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  1. The 3rd link does actually sum up the community's attitude to the game and the devs.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by shadow35 View Post
    Bases, and even an extended beta period trying to get everything on track (and even a back-burner scenario for I24 while they adjust the game over to publisher X) wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
    I'm the same - although we've gotten used to the ramped up flow of content since Freedom launched, I'm totally ok with an extended "quiet period" if another publisher takes over the game.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueBattler View Post
    So if Sony (or anyone for that matter) buys COH what exactly would they get?

    The lore and NPCs, for certain.

    But how much of the powersets, graphics, and features are tied into the Cryptic engine? Could those things work in a non Cryptic engine?

    Would they then have to lease the engine from Cryptic?
    From what I've read, the license for the engine is open-ended - SOE would get it with the rest of CoH.
  4. If NCSoft are not prepared to play ball over CoH, then they'll be getting more than just a boycott.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by herotoonefan View Post
    Pursuing a broad and aggressive media campaign is GENIUS!!! NO company likes bad PR. And all it takes is persistence and numbers to get things on people's radar screens--and we have both!

    I think this could both become really big and really have an effect.
    Social networking is a double-edge sword for even the biggest corporations - here's a neat little story about how a MacDonald's Twitter campaign took an unexpected and unstoppable turn:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1223678.html

    However, we're still in the peaceful negotiation stage, so I don't suggest any excessively negative campaign against NCSoft just yet.

    Right now, the key thing to get across to the media is that a popular, profitable, long-running and family-freindly MMO has been axed by NCSoft with no definite reason given for the closure, and that thousands of players are doing everything that they can to convince NCSoft to sell the game rather than close it - this sums up the situation, and shows NCSoft to be in the wrong, but still leaves an opening for them to make a graceful departure from CoH by accepting the wishes of the fans.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SlickRiptide View Post
    Buying CoH goodies would do it for me, though. In case someone from SOE is listening in. ;-)
    And if they are, I'd also sub to DCUO as sign of gratitude, even if I'd never play it.
  7. Don't stop now - keeping pushing it as high as possible.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by End Sinister View Post
    at least we'll make NC Soft look really bad in the process.
    I've got a few ideas for that already - but that's only if we get to the war stage.
    Right now, we're trying for a peaecful solution, using the very resonable pitch of "if you don't want the game anymore, then please sell it to someone that does - selling it will actually get you some money, which the planned shut down won't".
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
    Beta is still online.
    People have been reporting that they've been unable to log on to the Beta server - we were assuming that the "all development ceases at once" stuff meant just that, and that all the non-live servers had been shut down.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zombieluvr View Post
    Firefly had the Browncoats, what would be be? Blue, Red, and Gold coats?

    (Probably something more Paragon-verse specific. Giant Amoeba coats?)
    We're the Resistance - right now, we're on the Warden path - but a switch to the Crusader path is still an option.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Light_Petting_EU View Post
    The more I hear about I24, the sicker I feel.
    We might still see it - don't give up just yet.
  12. Right now, using the word "spoiler" has a positive vibe to it.
  13. By the way, if another publisher makes an offer for the game, writing to them to offer our support, and generally letting media sites know that the community is behind the offer would be a good idea.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Angel of Retribution View Post
    The SOE thing, that does kinda worry/reassure me. Worry, because I'm not sure how much they had to do with the SWG mess. That might have been just something they tried on a lark: "Hey, everyone likes Jedis!"
    They had a lot to do with it - basically, they got hit by the WoW-train, and decided tto try and make their game more like WoW, but with lightsabers - which,m interestingly, was the same design thought behind EA/Bioware's recent MMO.
    That kind of thing happening to CoH is unlikely, as it's already 8 years old, and is the leading title in its marketplace - there's not a bigger title that it "has" to try and match.

    If you want a huge positive, then you just need to look at the EverQuest franchise - the original version is 13 years old, and still being run and updated, along with the 8 year old sequel - and a 3rd version of is currently in development - so SOE seems to be not only happy to keep open and update older games, but is also apparently totally fine with running multiple versions and investing in a successful IP - and if that was the angle they were going to take with CoH, then the future would be looking not only very safe, but also rather bright.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vyver View Post
    Great, that just made me sad again because I'll never be able to do that stuff again.
    Don't give up just yet.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by khorak_EU View Post
    At some point a long time from now you'll realise how utterly ludicrous it is to be trying an email campaign to Valve, so they'll use their own money to brawl over City of Heroes with NCSoft because you emailed them a bit.

