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Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
But in game, I've served alongside both the Paragon PD, and Arachnos troops, and the Praetorian PD, and the Praetorian PD scare me less.
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I must have missed badges like this by the Paragon Police Department buildings:
Secret Prisoner:
"You have found one of the most forbidden of places in Praetoria: the secret interrogation chamber beneath the PPD Precinct where the officers take the most recalcitrant prisoners for enhanced interrogations."
Disappeared:
"This is where enemies of the State vanish forever. These lost souls have been brought here from the PPD Headquarters for summary execution without review or recourse."
Silent Witness:
"You have seen much injustice and brutality in your journeys through Praetoria, and here beneath Precinct 4 in Imperial City you are witness to a chamber dedicated to both. Will you remain silent forever?"
Nailbiter:
"This PPD interrogation and holding area is littered with the signs of harsh treatment. Dried bodily fluids, ripped off fingernails, and a few human teeth mark this area as a place you don't want to wind up in."
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Mass murder? Really? Of whom?
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Enemies of the dictatorship - or even their families, who the PPD make "disappear". Tyrant even tells the loyalists that his hands and theirs are stained with blood.
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If you're going to bring the ghouls into this, Praetor Berry didn't start in on the Olympian Guard super-soldier project, or the Goliath Warwalker project for that matter, until (and yes, this is canon, I checked with the dev team) their world was attacked by a timeline with 10 times as many supers in it; that's more our fault than the Praetors'.
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So was it the Praetors idea to conquer the multiverse, and Tyrant just went along with it?
Did their thinking go "that world where democracy and free will are encouraged seems to be suspicious of our nightmare fascist world and have palced scanners to monitor us - we must enslave all of existence" - or was the idea of multi-dimensional conquest already in Tyrant's head?
After all, he is Praetorian Earth's greatest villain, according to the devs, and archvillains are pretty big on enslaving worlds.
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The BAF is one of Praetor Tillman's projects, I've said that I won't defend her.
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The BAF is run by the PPD, who are Tyrant's personal army.
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Fascist outlook? Have you BEEN to Paragon City?
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Yes - and neither the state or the federal government seem to be murdering, torturing, brainwashing or oppressing the people there.
They also seem to only put up statues to dead heroes, and not members of the government, and there's also a lack of any kind of personality cult around Statesman or Positron.
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Drugged water ... I've been meaning to get around to pointing this out for at least a year now, thanks for reminding me. It has only been a hair over 15 years since ninety percent of the entire human race was killed in the Hamidon War, a planetary disaster bigger than what the great plagues did to the native Americans. Under those circumstances, part of me thinks that putting low dose anti-psychotics and anti-depressants in the drinking water is a brilliant solution, no more controversial than fluoridation. I wonder how much the dev team agrees with me
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Going by the actual storyline, I'd say roughly zero
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notice that within days of Calvin Scott's destruction of the Enriche facility, riots broke out all over the city. After a planetary disaster on the scale of the Hamidon War, I think it would take at least a generation to see even minimally sane human beings again.
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Rioting when you find out that you've been brainwashed by a fascist distatorship is a sign of sanity, not insanity
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Remember that the people of Praetorian Earth did vote for Cole. They begged him to take the job, repeatedly, after he'd turned it down.
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Making his grab for power look too obvious wouldnät fit with the lies he's trying to project
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And as for Skyway City, been there lately? The murder rate's a lot higher there than it is in even the worst parts of Praetoria City, probably even including the tunnels.
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Yeah - only the murder victims in Skyway aren't dying at the hands of the police.
That was one of the many neat little visual touches in GR - they replaced the tradtional citizens in peril from ciminals zone mobs with citizens in peril from the dictatorship zone mobs - muggings were repalced by arrests for "interrogation", which was a great way of showing that there was no one to protect the people, as the biggest criminals in Praetoria were all wearing government uniforms.
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Praetoria City has the Praetors and the Powers Division, but is what Paragon City has any better? Is the FBSA really doing any better of a job policing Paragon City's supers than the Powers Division is?
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Well, according to the devs, the Powers Division kills more people than the Clockwork, PPD, Seers and Praetorian Guard put together, so that would seem to indicate that they're not - but as murder and oppression are the main purpose fort eh existence of the Powers Division, then ithey could be viewed as doing an excellent job.