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Yep. My Fire/Rads, whose bread-and-butter are Choking Cloud, Hot Feet, and mostly AoE attacks? I'd never even CONSIDER taking them in for something like this.
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Quote:Take a look here.From time to time,whenever I play the game,my screen freezes solid without warning,and I crash.Nothing move on my screen as all,and I have to restart my computer in order to fix it!I fix it just fine with my computer restart,but I know its just going to happen again.Any ideas,fellow players?Please help! : )

Grab the suggested information.
Start a help thread in the Technical Issues subforum
Paste the info obtained in there.
This'll give potential help-givers a leg up in making a preliminary diagnosis.
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Quote:Right, but my correction wasn't about general grammatical usage. But just about the usage of the mnemonic itself.i'm pretty sure she was referring to the rule specific to the spelling of Arcanaville, not the more general grammatical rule. The fun thing about most grammatical rules are the exceptions to those rules and the rules that apply to the exceptions.
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Quote:I'm reminded of russian "quota" nails.Oh, and last nail in the AMD Vs Intel debate.
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<Male Chauvinist Pig Response> Okay. What's the problem?
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Quote:Sorry but no.Here's a wacky idea, if someone sends a tell asking to join up with you, why not invite them? You were soloing and now you're teamed. Do you really care about their grammar skills or presumption? Do you feel that a random lowbie is an unconscionable burden upon your shoulders? If you're just taking it easy and soloing while you do something else you could say "I'm taking it easy and soloing while I do something else. Still want to join?" They might.
I almost always invite anyone who asks because if nothing else it's nice to have an audience for my badass spawn shredding.
I play during the day while at work. The owners, my bosses, don't mind. Just so long as I get my work done and my subordinates get theirs done.
This does mean, when someone asks me something I AFK. Even if I'm about to die in a mish. I don't even turn around and run to a safe spot. I just AFK and die. BFD, XP is easy. Finding jobs that pay like mine for the little I actually have to do? DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE! I have a better chance of winning the lottery, getting the Bughunter badge AND having Posi PERSONALLY auto-level a toon to 50 for me on Live, then fork over 10 billion Inf, 9999 Reward Merits, and a few thousand Alignment Merits all on the same day.
On the flip side, it's not fair for someone to be told they have to basically stand there with their thumb up their *** for an indeterminate length of time until I'm able to get back to the game (sometimes it can be more than an hour). And most of the time I'm running at a difficulty most SK'ed toons couldn't hope to finish without lots and LOTS of debt. -
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Quote:Agreed.It's a generally held belief that a Tanker's role on teams is to manage the aggro of enemies, keeping attention off of less durable teammates so that the team as a whole can move forward more efficiently.
Yep. It's the only thing I'm missing on my current defense-capped Inv/SS (took MB for the bonuses). I still have it on my S/L capped build, and I always loved the proc damage on Taunt.Quote:Personally, I'm fond of Perfect Zinger w/ Chance for Psi in Taunt, but Mocking Beratement is decent too.
Me: *BURP*POINT*
Enemy: Oh! What he's said has traumatized me so! OW my poor widdle head!
And I miss being able to put it in my aggro aura!
Enemy: His very PRESENCE is so offensive it's causing me physical pain!
My build does both quite well. Replacing Taunt with another attack wouldn't really add to my DPS much as I already have a good attack chain going.Quote:And even if you want to play an aggressive tanker, if you want a more aggressive build without taunt, you can use two builds, one for tanking (with taunt), and one for smashing (without taunt).
And on an Inv tank, you WANT to be pulling as many enemies in as you can handle.
Just set up monitors for your defense numbers and watch them doing this:
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LOVE the quote from the new marketing guy.
Quote:I cant worry about the fact that there isnt a bus big enough for me to throw Paul Christoforo under. The internet did that for me. I think they set him on fire too." -
Quote:Sorry, but I have my own years and years (and year and years...crap, now I feel OLD!) of experience. This experience pretty muchI my self have been building Comps. pro from way back in the 286 days. Listen to this man he knows what he is talking about.
I've built and owned more systems than I can conveniently count. Trust me, they're NOT "just the same". Yes, in some cases performance differences were noticeable only to the "I don't run games, I run BENCHMARKS" crowd. But there are differences in QOL between Intel and AMD platforms.Quote:I run an Intel system and a buddy runs an AMD system, pretty much same system just different makers and they as far as gaming (depending on how the game is optimized) are just that the same.
Moreover, for CoH, on a clock-for-clock basis, the performance difference between AMD and Intel is more than simply fractional percentage points.
