Hammerfall

You guys remember that naming and shaming is forbidden on these forums?

There arent that many, tbh.

Lol did you have to make two different threads for primary and secondary?

What kind of pvp do you want your character for? Corrupter can both buff own team in team pvp or debuff which makes it a good duelist etc etc.

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Also This screenshot is great, I remember how [censored] off Nightbringer got on Columna because he couldn't kill me.

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I remember that in the first match I couldn't kill you, labeled your empath as the most difficult toon to kill in your team and proceeded to beat the scrapper down instead. Shadow Fury is my SG mate, pity that he was playing a DA scrapper, of all things.

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I beat darkblapshey with my katana/regen/body/ss/tp/invis scrapper :P

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Aye, farming builds are not specially good for pvp although the tactic was good, 10 lucks+ 10 reds, tp foe+melee hit+laser beam eyes, me dead. Then remain invis (that's not like running, don't lie ^^) for the remaining 9:50 mins, and i didnt have tactics anymore or any yellow. All in all it was imaginative, I had a laugh at it hehe

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I had too just now

Elerith was Extremus' empath if im not mistaken.

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MA is the best dueling scrapper primary imo because it has great control which is excellent against squishies (sun with cobra strike or eagles claw then crane kick to knock them back), and no drawing time. All scrapper primaries are mainly smashing or lethal (except some Dark Melee moves) so MA isnt at much disadvantage in that regard.

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What the man said. I also consider MA as the best all-rounder scrapper primary.

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Fights with empaths on both sides usually have low scores and there is no denying that having a good empath is better than being buffed all the time. At least with resistance or defense buffs you can wear them down over time. Against an empath you need large amounts of damage out put all in one go. A team that had buffs and could heal themselves, with possibly better regen thanks to IOs might be able to get away with no empath but then they would need to have invested lots of time and inf. Maybe there should be a villain version of S4. I'll join anything.

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I meant that a situation where one side has empath and the other one doesnt, is not really balanced. Providing relatively even player skill levels.

Yeah I appreciate the effort that was done to ensure the balance of the teams. 3 person teams are somewhat ok I think. Also level 40 to avoid epic pools.

ps. extremus, I remember, check the pics I posted above

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it worked fine in 3vp

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I dont remember that tourney exactly, but iirc I was there. Was it the one of random toons picked for a team of 3? Then I can say that it didnt work ok. Certain people got booted from tourney due to bad luck in team makeup. Iirc I was one of the few blasters remaining in the tourney during the last stages. It was pure luck in who you got really.

edit: yeah looks like I remembered correctly, I got couple
pics from it. I got some graph card trouble back then.

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Honestly though, unless there's specific rules against powersets/combinations (which I hate) how many teams seriously would go without an Empath, Thermal or Sonic?

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Nobody in their right mind.

If you are going to have a pick up tournament with random toons, you'd need to ban the strongest support toons or randomization would create unbalanced teams I think. Or make sure there is always one in the team.

The support toons skew the team pvp tbh in the way that you always need them.

The hold protection for example is little over half that of one clear mind.. But it was just the sentence that I couldnt understand. I didnt know if you were talking about extra mez or mez prot or what.

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Or just have tank stay out of melee range. It worked well for us (the defiant saturday noon STF team) for several weeks.

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Which also counts as not allowing her to hit with dark regeneration

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Hey just because Imag wanted to get everyone drunk before Xan wanted a fight doesn't mean we had an ulterior motive.

In all seriousness though, if there was a proper pentad tournament, we'd be back for it in an instant. I'm pretty sure the same can be said some other players.

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Pity that there propably isnt enough players for a proper pentad tournament even if we'd get all current PVPers that we know of..

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I'm still waiting for the 12 vs 12 union vs defiant

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How can we have this if everyone has migrated to union?

I dont think TP foe works for stalkers. Ive been TP foed by a stalker numerous times and I only die or even get hit if I happened to be typing something at the moment I was teleported. And how on earth are you going to use tp foe at arena? If you get tp foe, best to slot it for acc, range and recharge. With 6 slots it might have some use, but mainly for your teammates.

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we are talking about the STF if so they both laugh in the face of my invul tank, if we are talking about RV then thats a different matter altogether!!

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Yeah. On the STF the entire team couldn't dent GW. The team wasn't a perfect mix but even so! We threw everything and she just wouldn't drop.

Why are the "same" AVs so much more powerful on the STF?

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The key with GW is just making sure she doesnt hit with her dark regeneration, which makes her pretty much unbeatable otherwise due to her AV-sized hp bar. Debuff acc, buff tank defense, etc.

Organized PVP doesnt really work anymore here in EU because there is an established group of PVPers with huge amounts of hours and inf invested. The winners will always be among these, which kills the interest for new pvpers imo. Everybody knows pvpers are a competitive bunch. Then why bother taking part if you cant win. This is why my own motivation in PVP has died and why I do mostly zones now. Even if the pvpers have luckily managed to avoid elitism, the results are still the same Im afraid.

If you want to promote PVP properly then make some sort of 'beginners tourneys' where the abovementioned people are ruled out from participating, or have fights at lower levels. In order for pvp to be enjoyable, fighting against people of similar level has a huge factor. It makes no sense pitting some newbie pvper against maximally IO-slotted people with hundreds of hours of pvp behind them.

ps. I dont see myself taking part in a pentad Im afraid, I don't have people to practise with regularly, and there would be no chance of victory for pickup team.

pps. Or maybe I have these views jsut because Im on defiant..

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On a side note in case anyone doesnt know, domination pwns TK as its comprehensive mez and has repel res

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I didnt understand what you are trying to say here, can you clarify?

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the exception being those darned ice tanks and perma-eluders :P

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Rad/sonics PBU+RI and PBU+aim might be enough to hit with LR..

Edit: hum
fast healing
reconstruction
quick recovery
dull pain
integration
resilience (with just the basic slot, its for stun protection)
instant healing

There are regen powers you want.
hasten+superspeed,
combat jumping+superjump
hurdle health stamina is what I have
and the last pool well.. Maybe provoke+intimidate, so you could fear him to stand still and hit with the big attacks. Invul has no protection against fear.

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ice/ice dominators would chew /inv scappers up without a second thought, hwll most dominators will

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Dominators properly IOed..

Edit: I should learn to read..

Scrapper vs scrapper is more than likely to be a draw.. So better roll a debuffer or a blaster I say. Maybe even a mastermind..

I dont understand the rules, what does 5 of the AT available mean? Is this pentad or what? Are kheldians allowed?

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Come along with no preconceptions and just play and enjoy.

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I've been there... Most of my experiences come from there.. Its either random chaos which isnt fun or the other team has better coordination or toons resulting in numbers like 35-2.
I'm sorry, but team pvp doesnt seem right for me. The last squished tourney was ok, as small team made it possible to have some coordination, but it was brought down by reason number two, "getting people together". Due to misinformation about when the tourney was held(he thought it was other weekend), Sero had to leave early and that was that. Then I tried with Raz, who is a good pvper, but due to lack of toon synergy and coordination our fights got the expected result of 0-2 and out. Its depressing.