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IF: "Unless there's someone afk mooching on your team, it's a terrible idea to let someone's health go low in order to get endurance." = true

THEN: "Vigilance encourages a defender to kill off team members" = false

Which one was this? Last pvp thing I was in was the 2v2 one and the loss we got there was from Al Bob Spanky Pants and that female scrapper whose name I keep forgetting over and over.

I can't remember what tournament I was in before that one.

That's right. I went into a mission, put snow storm on a group, and stood there as they attacked me without running. After about ten seconds one of them began attempting to run into melee range, an epic feat which took him a good six seconds.

This proves you didn't understand what you've read. I never said snow storm doesn't cause scatter, Luminara did. And when I said foes could be AoEd to death, I was referring to a team setting because soloing is so easy that it doesn't require snow storm.

As for a snow storm anchor running off and aggroing groups, you know it's possible to turn off toggle powers, right?

Ultimo, I give up on you. I no longer believe you have the ability to understand these concepts.

Okay, this part made me mad, but I'm going to try to explain this as calmly and clearly as I can. There are only a few true statements in the above post, including but not necessarily limited to: thunderclap being useless and O2 boost being unusable on the caster.

In the above post you mention that Snow storm causes enemies to scatter (very slowly). This is the secret to a large part of Storm Summoning's damage mitigation. By dropping snow storm and freezing rain on a mob, you trigger its escape AI which makes them -stop attacking- you. Freezing rain + snow storm will put enemies at the movement floor, which means that it takes a -very- long time for them to escape, during which they aren't attacking anything. This is often more than enough time for your team to AoE death most of the spawn, leaving a few enemies left to be picked off.

Lightning storm does not have significant knockback, and does not cause a notable amount of scatter. It will always attack the closest targets, meaning that all it will do is push a group in a certain direction as long as you don't summon it in the middle of a mob.

Also, hurricane is perfectly usable outdoors. In fact, I find it -easier- to use on outdoor maps than indoor ones. Outdoor herdicaning involves circling an enemy group, pushing them very lightly into a small clump. Getting them together on an indoor map is actually harder since many rooms are too narrow to hit a group with hurricane from multiple angles without running through the middle of them.

This is all really a moot point though, since this is about soloing, and the only powers I use while soloing are my blasts, toggles, and lightning storm. Freezing rain is used on bosses/elite bosses only. And in case anyone points out that I'm sonic blast, I do the same thing with my storm/energy and storm/ice.

Dude, chill. We had some serious kindling going there for a minute but you ruined it with your m-m-m-multi post. Truely epic flame wars require a unique state of zen. If you keep trying so hard it won't work.

Out of curiosity and in an attempt to steer the conversation in a more enlightened direction, what's your reasoning for this? Don't both powers have the same ratio of up time to down time?

Aren't you the guy who used his job at an ISP to disrupt the connections of people you didn't like and then got fired for it?

Where did you explain wall torches? Because I'm still confused by that.