Hammerfall

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They feel inadequate at everything except control, even when Domination is up,

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I agree to this wholeheartedly. Im getting more control powers because I feel thet the secondary (I have energy) is pretty pants.

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and they rely on Domination far more than any other AT relies on their inherent, with the exception of brutes -


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ALthough I disagree with this, I don't rely on domination as such, mostly I use it just to fill my end bar, or save it for the odd elite boss. I have not even been thinking about domination the few times I have PvPed.

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There are 3 things I think the Devs could do to improve doms - 1) improve their normal damage, even if it means losing the damage boost from Domination, 2) make the domination button available immediately as soon as Domination ends, 3) scrap the purple triangles of doom on AVs/Heroes (and their EB downgrades) and introduce suppression instead to prevent perma-holding them (similar to what I understand players get in PvP)

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Id like to see all these happen.

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So if you can live without it during the lower levels (using greens perhaps?) you don't really need to take it later on?

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If I would name top 3 invulnerability powers then dull pain would be nr.3. Whether you take it is up to you, but I recommend it. (ps. it gives toxic res which helps when fighting vahzilok)

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speed (for hasten)

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*cough* lightening reflexes *cough*

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QFT!

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Same here.

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and when also compared to knockback protection on status defences like Grounded (which actually looks to be 50% better against knockback than Entropy Shield and Unyielding numerically). As City of Data pulls its numbers directly from the game itself I think we can trust it.

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If it claims that unyielding has weaker KB protection than grounded then there went credibility bye-bye

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All I'm saying, from a rp point of view, is that in the comics you never get the hero or villain just attacking without any warning unless its a pre-planned ambush. They always yell some sort of abuse to start with

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What the heck? Now this is most certainly not true. Offhand I don't remember any cases that doesn't start with an attack, during or after which they utter their lines.. The villain almost always gets the first hit in. What comics are you referring to? (I have to admit im more of a 80s or 90s man)

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I know one of the accolades needs the 'raider' badge - five hours in Sirens.

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Then how is getting killed in PvP an obstacle to getting the time badge?

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None at all. I was just stating that there are badges needed for an accolade that require more then a two minute trip into the zone! Also if any non-pvpers go afk in the base just to get the badge it kinda messes up the bounty system, but that's a different topic really.

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There is a solution to that. I recommend those people to go stand outside the base. If some player kills them, then don't rez. I believe dead people can't be anyones bounty and they can chat or idle being dead too. There is no auto-rez iirc.

It all stems from the mere 'feeling' that being dead or getting defeated by a player in PvP is somehow 'bad'. There is no drawback to it, it is all just in the mind of the 'non-pvpers'. Who knows, those people might even utilize the opportunity and try out pvp while they are waiting for the time badge. That might be the reason it IS a requirement. If you don't want debt, just stick close to arachnos mobs.

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wow. you have enough people in BB for it to be an issue?

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Im referring to that heroes can quite efficiently prevent villains from exiting the zone..

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I know one of the accolades needs the 'raider' badge - five hours in Sirens.

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Then how is getting killed in PvP an obstacle to getting the time badge?

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But if you choose to get the accolades on the hero side, then you don't have to enter a PvP zone. However, if you choose to get them on the villains side, then you have no choice.

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While the argument has some logic in it, I tried to verify what exactly is needed and apparently you need one exploration badge and one plaque in warburg? I can't believe this is any obstacle to anybody..

There are much more serious issues to solve like the basecamping in bloody bay..

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and for a stalker it change your play style as having a high attack that can crit out of hide make you less dependant of the shadow to do damage.

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If I'm not mistaken all stalker primaries have one.

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Oh agreed, but some people still don't like it. I personally wouldn't be without it though.

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Same here.

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1. If you feel you've been insulted then you should /petition and /ignore and then let the GMs deal with it.

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Yes.. being insulted doesn't give rights to insult back.. I missed most of this convo as i wasnt a member of this channel and don't know what was going on but in general cap cathode has a point.

Slight update to this, grounded is not enough to protect from power thrust in PvP, we just tested it.. Dunno if its WAI or a bug. Dunno how effective it is against other high KB powers.

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My point is that a large section of the community must enter the PvP zones to acheive their objectives - [u]even if they don't want to.[u]

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What objectives exactly? I can't really figure out this one.

Just pointing out taht I dont believe in the existence of a 'perfect team'. :P Even though the old formula of support buffers and damagedealers is extremely good, Im sure there are other kind of working teams too.

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is the base hospital pvp bug still there where you base click and it just resses you on the spot?

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Never had that happen to me.. Sometimes the base has kicked me out straight after rezzing at base though.

The thing that I like about this channel is that its global even if its meant for defianters. Which means that even if im playing a union toon Im tuned in to whats happening Already had some nice arena praccy matches this morning with my SG mates who want to get better in pvp.

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Which is why i actually dont consider haste a good option to have as a must for powers that are of low recharge, id sooner have low recharge powers tweaked to what i prefer them to be so that when haste isnt there it isnt a problem.

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Well I would like that too but I don't believe thats going to happen . I've been saying that mace animations, activations and recharges need tweaking before you even started this game..

The channel is called "defiant PVPers" and is open at the moment, so you can join it yourselves. Ill try to hand out invites when possible too.

If it remains half as active as it was last night then its already worth it, Xan .

Thanks for the arena fights everyone, hope we can keep this up. I know I cant all the time but Ill try.

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Yeah Cap for sure! i dont know who im going to be and more to the point who will take this lonely sheep in there team?

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I guess me and serophina will. That'd make 3 of us. Now if only I could decide on what toon to play..

Yes, the MM weakness is highlighted because of the spawn bug allows spawn point camping which takes the fight out of the whole raid. I had forgotten that actually, thanks extremus for reminding the biggest flaw in current base raids.

Energies are more common in coh PvE.

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One important thing is that I didnt start to feel that great until the late 30's so dont get too turned off if things are still rough at lvl 30 or whatever.

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My mind/energy dominator on union is currently lvl 28 and is far from me classing him even as 'mediocre'..

To be honest I think Mind/energy might be better because of the inclusion of power boost. Power boost would not only help to stack holds better it would help a lot with aid self from medicine pool too. On the other hand I don't really have much experience of psi secondary. I have lost a lvl 50 duel to a mind/energy dominator with my blaster though.

The problem is that while mind/energy and mind/psi are propably best pvp options, thats not saying much because dominators as a whole are one of the most difficult pvp ATs to play.

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Perhaps I should clarify that I dont think the game should be balanced towarsd individuals.

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Definately not. It never could. Unless they removed all powers apart from Brawl.

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It would still be unbalanced cause tanks had biggest lifebars. It would require the removal of most ATs.

....... why don't we go do something more productive?