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Edit: changing clobber to the damage level of knockout blow would make Mace Godlike so maybe i just wouldnt within reason

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Why not change it to total focus damage, which already does 100% chance of stun and with higher magnitude than clobber. Everybody knows how much damage total focus does.. (and this in addition to EM ALSO having stun which is identical with clobber)

ps. I make a point not to call nerfs on EM but Mace still needs buffing. Its (and Axes) unbalance compared to other sets is unjustifiable.

edit: and what on earth do you mean 'godlike'..

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You can break mace and axe down together and find out just how much disorient you get to an end point from comparing. The /Axe tank has less survivability than the /Mace and so needs to be more damaging to gain survivability out of lesser fight duration.

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Mace has essentially one single target disorient attack that does zip damage and with recharge of 20 secs. No offense but thats not enough to promote mace's disorient aspect. I wouldnt call Mace disorienting set. Energy melee for instance basically has at least double as much disorient. Yet I see no one calling EM a 'disorient set'. The other mace attacks have far too low chance of disorient to be of value.

chance values:
clobber=100%
bash= 10%
pulverize=20%
whirling mace=30% and thats it.

Compare to energy melee:
energy punch = 30%
bonesmasher =60%
stun=100%
total focus= 100%
whirling hands=30%

With those numbers anyone calling mace a comparable 'disorient set' is blind.

(values provided by NoFuture)

You can practise and test in arena what works against what. Particularly how well you can stealth for instance.

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I only bother with 2, even if you're attacking all-out you're unlikely to get mezzed.

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Remember if you are getting hit with -recharge attacks like ice or psi, your recharge is getting worse and brawler will more likely fail..

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And for the record too, i do enjoy a good pvp session now and again. Had a great one with a scrapper in Warburg the other day. And i guess one fo the details is with the guy i'm on about in RV, takes me down in 3 moves, whihc is done in about 7 seconds

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7 seconds for 3 moves? well he's not energy melee then..

Then again seeing that you are a stalker, there is at least a possibility of taking him down in 2 hits

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This is why PvP in CoH/V is geared so strongly towards team play (which is also, in my personal opinion, a lot more fun).

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Well in my opinion team pvp is much more out of balance than 1v1.. Take the test server fight nights for instance, usual situation would be that the other team ended up dominating the other even if the teams were done at the spot for each fight differently by experienced PVPers.. When I do 1v1 PVP I at least know my limits and I know what I can do and I know when I have no chance. As a rule of thumb for instance a team without support toons has about 0.001% chance against a team with support toons, given relatively equal fighting skills. Such reliance on the team makeup is pretty much same as reliance in the character powersets and build of a single toon in 1v1.

That said, I love how pvp is created in this game, balance however remains elusive and sometimes I get annoyed at constant promotion of team pvp. Its hard enough to get enough people to even form a bloody team.

None of the tanker epics are 'essential' to any build imo. Energy gives focused accuracy for pvp and conserve power to those who'd need it (I don't know who would). Fire ball is a bit extra for herding and aggrograbbing and all other pools than energy also give you a ST hold which is ok against certain individual enemies like sappers.

a.) If you can prove that he is going specifically after you personally with the intention of griefing then you can petition, with chat logs for instance. Iirc that used to be pretty much the only type of behaviour petitionable in a pvp zone, but normally a lot different behaviour is allowed in a pvp zone than in a normal one.

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And everyone else goes along with the 'farming no pvp' thing, where if some says they're farming turrets etc, no-one on the other side engages in pvp with them.

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Would make me attack you as well. Those who do not attack you are just other farmers. Thats all there is to it - there is no excuse to avoid pvp in a pvp zone. Stat. Personally I hate farmers who refuse to fight, and I hate RV as it is.

edit: swearing and verbal harassment is always petitionable though.

Its not a bad idea altogether to just run away for 10 seconds when you see build up animation, regardless what attack your opponent is hitting you with

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Ok I've been getting my behind handed to my on numerous occasions by an En/En blaster with Total Focus. I'm an Elec/Elec/Elec and we are both 50s (Scarlet Shocker and Proximity if you know either toon) and I am constantly undone by that. Is there anything that can be done about it?

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Pop break free when you see the animation start. That way you wont be stunned even if it hits.

That said, blaster vs blaster match is often like "sudden death" fighting and requires good reflexes Very enjoyable too.

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2 recharge SO's are enough to make it perma. I usually add 1 endrdx

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Two green SOs I believe. It doesnt need much delay though to fail so I think im gonna go with 3 on my stalker (kuji in rin) for instance.

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waiiiiiiiiiiit

so if you put defence enhancements in elude it doesn't do anything?

???????????? :S

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It's not so much that it does nothing. It's just unnecessary.

Elude on its own provides a base 45% Defbuff which puts you at the 95% defence soft cap (you already have a base 50%). Slotting extra defbuff into Elude only has an effect if you get hit by a -def effect. The thing is, alot of SR scrappers don't turn off their toggles when Elude is on. The toggles (and elude for that matter) give resistance to -def effects which makes the extra defence slotting in Elude unnecessary. With Elude, passives and toggles stacking SR gets waaay over the soft cap.

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If you PVP against my blaster you will find it necessary

(and also not enough)

I can drop by at around 7pm I think. I have pvp energy/energy blaster if you wanna compare.

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waiiiiiiiiiiit

so if you put defence enhancements in elude it doesn't do anything?

???????????? :S

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Where did you get that idea?

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Irradiate is the one with the good def debuff of the AOEs (off the top of my head, around 36 or 37%).

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-37,5% defense for 10 secs apparently.

Neutron bomb -25% Defense to Target for 16 seconds

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just out of curiousity how will the use of insp work in this? although i doubt id enter as none of my 50s have any real solo potential.. just intrigued how you are gonner work around that as insp's can often throw a duel in one players favour Break Free's against a controller/dominator for example...

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Before anyone else gives a nasty response: the insp use is obviously nonrestricted. As with all proper arena fights.

we better test this, although I suspect the problem for me is to know when exactly the other stealth powers are nonfunctional.

Im fairly certain that the set bonuses don't carry over between forms, unless someone has other info?

Is there in general good and exhaustive info about how the set bonuses stack? I hear that same %-bonus (like +12% something) will stack only up to 5 times.

I propably cant find the energy to lvl another character high enough to participate, but if I do I let you know. I doubt I can do it anyway.

edit: I hope there will be other solo pvp tourneys after this

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Any binds out there for automatically turning invis off when an attack is activated. Would really help cut down valuable seconds when attacking

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I use my stealth bind which automatically detoggles invis. You could of course use same bind as you use to trigger invis.

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A Stalker can also be revealed by Autohit PBAoE debuffs such as Hurricane or Chilling Embrace, providing that there is at least ONE +perception buff in effect to see through "Hide". However usually the radius of Autohit debuff Auras is only 10 Feet, so there is no combination that will beat "Arctic Air" for effectiveness.

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Not true. Debuffs dont reveal stalkers anymore.

You can also get invisibility from stealth pool to stack with hide for even better protection, but you must switch it off to attack.

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Base Acc buff to clobber would be sweet

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Base recharge buff to clobber would be sweeter.

smug fight talk ftw

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Also, mez resistance is not mez protection. It will reduce the duration, but it won't stop you being mezzed and de-toggled.

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Which is why I dont like those set bonuses at all, since the primary target for those sets would often be a toggle.

I have already improved some of my stats by putting a lvl 50 generic IO over a lvl 53 SO.