Golden Girl
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Quote:The devs were taken by surprise too - yesterday, they were promoting the next content patch on Facebook, then 3 hours later they put up the goodbye post.Originally Posted by ba0death
No joke.
Crap... I just cancelled the download, what an awful thing. They should have a sign or something at download. Are they at least going to allow you emulation? "Earth and Beyond" from EA games only ran 2 years but has been in emulation since.
How sad, my deepest sympathies
-Baodeath aka Wendy Hardy
The game is still profitable, with an extremely passionate and dedicated fan base, and there are soem things being planned to try and save the game and the community in some form, inlcuding emulation.
I think that you should finish the download, and check out the game, and maybe you'll see why so many of us aren't going to just lie down and let it die. -
Quote:The big one you left out was licensing another exisiting engine - that would slash development time and costs.Originally Posted by TonyV
I've been pondering these possibilities. If there is a dependency on third-party components such as the game engine, there are several possibilities to get around this, such as:
1) We could work to acquire the engine from Cryptic. Probably unlikely, but hey, we can dream big, right?
2) We can work with Cryptic to license the engine just like NCsoft did.
3) We can use crowd funding to hire developers to develop a drop-in replacement for the engine--possibly some of the very same developers who have been working on the game for years already.
4) We can use crowd funding to hire developers to develop a new, better, shinier engine. More expensive and it would totally depend on the amount of crowd funding revenue available, but still a tantalizing possibility.
5) Probably more options I haven't even considered since it's been less than 24 hours since I've been mulling all of this--and a whole lot more--over. -
Quote:Or it could be called "Resurgence", just for fun.Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
I'd like to propose that whichever way it happens - CoH 1 being saved or CoH 2 being created by the players, the name of the first Issue should be "Resurrection."
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Quote:With the scope of the costume creator, art assets would be one of the biggest jobs in any CoH2 project.Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
I command all of you to download Blender and become familiar with it.
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Quote:She was logged on to the forums late-ish last night.Originally Posted by Rubberlad
Amen.
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Quote:In other words, CoH2 - which could actually be a good thing for the long-term future of the game world - the settings, stories and NPCs we all know and love, but using an engine that has much more scope than the current 10 year old one.Originally Posted by Airhammer
So lets say for arguments sake somehow the IP could be secured. You dont have the rights to the engine.. so a new one would have to be developed correct ??
A new engine opens up the possibility of asymetrical costume parts, 3 or 4 colors per costume part instead of 2, animated hair, multiple cape rigs, dynamic lighting so that power effects cast their own light, no war walls, seats and benches you can sit on by clicking them, super speed over the surface of water and up vertical walls, holsters/scabbards that display your actual chosen weapon that disappears from the sheath when you draw it, better mob AI, destructable environments, picking up and throwing objects, RV-style phasing tech for whole zones and so on - a new engine could give us the game we have now, only even better. -
It might still surface in some form at another studio - NCSoft were obviously impressed enough with it to green light it, so they could still get someone else to make it.
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Quote:That's how I'd like to see a Kickstarter CoH2 handled - there are enough dedicated and responsible CoH fans who'd be willing to give their time for free to help run the game and cut down on costs.Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
All three games are also published by their developers (Dofus and Wakfu by Ankama Games; Kingdom of Loathing by Asymmetric LLC, which is really just a half-dozen actual employees and a larger team of volunteers for internal playtesting and moderation), so there's no chance of the rug being pulled out from any of them.
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Quote:Well, they're safe, because they're not part of the official IP - Positron is written into the IP, and features in the official comics and other promotional material.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Wow...that's just a totally dick move.
They can take MY characters when they pry them from my cold, dead hands. Scumsucking vermin...
As another example, when Jack left, he wouldn't have been allowed to use the name Statesman anymore - and the same goes for BAB. -
Quote:We don't know - yet.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Oh cool. What do they look like?
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Quote:When GW2 is curently having trouble with its servers, and NCSoft's CoH closure statement mentioning "refocusing publishing support", it's hard not to think that part of the reason that they may have decided to cut CoH is to help GW2.Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
I've actually seen a few people blaming City of Heroes' closure on the launch of GW2, which is really kind of sad and baffling since Guild Wars is developed by ArenaNet and is PUBLISHED by NCSoft.
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Quote:A bit, but porbably not enough - the dev team will cost more to fund than the servers.Originally Posted by Shadow Wail
If they cut servers would that help costs?
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Quote:Starting from scratch could be a long-term goal - but an emu server would be awesome for letting us play and stick together while we were getting the fresh start going.Originally Posted by Evercry
If we all stick together on this and help titan as much as we can it will be ok.even if that means building from scratch again.
EDIT: Copyright issues with the IP would also probably mean we'd have to create our own one for any fresh start - although I think that we should try and make it as close to the original IP as possible. -
The major problem we've got here is time - not only for gatering the data for an emu server, but also for the alternative of trying a Kickstarter CoH2 - it's unlikely that any of the devs ae able to wait around in the slim hope of something getting off the ground - they have themselves and their families to support, and need to find new jobs as soon as possible - so even if we did manage to get something going, by that time, the Paragon Studios team would have been dispersed across other studios.
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Actually, with the current problems GW2 is having with its servers, and the phrase in the CoH shut down statement about "refocusing publishing support", there's a very good chance that GW2 is at least part of the reason that NCSoft is withdrawing support for CoH.
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Quote:Apparently, going by what he said on Twitter, Positron wont even be able to use his name anymore, as even though he came up with it way before CoH, it now counts as part of the IP.Originally Posted by Fluorescent
So... we don't want to continue on with the game, but we don't want anyone else to have it? That's like.... the epitome of greed.
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I got a message from Blitzwing/CapeMike, asking for me to let you all know that he's still keeping up with the situation and isn't at all happy.
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Quote:And what was the mood like when the bombshell was actually dropped?Originally Posted by Second Measure
Thanks, everyone. We spent lunch reading the forums and reminiscing. I would like to say that it is a testament to the team that the mood in the office today was celebratory of our successes and camaraderie and not sad or angry.
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Quote:Well, by holding onto it, they don't actually lose money doing it, and they deny it to potential competition.Originally Posted by Schismatrix
This is what confuses me; is there some sort of tax write off you can get in Korea for holding onto an IP instead of selling or using it?
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City of Heroes isn't go to die on November 30th - the servers will be shut down, but the commhnity and the IP will still be there.
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I'll be here until the end.
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I'm availabel to help in any way that I can - but I'm concerned that this is the now the 7th MMO that NCSoft have shut down rather than trying to sell on to another puiblisher, so there's a big question mark over them even being willing to listen to offers.
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CO has no soul, and DCUO is just a mess - there's nowhere else to go for online superhero action.
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At least be there for the final day, and see how many instances of Atlas Park we can spawn across the servers.