    You're asking them to make a simply colossal effort, which is what this is, for very little return. You know what, I think they're going to do nothing and continue to be mind bogglingly wealthy without the effort.
    I support any and every attmept to save the unique community and game that we have here.

    You might also be interested to know that there's a rumor currently going around that the mind-bogglingly wealthy SOE is making an effort.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gunbunny View Post
    How about EU accounts?
    It applies to all accounts.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree View Post
    Given the high risk, high cost and long development time involved in launching new MMOs, especially in the current market, I can easily envisage an established title like CoH being an attractive property to acquire. Sure, it'll never be the WoW-style cash cow that publishers dream of, but it's a solid title, prominent in its own genre, with years and years of content just sitting there, and an exceptionally loyal fanbase.
    Any, very importanly in the current MMO market, it has an established hybrid payment model - it's not like they're picking up a struggling title and then adding a F2P option in the hope it'll work - what they'd get in CoH is a stable and profitable title with an established F2P system.
    For any buyer, CoH is very much a "pick up and play" title that can generate a profit without needing any extra investment above the level it was receiving from NCSoft.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemur Lad View Post
    a graceful exit
    So far, NCSoft is too good at those.

    Quote:
    a situation you will probably regret even more.
    I'm trying to think of a situation on CoH that I'd regret more than a total shut down of the game.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueBattler View Post
    I'd wage the Devs are already resigned to the fact they are moving on. Even if Sony or someone else buys the franchise, they are probably going to run it cheaper with fewer Devs just in order to save money after making the initial investment.
    CoH also has a ratehr unique and complex engine with years of twaks and fixes - why hire someone who didn't know how it worked and spend time training them when there are developers out there and available who kow the whole thing inside out?
    Plus, there's the whole retun on their investment angle - if they buy the game, they'd very likely want it -and especially the Paragon Market - up and running as soon as possible - and there are unfinished power sets and cosutme parts already on Beta, as well as a whole Issue, and the people who worked on it are still available to continue working on it.
    I just can't why SOE buy the game, then put it into maintenance mode for a few months while they hire and train a whole new dev team for a relaunch, rather than just rehiring the original devs and getting the subs and market cash flow back up and running within a week.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Technerdoc View Post
    I'm sure there are some companys out there that really want take City of Heroes over
    It's still the biggest and most popular superhero MMO in the market, and still profitable - it's also a well-loved and respected title that would bring class to any company's stable of titles.

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    I hope for an happy end, but NC-Soft never selled any IPs so far. They just close them, ignore everything what happens after it and this is the reason why they are losing money right now because the costumers remember this.
    Hopefully, the fact that they do seem to be short of money, and September is the last month of this financial quarter, a offer for the game could tempt them to sell.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Black Pebble View Post
    I love every minute of working on this game.
    If that's not a typo, then I like your use of "love".
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Starsman View Post
    If the reason for the shutdown was the 6 million dollar loss, then shareholders will never allow for a generous offer to be ignored.

    If my suspicions are right, NCSoft is in dire need for money to continue operations through this quarter.
    I was thinking that - we're into the last month of Q3 now - I think that it could be very hard for them to turn down a multi-million dollar boost in September.
  24. Golden Girl

    I...

    Crying over something as unqiue and wonderful as the game and community we have here is perfectly understandable - but it's also not game over yet.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
    That said, even if Sony or another publisher were willing and able to pick up Paragon Studios, it's likely they'd want to reduce the team size while critically analyzing everything they do as they try to get a return on their investment. And that would suck.
    That's the problem - the studio wa working on CoH and another project, so they'd need a new project to work on.
    But going by how SOE seemed quite happy to develop, launch and run EQ2 beside EQ1, then they could green light COH2 from the studio - or possibly go for a GR-style paid expansion as part of a bigger investment in their recent purchase, in the same way that NCSoft bought CoH then backed a dumper truck full of cash up to the studio door and asked the devs what they'd like to do with the game - which then brought us power customization, the AE, a graphics revamp, side switching, Praetoria and the Incarnate system.