Gangrel_EU

Originally Posted by KemLi

Since this seems to be the place.

I can remember my main NCSoft Username an P/W . I can't remember my 'question' answers, so I tried to go through the support website process. Problem here is , as someone mentioned it's not the same info as the main login, so all i've been able to do thus far is ask for my password to be reset, as nothing else works.

Essentially, I am currently full of rage and will be taking it out on any squirrels that cross my path today.

I'll try something again, later when I've calmed down. As for now...Bah.

Originally Posted by Starcloud

And for who can't bother to actually read the posts they're replying to, we're not talking about the Alpha Slot.

We're talking about Judgement, Lore, Interface, Destiny. You know, the not-Alpha incarnate slots. That use Incarnate Threads to create components.

Pay attention.

While you're correct it only takes 56 shards to create a Very Rare plus four Notices of the Well, you're *missing the point*.

It takes 3200 Incarnate Shards to make 96 Incarnate Threads to make one Very Rare for a not-the-Alpha-slot Incarnate ability.

Originally Posted by Dispari

No. If you do the high end task forces, and the raids, and get components and things, then you're still getting the majority of the incarnate system. You aren't entitled to BAF rewards for free or low effort, but it will go a little slower than you since you aren't getting all the stuff you need for it.

If however you refuse to do all the incarnate content. All the task forces. All the trials. And plot out getting things entirely with shards you got soloing newspaper missions. Then yes, your sense of entitlement in regards to incarnate rewards is too great.

It's exactly how it works now. If you get alpha with entirely components it can go really fast. But let's say you don't feel like doing a CoP or a Reichsman TF (which is a pretty reasonable expectation). You toss a few shards at those components and move on. You can skip some of the things you aren't that fond of.

Now, if you refuse to do any task forces, get any components, participate in any of the WST, then your shards-only route for alpha is 488 shards. I have no sympathy for people saying that's too many. Nor do I have any for people saying 1600 is too many for Judgement et al. There are plenty of options available to you. If you opt to take none of them, and only grind shards, you made your bed with that one.

Originally Posted by Lothic

I have no problem with new badges requiring multiple weeks (or even months) of effort to earn. Being able to "instantly" earn badges can be fun sometimes, but having long term goals to achieve is fun as well.

Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer

Yes, which is I how I think it should be. Being able to essentially run +4 against enemies is a little OP.

Originally Posted by BasilAcid

Not to pop up in the middle of all this heated discussion, but from what the EU people were kind enough to post, it looks like I'll be opting out of the Incarnate system. Or, at the very least, only casually advancing a single character. If future Incarnate abilities are only to be used in raids (as others have said, I havn't seen that myself) then there really isn't a point for a casual like me to have them.

I can see why people are reacting strongly to the announcement and EU Beta test information, but bear in mind.. said beta test is still a closed test. We can't test all of I20 right now, and as others have said, other Overview pages lacked key features to past Issues. The pink elephant in the room would be the lack of mention of the Judgement, Lore, etc etc Incarnate trees. I'd imagine there are other features not being mentioned just yet as well.

That's just my perspective on it, Devs. Still subbing with the hopes of (at the very least) non-Incarnate updates each issue.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Quick off-topic question: Would something like MineCraft qualify as a pure sandbox?

Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree

If it's not going to be brought up in a thread discussing an issue with zero solo content, when should it be brought up?

Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

Then what exactly is the point? Why not just allow conversion of Shards to XP without adding another type of currency?

Unless something is planned to directly award Threads somewhere down the line.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

I stopped seeing these forums as the friendly, mature community that "we" like to pat ourselves on the back as being about six months ago. I'm not sure if that's when the change happened, or if that's when I personally noticed it, that being the the first time I started to get actually concerned for the game and expressing "unpopular" opinions.

However, the mere fact is that if you hold an unpopular opinion here and you dare express it, you become a pariah, and otherwise reasonable people will not think twice to resort to surprisingly low-brow insults, passive-aggressive goading tactics, false dichotomies, opinion-as-fact and a whole slew of other malicious argument, all seemingly with the hope of stamping out dissenting thought.

When my stomach turns just seeing certain people's names, I can no longer say that this is a nice, friendly community in good conscience, because it isn't, not unless you filter out a great many people.

I hold no obligation to be "understanding" of the work of a professional development team, a team that I am a paying customer to. If I like the product, I will say so, and have on many occasions that people conveniently forget. If I don't like the product, I will also say so. That's what the forums are for. City of Heroes differentiates itself from other games through the direct line of communication with have with the development team, however much some posters would like to sever that line. I intend to use this to make my opinion know, for what that counts. My honest, unedited opinion, not a reined in version that omits important points.

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I don't like I20. I like it even less than I thought I would when people were insulting my intelligence and telling me how much of an idiot I was for doomcrying without having seen what's in the Issue. In 20 Issues so far, I have not seen one that has had so little for me, and I count things like PvP which I don't do, base building which I don't care about, Inventions which I'm not interested in, Safeguards which I hate, badges which I'm not interested in and and really any Issue that I can think of to name.

Furthermore, I have never before felt so genuinely depressed for the future of the game than I do right at this moment. I see a feature list which horrifies me to my very core, and I can just see the pride with which it is written, as if saying "Tune in for more of this!" I'm a patient man, I'll see this through... But I've never, ever had to rely on patience before.

This is my opinion of I20. If you don't like it, you are free to not read anything I say ever again, because it doesn't look like I'll be saying anything new. If my dislike of the Issue makes you angry, then that reflects on your own personality more than anything else. Me not liking the Issue shouldn't take away from your ability to enjoy it because - as I was reminded countless times - my $15 is worthless, so no-one should really care if I stay or go or how I feel about the game. I'm one of those repugnant solo players, after all, and as such you won't be teaming with me anyway. There's no reason for you to care.

I'm done arguing for my right to have an opinion, an I don't intend to do so again.

Originally Posted by Lazarillo

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? More new currency? S.E.R.I.O.U.S.L.Y.?!