If the person you're responding to is correct, why didn't you build an AMD rig?Quote:I personally build what I call 10 year computers. They cost me around $1500 and will last with minimal upgrade about 10 years before they need replaced due to hardware and game restraints. Just built mine last year with a intel i7, Gigabite MB, 6 gb of ram, TB HD, and Gigabite Nvidia 570, Thermaltake Case and Power Supply. I got it all other than the Video Card in Newegg combos, Video was from NE just not in a combo. I love my comp and have not even come close to not being able to run any game anything but full tilt.
Uh. No. Not everyone is going to want to deal with a liquid-cooled rig. Granted, there are sealed-loop systems out there. But they're only on par with some high end air coolers. If you want stupid levels of cooling, you would need to go with a custom liquid-cooled setup. And not everyone can (or wants to) hack that sort of thing. Especially with the periodic maintenance involved.Quote:When you look for a case go for a water system or if going to stick to fans get the big 100mm+ I have 4 on mine and omg they are quite and everything is so cool its stupid. Even over clocked like I am the heat was only a deg or 2 increase.
Without knowing what case you're talking about I can't comment on cooling properties. But cases, in most cases (pun intentional) are little more than cosmetic statements. Still, the difference between a $40 case and a $90-120 case can sometimes be startling. After having bled all over countless very cramped, hard-to-assemble cases, I've come to value ease of assembly.Quote:I just have to mention this my buddies system is the AMD equivalent and was cheaper. All but the case, HAHAH for some reason he decided that he wanted this $600 all Aluminum case. He got it on sale for $350 and all I can say is I am glad I went with my $50 Thermaltake, much lighter, and quieter. Yes his is cool in the fact that it actully has room for 2 computers (a reg and a mini) but OMG the price and sorry, but the thing is just ugly. Its all a fin design, like that is going to help the cooling lol.
Actually no. Listen to us. Simply don't take what we're saying at face value. We're merely part of the research process.Quote:But in the end don't listen to any of us, do the research and get the system that will most fit your needs. Do the work and you will be happier with what you have in the end. Good luck and happy building. -
Quote:This DIY combo might save ya some money: has pretty much the same components.(you would still need to buy the missing pieces obviously), but seems like you can save about 45 bucks buying this stuff together:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.755265
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Quote:You want the crap scared out of you? Try full-immersion cooling. And yeah, it's EXACTLY what it sounds like.No Liquid cooling.. dont trust it.. just the thought of liquid around electronics scares the crap outta me.
Actually, outside of the "DIY Plumbers Specials", there are a couple nice self-contained and sealed liquid options out there. They're quiet (compared to air) and only slightly warmer than some top-end air solutions.
But yeah, seeing some of these guys playing around with quarts of glycol, system flushing, etc, I can TOTALLY understand how you'd suction-cup your butt to a chair at the mention of liquid cooling. -
Quote:Honestly, with your budget, a separate soundcard isn't really advisable. And, unless you're a foofy audiophile, you aren't going to really be able to discern a major difference between a discrete card and the on-motherboard sound.5)
I would need everything. Case, motherboard, Ram, CPU, Optical Drives, Sound Card. ANd unfortunately a Hard Drive.
Also, in the recent past, I've dealt with a couple people with Xonar cards that've been getting flaky when used in conjunction with CoH.
Okay here's what I came up with. I've SLIGHTLY exceeded your $1000 budget cap. But bear with me.
First off, I'd say get the case first. It's got both an instant rebate AND a $10 Mail-In Rebate
Antec 900 Case $10 MIR
Antec 620W PSU
Asus P8Z68-V LE Motherboard
8GB (4GBx2) G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1600 Memory
Intel i5 2500K Boxed Processor (Comes with CPU Heatsink/Fan)
500GB Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive
Blu-Ray/DVD Reader/Burner
Basic Crappy Black Keyboard
Basic Mouse (Optical)
1 Copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
EVGA GTX 460 Video Card (BUY THIS LAST!)
All told: $1060. Maybe $1100 once the end-of-year instant rebates fold.
Also, if/when your tax return comes in, you may want to look at a small SSD to pair with your hard drive. Which is one of the reasons I'm recommending the z68 board. You can tack in a small SSD (32GB) on the z68 and have it work like a gigantic cache for your most-used programs on your system. Over the course of a week or two, the algorithm will track your usage and decide what to cache to the SSD. As it learns your usage, your system's storage response will speed up. Kind of like a manually constructed version of the Seagate Momentus XT hybrid drives (except your SSD cache will be MUCH larger).
One thing about the motherboard though, when you get it, do yourself a favor and grab the very latest BIOS update that Asus provides. It should save you lots of weird behavior and the accompanying headaches such behavior engenders.
If you decide that'd be a "Nice thing to have" and can afford it, I'd recommend this drive.
And again, the reason I recommend leaving the video card to last is BECAUSE the new nVidia cards are due out very soon here. You might catch a break and be able to step up to buying a 560 instead.
Honestly, I'd recommend the 460 over the 550 anyhow. The difference is only $15 and the 460 still outperforms the 550 by about 12-15%.
