve thinking about someone besides themselves.

this!

It still doesn't address the fact that some people don't want to sit around with their thumbs up their *** for an hour, unable to actually DO anything else, while someone drags a trial together.

I spent nearly 30 minutes waiting on the last couple players in an Apex last night and THAT was painful and unfun. The Apex itself went swimmingly.

This is MY primary complaint about it.

My secondary is that I really don't want to run the trials over and over and over and over and over again, even switching between toons, just to see some progression. PRIMARILY because of the first issue.

THIS is why I'd prefer a viable solo path IN ADDITION to raid content. This way, when I don't feel like dealing with "Hurry up and wait", I can simply dive into a couple missions and progress a bit myself.

And I should take YOUR word over mathematics...why?

In which you're participating. Enthusiastically I might add.



Thank you for completely misunderstanding the actual point.

The point is not "don't want to grind". It is "Want a viable ALTERNATIVE to trials".

Maybe when you're ready to discuss this in a civil manner, we can pick this up again. Until then...

Which is completely besides the point.

Why level up?

Why slot sets?

Why get accolades?

Why get vet status and abilities?

BECAUSE IT IS THERE TO BE GOTTEN!

Trying to convince yourself that you *need* powers for the raids, but soloists don't is merely elitism.

*I* CAN. Because I'm actually playing on the servers during their populous "prime time".

There are others who cannot. Due to schedule, network, or system limitations.

There's also the fact that there are social calendars in the game as well. I host a Fire/Rad group every Monday of mixed levels.

Tanker Tuesdays are...well...Tuesdays. Again, mixed levels.

I have a regular spot on Ship raids Wednesday nights. Again, mixed levels.

You're suggesting that people simply...stop... participating in any community but the raid community?