Hammerfall

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I'd definately like to join, but my searches for a team have not bore fruit unfortunately. So if anyone needs a half decent scrapper for there team PM me.

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Well since subbing is allowed I heartily recommend staying around for the odd chance to fight should some team lose a member temporarily (which is about 99.9% propable)

I havent confirmed my team either.

Hey Im not trying to sound hopeful, quite the opposite.
Im scratching my head to understand why the whole tp objects-issue is here. What exactly harmful is there to tp NPC turrets? Even if you can tp the RV pillbox turrets it still doesnt sound like worth the devs attention. Theres lot more important stuff to fix.

Besides like the history showed, Blasters really didnt need toggledropping that much. (I still can't figure out why they gave the biggest drop chance to AT that benefits from it the least, the doms)

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Splitting targeters: If you have 2 targeters going in 2 directions it may make the Tanks job a little hard as he needs to move to be opposite alot.


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I think that 1 targeter moving round will pass a stationary Hami tank at some point anyway. The only way this could be avoided if the targeter started next to the Hami tank and then moved around Hami to end up on the other side of the Hami tank. This would risk getting the AoE from Hami right at the start of the raid.

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War mate, its my job to stay opposite the mitoclearing grp on the other side of hamidon at all times. (So I dont have to go afk for boredom lol). This job is considerably easier if theres just one mito-clearing grp. If you guys insist on a second one (there were two last time, whether intentionally or unintentionally) then they should stay close each other while attacking separate Mitos imo. Possibly one attacking higher Mitos and one attacking those mitos closer to the ground.

Last time the tank team started from exact opposite side of hamidon to the 'coward hill'. I recommed you start targeting Mitos closest to coward hill like you said. I can see you well enough I think to stay on the other side.

Also, from personal experience, fly close to the mito(follow) you are targeting so the clearers can understand better what Mito is being targeted.

Before moving on to next one, make sure Mito didnt split by using target_closest_enemy.

Please dont target Hami nucleus lol.

EDIT: I sorta agree with others, extra calls may not be as helpful as we'd think. Especially its better to reserve request channel for leader only (I try to stay away from it myself this time lol).

Good idea on the cossie and clockwise direction though. (I proposed it myself until realizing you had proposed it already )

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Domination is great in PvP - I think Domination gives you higher protection against status effects than a lot of Brutes' and Stalkers' Protection.

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Unfortunately status protection doesnt help you much when you are being two-shotted by a blaster.

Wham! Bam! Back to square one! Domination resets.
Other hero ATs can do this too, with more hits but they have mez protection to compensate. Scrappers for example.

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Dominators rely on active defense, meaning that they have to distinguish each target seperately, Blasters have this too.


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Except good Blasters will have to fire a lot LESS attacks to do their trick. Above I said blaster can two-shot a dominator without breaking a sweat. Care to think how many holds and attacks the dominator needs? Against scrapper then? Tank?

I have said before that the problem is not the holding capability of dominators, thats at least on par with trollers or even better with domination. Problem is that dominator holding ability isnt good enough to justify their incredible squishiness. Since they have no staying power they cant stack holds enough to make an effect. Trollers get useful secondaries to slow enemy down, self heals or something. Doms get zip. Don't mention their attacks. They need HP boost at least, preferably some other form of survivability too. Damage buff wouldnt be bad. Even with domination running their damage output is pretty pants.

Theres just too much mez protection in PVP to make dominators a threat the way they are. And if the holds are made even better, that will just make people cry 'cheat!'. Better to improve their survivability so that there is a fight going on when they try to overcome enemys mez-prot. Though I don't really have ideas how, except a flat-out HP buff of 50% would be a start.

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At least there's a tiny glimmer of hope.

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The way he phrases it sounds like they will let it go live and after like 1 year they MAY change it back for devices..

I think 3 recharge, 3 def would make more sense.

Naturally all primaries are playable and of course go with concept if you have one. The sets are quite good enough. I said DM is overall bit weak because it lacks one high damage attack that other sets have in them (DM has dark consumption instead). From game mechanics point of view, broadsword and katana propably synch best with SR because they have parry and divine avalanche. Aid self is indeed a nice addition to SR scrappers.

Lmao Xanthus

Hmm after asking, white magus has problems participating on weekends, and monday is the Hami raid.. I havent found serophina yet.

The domination buff is impressive as far as domination and PVE is concerned. However I dont think it does diddly doo to Dominators in PVP.. And PVP buff was what I was hoping for.

From what Ive been hearing, I dont think it changes the AV fights either.

All scrapper primaries are nice, but personally I think dark melee is bit weak.

For matrix style, naturally Martial arts. When you get eagles claw, its very matrix like

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Questions for our EU friends over there (You can reply in your thread if you don't have access over here):

So, I was told a while ago that "bloody" was pretty much a curse word over there. Does that mean it's filtered on your boards?

Also, who won that PvP Summer thing you guys had? What all did you get from it?


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Bloody doesnt appear to be too strong a curse nor filtered, but im not British.