I know you wanted two opticals. I'd say wait on the second one until your budget can take it. I chose the Blu-Ray so you get maximum utility out of it. You can basically read and burn pretty much any optical media you want.
The 900 is a nice, fairly roomy case. It already comes with several fans. If you need more, simply stop by your local electronics store and pick up 120mm fans to supplement (you'll have a couple free mount points).
I picked the Western Digital drive because I've had naught but good luck with them. I can't say the same for Hitachi, Seagate and Maxtor (also Seagate now). They aren't THE fastest drives out there (well, unless you're looking to buy 10,000 RPM Velociraptors), but they're nice, steady, stabler performers.
Why the i5 2500K? i5 because it's your best bang for the buck. 2500 because it's right in the middle of a decent price range. And the K because the cost difference between the overclock-friendly K chip and the standard 2500 was $10. Why not leave yourself an option for a small performance boost at some point to extend the life of the product?
G.Skill Memory, the memory picked is supposed to be compatible with the board (did the research) and I've had very good luck with G.Skill in my system builds over the last few years.
However, if you want the absolute guarantee of compatibility, go Crucial.
Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600: $50
And on Newegg the same RAM is $40
I just went for a basic keyboard and mouse. If you want something fancy-schmancy you can pick something out in your budget.
Also, if you want hook up your video card to a large-screen TV that doesn't have a DVI port, you'll likely need an HDMI to mini-HDMI cable. Mini-HDMI goes into the back of the card, HDMI goes to the TV. Then change TV source to HDMI.
If your TV's native resolution is 720p, set your resolution to 1366x768. You may be able to run higher, but text will be fugly and unreadable for you.
If your TV's native resolution is 1080p, you should be able to do 1920x1080 with few problems. If text is fugly and unreadable, fall back to 1366x768.
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As a guy who's built and owned multiple Athlon-based systems, I should pull off a glove and slap you with it.
And I've been building systems for decades. And, honestly, I think you're either lucky beyond belief or simply selectively editing your memory.Quote:I've been building systems for years, and never had any kind of issues whatsoever running AMD processors.
And an AMD Quad-core is overkill for CoH as CoH only scales to two threads. At which point, we're looking at performance per-core used.Quote:I've used both, in my own systems and customers systems, and for general gaming and all around use, there is virtually no difference. If I was doing serious multitasking, or video decoding, or something that is processor intensive, I would recommend an intel processor, but for CoH, and any other MMO around, as well as 99% of other games out, anything more than a solid AMD quad core is just overkill.
Quite simply put, Intel's current offerings give enough of a performance boost for tasks relegated to the CPU to make it worthwhile to spend for the Intel platform. Anything under 10% is essentially trivial and within margin of error for any testbed.
Therefore it's quite handy to see that on a clock-for-clock basis, Intel's i5 offering delivers more than 10% greater CPU performance for a game like CoH.
Agreed.Quote:I recommended the 4 core over the 6 core purely because of clock speed, and the fact that unless you are doing some serious multitasking, you arent going to see a performance increase with a lower clock 6 core.
What are the actual loads on all the rails though?Quote:The power supply(which is a Corsair Builder Series) is 80+ certified, with the system components running at 422 watts (at max, which would very rarely happen) would be perfectly fine to run these components. If you were planning on adding a second video card or something down the road, get a bigger PSU.
It's really easy to say "X watts total" and still be over on one of your rails.
More power to you. But as a system builder, I wouldn't recommend ASRock to anyone. End of story.Quote:The motherboard is a cheap one, but I've used ASrock in several systems and have had no issues. Your personal experiences may vary. Mine have been good.
My concern isn't performance. It's reliability.Quote:You could spend a little extra money and get a WD caviar, or maybe a SeaGate Barracuda hard drive, but all in all it wont make much of a performance difference.
Turn up your graphics from low-res and bare ultra.Quote:We aren't talking about a high end gaming rig here, which is what you guys seem to be recommending. CoH is near the very bottom of the spectrum when it comes to graphics load.
I play at 1920x1080 with settings at Ultra and then customized above that. Why should the OP have to play at some crummy low resolution simply to enjoy higher graphics settings?Quote:I play CoH on an AMD 4450e system with a 9800gtx, and can run in ultra on 1440x900 with no issues whatsoever.
As noted, it's more than name-brand preference. The initial suggestions made in this thread would yield a system that maintains acceptable performance at higher settings. Moreover, long experience on my part denotes a stability advantage, as well as greater time between system inception and obsolescence.Quote:If you don't mind spending an extra 200 bucks on the system for what amounts to brand name preference, by all means, go with Intel.
In which case the cost is ammortized out longer. It means they don't need to make a 4-digit purchase for a complete system for that much longer.Quote:It is faster, and because it is, will probably last a year or 2 longer.
