hi, sry to bump such an old thread
but what i gather is that when using a power, the effect attached to it (i.e. -def) is preventing placate from functioning correctly/working at all. i wanted to see if anyone had effectively found the "work-around" for said bug?
i tried skimming the posts for an answer, but it seemed like towards the end it just turned into a flame-fest with no real info being posted anymore
Also wanted to add a comment on this issue overall:
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Just because a bug isnt game breaking for an AT doesn't that It shouldn't be fixed at all.
The reason its not been fixed by now is because lol villianside.
Just a couple months ago a few tanks were having some problems with gauntlet not working. *gasp*
Not game breaking in any way, but still a problem that needed to be fixed. So, all the servers were brought down during the day to fix it.
Its been well over a year since placate was addressed.
Fix the dang thing already.
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*GASP* That post almost makes too much sense!!!
I couldn't agree more, it's annoying to see that a tanker bug which was in existence that wasn't game breaking or made the tankers not tank well, yet the servers were brought down for what 3 hours? Just to fix this bug and yet placate is still not fixed.
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Have to 3rd that.
but imho, it seems that tanks are VERY popular
and are easily top 3 among AT's (if not THE top).
So assuming the above to be true, and you had one of the most played AT's glitched,
it would have affected most players logged-in at any given time.
Which would be something of a top priority (but not to downplay the Placate bug at all.)
But even if Gauntlet was glitched, wouldnt you still have Taunt to fall back on?
True, you couldnt punch-voke, But you COULD still Taunt.
You could still be a very effective tank with taunt and no gauntlet.
But i dont see you being as effective w/ gauntlet, but no taunt.
imo, Doesnt seem sooo serious that it required a total shutdown of the servers lol.
But anyways, To clarify, i 100% agree that stalker attacks' 2ndary effects (-def, -speed, etc.)
should NOT negate placate's effect and a fix is in order.
Its almost like giving an indirect punishment or handicap to a player for having an added effect.
Scary thing is though, that in essence makes EVERY spines/em/dm power other than AS almost ineffective.
Thats a Huge Bug.
You have now limited a player who chooses one of these powersets to either:
#1. using only AS--> Placate--> Hide--> Rinse--> Repeat as a means of attack
or #2. NOT choose/use Placate. Which is insane, considering that its one of the main stratagies/necessities in being a stalker.
but w/o placate, how could you even...i mean...its just....
...actually, nevermind that. i will just say that option #2 is so ludicrous, that i dont have the time to list every reason why its wrong.
Lastly, Not counting AS, a total of 25 out of the 42 available attacks available across all stalker sets would suffer from this bug.
Thats over half. Wow.
So basically that means while using Placate in PvP:
Negates the use of ALL Spines attacks.
All DM atks.
All EM atks.
And Most of NB's.
And this isnt a problem?
Well, i guess u could slot brawl as a viable option...
Can ANY body, dev or not, hero side or villian, honestly say thats "not a top priority" ?
At the very least, it should be considered for fixing as an on-going and very noteworthy bug.
still <3 CoX though, probs and all.
hey, after all, nobody's perfect...