S4 was a pentad team tournament with multiple weight classes. Winners got unique forum titles if Im not mistaken (look at knight stalkers title above). Who won I can't remember it was ages ago.

I will try to get my mates to participate. But since I havent talked to them yet I cant say for sure. Most propably my team will be Captain Skyfire(blaster), White Magus(defender), Kandy Kane(corrupter).

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Try a good spines/regen versus a good invuln/anything and allow the match to go to maximum time limit (thats way beyond 10 minutes), then come back to me and say its impossible for a scrapper to beat a tank, i doubt anyone could and no i wouldnt know from experience its just maths:P.

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It is pretty stupid starting arguments like this on a thread that's topic is about something else entirely. I know what X-treme is about and I know he refers to 'good' pvp tank. And I know he is right. Scrappers dont got a chance in hell to get a kill. Let us not talk about situation where the tank player is afk or braindead.

Imag once challenged me (Captain Skyfire en/en/cold blaster at that time iirc, and my mate white magus empathy/energy defender) to a duel (us two against him alone) at lvl 50 to prove that good invul tank is unkillable. We fought for 10 minutes and it was 0-0. It is about movement as is most of PVP. Sure you can 'hold your ground' and get killed by everybody and their dog but thats not what PVP is about.

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I've noticed that if a power isnt recharged when hasten drops, the power's icon shrinks, as if its recharge time gets pushed back to what it is without hasten. Something to consider, although I'm not sure if this is a bug, intended, or if it even affects the recharge in the way it suggests.
And yep, this will be handy on the all dom team :O)
I just hope it doesnt ruin the pinball feel of the AT.

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That shrinking or growing icons thing is normal and happens with all powers when the +recharge or -recharge effects drop from you.

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EDIT: OMG that last sentance almost sounded positive, i obvioulsy need coffee

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From my experience in PVP, dominator total focus is a tickle under the chin compared to Blaster total focus.. Blasters are allowed to wait for it.

I have lvl 24 mind/en dom and im MOST disappointed at bonesmasher, power blast (which I respecced away since it does no damage) and not to mention force bolt-lvl damage of power bolt(which I must take). I mean my frigging empath kills enemies faster!

Still trying to think of reasons of bothering to play to
total focus lvls. Even if its the possibly the only good attack in the entire set.

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The problem with dominators is not damage, exactly. A full assault set does good damage, easily comparable to corruptor blast set and in fact better in many cases.

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Dominators do damage??

Yes, the rooms have been here for some time and I think they rock.

To carry on the original convo, yes, Doms need a boost but their holds dont need a boost. Their all other aspects need a boost.

ps. corruptor damage on dominators secondaries wouldnt propably be too powerful. I have yet to be particularly impressed by corruptor damage.

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I'll be there. Oh yes I will. Sonic/Sonic defender OK for you? :P

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You guys gonna do the next one then?

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If you think double controller is good you you're just plane bad. I could fight double controller without a singel bf on my scrapper. And i wouldn't need to many bfs on my blaster either. Plight im up for a one on one on test whenever you like, just dont blame it on lag like you did last time when i beat you. Jum i'd like to fight you again as well if you dont mind.

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Try responding to the correct persons post or Ill get defensive...

X, im sure we all appreciate what you have done for PVP, right now most of us are just propably annoyed with the state of events, people moving to US servers etc.

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and what exactly have u done to try to improve things?!

i'm hosting a tournament this sunday that has had 12 entrants, 6 of which are PvP regulars, that leaves 6 people i dont regularly arena with. if people dont wanna enter then i dont see why we shud spend time organising events to try to bring some life into the almost dead levels of PvP over here

also were not leaving EU, just PvP'in over there as well because they have tournaments with 5, 8 and 16 people in a team. any tournament over here with those numbers in a team would have 0 entrants

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Note, I have been on all tournaments I have been eligible for before that one, and if you want more participants try organising a tournament at lvl 30.

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several of the Retribution team have started up accounts in the US as the amount of PvP in the EU has grinded to a complete stop

so if any1 feels like they want to actually do some big team pvp come across and join us we're on freedom server and the sg in called 'The New Vanguard' and is open to all EU pvp'ers

the americans apparently love 8v8s and 16v16s so the more the merrier

some of The Paragon Defenders will be joining us too, it's about time to show the US how to PvP


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No wonder I havent seen anybody online to PVP... The more of us leave the less PvP there will be here.. sigh.

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...Right. I wasnt looking at the right place. Dammit. The supergroup listing when searched for your own SGs name gives the correct total prestige. Somebody could have pointed that out.

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I assumed everyone knew this. I should have been more specific. Sorry.

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This is actually first time Ive seen that somebody even mentioned the damn thing on the forums.

Assuming that everybody knows, and keeping quiet, is a good way to make sure that most don't. Very few people actually even know how rent works. Ok, rant over

For The Goonies the total prestige is 11242397
and with current rent of 200240, the rent comprises
1,78% of total prestige. Im afraid that corresponds with the chart.