That's what was said when high levels of Ultra Mode started making people's video cards scream and beg for relief.Quote:But realize that the hardware is WAY ahead of the software right now, and this has been the issue for a couple of years.
Remember, this isn't a DX game we're talking about. This is an OpenGL game that stresses a system and it's graphics apparat quite differently than DirectX games do.
Technically nothing is "required" period. You can still play at fugly settings and postage-stamp resolutions on an nVidia GT 8600 with a P4 and 2GB of RAM.Quote:Having an I7 or i5 is great, but there really isnt much out there that requires the performance increase that they have over AMD processors.
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Just gonna throw the my responses inline on the quotes.
Quote:Here is a build, including monitor, that would run you under 1000 dollars, and thats including buying a copy of Windows 7 64.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103923
See my post above about "Why go Intel instead of AMD".
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147153
A fugly case IMNSHO, but to each his own.
It's a cramped case too. There's minimal clearance between the right-hand ATX base-plate screws and the drive cages. Some slightly longer cards will have problems getting mounted in a case like this.
I used to deal with cases like this for silent computing. Nowadays, I prefer roomier cases.
Also, if you're into any sort of cable management (so the inside of the system has nice air flow and doesn't look like a rats' nest), this is NOT the case for you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145533
While I still have an original 7200 rpm IBM "Death Star" hard drive in working order, I worry that you've recommended this drive's successor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009316
No comment on the monitor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157281
It's ASRock. It's cheap and that's about all it has going for it. Never mind that ASRock has a component failure rate that's positively atrocious. While they may have originally spun off from Asus, they retain none of Asus quality controls and it shows.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130749
No comment on the video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139027
PSU is too small for the video card and system. 600W minimum is really recommended. Will it run? Sure. How stable is the system going to be pushing the 12v rails like that?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231314
No comment on the RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986
The power supply in this build could be a bit bigger,but the 500w should have no issues whatsoever pushing everything, and Corsair is a very good brand. This system would be able to play any modern game at high settings with great fps, and CoH on ultra would be a breeze.
Corsair? Corsair what? Your link is to G.Skill memory.
Also, you neglected an optical drive.
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Quote:The intel i5 processors are great, but for just web surfing and gaming, and AMD chip would be much cheaper, and work just as well. The AMD 970(4 cire 3.5ghz) is only about 130 bucks, and while it wont benchmark as high as an i5, is easily overclockable and built for gaming, not to mention the AMD chips are much easier to mount the heatsink and fan on. I've ran both AMD and Intel, and for everyday tasks, you can't really tell a difference.
I'm going to say that I just disagree with everything stated here and leave it at that.
Okay, on second thought, no, I'm not going to leave it.
AMD is a "cheap" option. It's NOT the best option for a gaming rig though.
Moreover, BECAUSE AMD is turning out slower systems, they will "age" and obsolete faster than a marginally more expensive Intel machine.
When the difference between a machine that lasts 2 years and one that lasts 3-4 is $70 bucks or so, just spend the extra money.
Moreover, the Athlon chips you're recommending are essentially last-generation product that's being supplanted by AMD's newer (but still inferior, and now with even higher power consumption!) chips. As such, these items are slowly going to filter off the market.
As to AMD chips being easier to mount a fan on?
Uh. WHAT?
Exactly how hard is it to push down four retention tabs until you get a "click"? Yes, some retention systems on 3rd party coolers can be crazy (I'm a battle-scarred Zalman veteran myself). But the basic Intel 1155-1156-1366 retention mechanism is stupidly simple.
And yeah, for most every day tasks, you won't notice the difference between an AMD and Intel chip when web browsing or checking your e-mail.
But when running high-physics settings in CoH at high resolutions, yeah, you're DEFINITELY going to be able to tell the difference simply by where "acceptable" performance lies at a given level of options settings.
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Okay the Citadel was relatively pain-free.
Our only real problem was that we got stuck with a contact phone bug. It kept assigning the same mission to us over and over.
I know the Council are really REALLY good at refurbishing caves, but JEEZE!
We had to get a GM involved, our team leader had to re-log, and I wound up with the star. I then hoofed it to Citadel for every contact point and avoided using the phone.
This dropped us -1 to the TF and I was set for +1, which was doable, but a bit rough and kinda slow.
I finally cranked it down and we completed the TF with nary a problem. Except that Witty wasn't the first to die...
Witty! Try harder next time!
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Wondering if the laptop is one of those multi-GPU setups. Where it games (or is supposed to) on the Radeon, but does most of the desktop stuff on a low-power Intel chipset.
If so, there have been issues with systems like these, not doing proper switching, in the past.
The other possibility is a corrupted Windows setup. Honestly, the only way to know for sure is to nuke Windows from Orbit and reinstall (not restore).

