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Originally Posted by Umbral_NA

Well, the big question is where you start seeing "tangible benefits". You'll start seeing tangible survivability benefits starting at ~15% +def wherein the average mitigation is high enough that you'll actually take a couple more hits (and thereby a few more seconds) to take out.

Either way, is your question pretty much whether */SR has anything going for it now that, thanks to set bonuses, people are packing in quantities of defense that would make an */SR proud? Sure, it's got enough defense debuff resistance to laugh at any defense debuffs that show up. It's also got a lot more +def as a foundation to build off of so you can build for other stuff more easily. It's also got +rech. */SR isn't really the one trick pony that a lot of people have come to expect it to be. It's got other stuff going for it and, even more importantly, it doesn't have to hurt itself in every other department to make itself softcapped.



I'm still curious as to why you switched terms in your questions. It's painfully ambiguous, especially when it wasn't exactly clear what you were asking in the first place. In general, when you're asking a question that is based upon semantic terminology and the difference between the two (*/SR defenses v. */SR-like defenses), it's best to simply go with the least ambigious terms, especially in the questions themselves.

There's also the problem that the terms "*/SR defenses" and "*/SR-like defenses" are painfully ambiguous. It could refer to just plain defense (ignoring the debuff resistances and scaling resistances) and normally would when you say "defenses" because we're talking about defense. It could also (as you tried to use it) apply to all of the damage mitigation and debuff resistance that an */SR brings to the fore.

There may not be any stupid questions, but there are questions that are just worded so poorly it's almost impossible to comprehend the original intent.

Originally Posted by BillZBubba

That should tell you what you want to know right there.

Obviously your current build does the job. I've been concerned a lot lately with the fact that the devs have created a situation with defense that is flatly being abused by all of us.

We've got Fire/ tanks running around softcapped on defense to X for satan's sake. Makes the concept of super reflexes laughable because now EVERYONE can get super reflexes to at least some of the incoming attacks.

You've stated you're not into crunching the numbers like some of us. There's nothing wrong with that. 45% defense means that in the absence of defense debuffs and tohit buffs, you can't get a better chance to be missed than you've got. That's it. Nothing more.

If whatever else you have in your build is good enough to keep you up and swinging beyond that, you're gold.

"Good enough" is whatever you decide it will be.

My main character will NEVER be "good enough" for me when I sit back and run comparisons. He's never going to be able to push out the damage of a dark/shield saturating AAO and SD. He's never going to have the survivability of /regen that's cranked up to the softcap on defense.

But is he good enough for almost everything I throw at him? Hell yea. He's claws/sr. He's damned good at everything.

Originally Posted by Umbral_NA

So what exactly are you asking? "/SR numbers" and "/SR like numbers" can mean a lot of different things. And by Tri-Cord, do you mean Aid Self (and if you did, why didn't you just say "Aid Self" like you did in the last line)?

Originally Posted by Blpup

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