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  1. Golden Girl

    Costume Creator

    There's already a stand-alone version of id from the launch of the Korean version of the game - and apparently it's still floating around somewhere in cyberspace.

    As for any hacking, that's not an option right now - the focus is on getting NCSoft to negotiate a player funded buy-out of the game and hopefully the studio too.
  2. Golden Girl

    Swan song

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Flying_Carcass View Post
    Hero, by Nickleback

    http://youtu.be/STJXWtIzGzA
    This one has alternative pictures:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42y2vO-7-5U
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by vulpish_one View Post
    I wonder if the Titan Network has started soliciting video game news sites yet? If we could get one of them to do a "human interest"-type piece on the fandom and especially the grassroots efforts to keep the game alive in some form, it could really be a windfall for the cause: it would legitimize our efforts to outsiders, and possibly introduce more parties to NCSoft, CoH, and the thought of purchasing the IP and/or code.
    There's a very big human interest angle to the story - just look at all the posts we've had about how the game has helped people in RL.
    There's also an angle as a follow up to the ME3 disaster - players demanding certain basic standards from game makers/publishers.
    Then there's the "99%" angle - consumers vs big companies.
    Or, if you want a nationalistic angle, an American game based on one of the most iconic aspects of American pop culture is being ditched by a large multi-national corp that just doesn't get it, with the loss of 80+ American jobs.
    Then there's the social networking angle, with Twitter and Facebook being used to organize a rescue attempt.
    And then there's also the fact that people just plain love an underdog story - along with the theme of the endangered game being players fighing to save the world from fictional villains are now having to fight to save their virtual world in real life.
    The extemely open and accepting nature of the community and the game that lets you be anything could also generate attention from several news sites with a cyber bullying/homophobia/female friendly/family game angle.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wolvorine View Post
    If Paragon Studios wrote a new engine and re-tooled the IP to the point where it was no longer infringing (that part is really easy to do, honestly), then they wouldn't need Cryptic OR NCSoft to play any ball. That's why it's currently my favorite save-our-game fantasy, it'd put Paragon Studio in a position of being -entirely- it's own boss, answering to no-one concerning what they can and can't do.

    And yeah, I'd be all over a kickstarter for that, within the confines of my pathetic budget.
    The big problem we have is that a kickstarter would take time to set up, and the devs, quite rightly, have themselves and their families to support, and can't really hang around without a job, relying on the players being able to pull off a minor miracle for them.
    Getting NCSoft to suspend the closure until a buy-out could be put together would also create probelms, as most/all of the devs would very likely - and quite rightly again - not want to work with NCSoft again after the way they've been treated - so by the time we'd gotten the game away from NCSoft, the dev team would have dispersed to jobs at other studios.
    It looks like our only hope to preserve the game and the dev team is for there to be a buy-out from another publisher very soon.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wolvorine View Post
    Matt, if you guys were able to find a financial backer that could pay everyone at Paragon Studios a minimum living wage while you guys wrote a new engine, developed new art assets to go with it, re-tooled the IP to be non-infringing, and would extend the studio a loan for starting servers (I wish I were that person, if I had the money I would be in a heartbeat)... I would be here when you all were finished with my CC in hand ready to step back on-board with you guys. I know that's a ridiculous scenario, but I hate the idea of Paragon Studios breaking apart as you all find new jobs.
    We might all be able to do something together - that's how Kickstarter projects work - but we'll need NCSoft to play ball.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen View Post
    Debbie Downer time: I'm sure all communities in all games over the years have wailed and gnashed their teeth against imminent shutdown. It rarely works. In fact, I can't think of an instance where it did.
    City of Heroes isn't just another game.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by hazard View Post
    I just want my City of Heroes back...
    A lot of us do - and we're fighting to make it happen in some way.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by mercykilling View Post
    I favor the above ending. We win, but at great cost. It's....fitting to the sorrow some of us feel at losing our digital home.
    It's not lost yet - and no matter what happens in the next 3 months, it is going to continue in some form after November 30th.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Second Measure View Post
    Gonna miss it, man, let's do it again.
    Your help would also be really welcome if we can get anything going to save the game or even just the IP.
  10. By the way, regardless of IP legal issues, you're still Positron, and always will be.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Positron View Post
    So this isn't goodbye. I will end up somewhere and I hope that I can "run an RPG" for you all again someday.
    We'd all love to to still be able to run this one for us - or a new version of it - and if we do manage to save something from from this more-than-a-game, we'd love to have your help, even if it was just giving us advice.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Killerkitty View Post
    Why hide them still now, I don't get it?
    Because there are still penty of question marks about the future right now.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TechnoBabel View Post
    We don't want to go out at all.
    Some of us aren't planning to.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dethos_Zahrim View Post
    Yeah, would be great to see a CoH+ (whether a sequel to or evolution of what there is now). Sort of is the obvious desire to see a Paragon Studios working on that. But it was the studio/staff and the community that has made CoH so great. I don't think you could possibly hope to re-capture what that has been.
    A core made up of original devs would work - after all, Positron and War Witch were the only 2 of the "first gen" devs left - devs have always come and gone on the project, but because there was continuity provided by the longer term devs, the spirit of the studio was always there, and was absorbed by all the new arrivals - so as long as there was a core who knew what Paragon Studios was and stood for, then they could pass it on to the new team.

    EDIT: If you look as all the red name stickied goodbye threads, Wa Witch is the only one there whoe's a "first gen" dev - all the others came to the studio later, some were even orginally just players - and they all took on board the Paragon Studios culture.
  15. Golden Girl

    Boycott NCSoft

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mutallis View Post
    "Never Give Up - Never Surrender!"
    A lot of us aren't.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by General_CoH View Post
    The evidence that CoH was just not profitable is far more convincing.
    CoH is still profitable - if it wasn't, that would have been the reason they gave for the shutdown, not this vague "refocusing" stuff.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CatMan View Post
    Doubtful given people trying to resurrect Tabula Rasa and having no joy there.
    It wasn't City of Heroes - there's something very special about this game and its community.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
    Not on my own. But I reckon that it's possibly as doable as buying the IP
    Currently, I think that the IP may be cheaper than the required amount of shares.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    How is it that George Lucas hasn't banhammered them yet?
    The "nonprofit" part's the key bit - they're not using his property to make money for themselves.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steelclaw View Post
    To heck with getting the IP from NCSoft.

    City of Heroes is/was a wonderful game, but why spend a lot of money just for the sake of bringing back specific NPCs and locales?

    Instead of spending money on purchasing pre-existing intellectual property, put ALL the cash into developing a completely NEW franchise. Let's face it, the Paragon Studios team could do it... and do it fairly easily since they're all used to working together.
    The thing is, any new game would have to be very similar to CoH - that's why people are fighting this shut down - the only thing that can replace CoH is CoH2, and even then, it'd still have to be familiar.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheJazMan View Post
    What're the chances another company comes and picks up CoH?
    Well, as it's still profitable, with a very loyal player base, and possibly several of the dev team still available, it could be an attractive investment - but only if NCSoft wants to play ball.
  22. Golden Girl

    Not Goodbye

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheNet View Post
    @ Everyone I am looking into joining Paragon forums that are not official if they intend to stick around so be sure to stay in touch!
    Head to the Titan Network: http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php - that's where the rescue attempt is being put together.