GMan3

Funny.

Look at the announcement page and you'll see OR just look up two posts and you'll see I just posted the relevant quote.

"* Please note Origin Auras and Capes are not locked to your origin and can be freely accessed by any of your characters from level 1."

Copied from the announcement page which was linked to from the very beginning by Avatea.

I think you may have misunderstood the announcement. I am pretty sure they are Origin "Themed" costume items, not restricted. Still, I am not so sure I am willing to pay $10.00 for 15 costume items either.

She may have felt "earnest" in her desire, I think she was just being silly and over-sensitive to boot.

I agree with you, which is part of why I reacted so strenuously against her stand.

I completely agree. 100%. Of course I have already said it a few times now, but I figured it could not hurt to say it one last time. I just honestly hope the company staff looks at this thread and sees how little support there is for changing the name, not to mention how silly the argument for changing it really is. In short, I hope the PM's to get the name changed FAILS!

I am still on the fence with this one too. Leaning heavily towards no at this point though because $10.00 for 15 costume pieces seems a little steep to me. Especially since I am pretty sure I have already seen one or two of them being used by enemy factions in-game. In the end it will all depend on how good it looks in-game.

I can't remember the names of the powers myself, but yes, there is. Mostly melee defense type powers I think. I am out of town right now though, so I can not log on to verify either.

I am done arguing the analogy with you as well. If the badge name, the book it *may* have been named after, AND the act was so "Atrocious" then the two enemy groups and the act of the Nazi Regime they were modeled after should be just as "Atrocious". If you don't want to see. That is your problem.

I have to assume you mean this post:

I won't apologize for ignoring this. I never ignored it, I never even saw it before. I will say now though that you appear to have very little understanding for what you are saying though. The charge of heresy was used for practitioners of other faiths as you said, but the it was used synonymously with the term "Witchcraft" which was basically defined as following pagan beliefs which every other religion was considered to be by the church of the time.

I would challenge you to actually research this yourself. I DID in order to better understand my own religion better, both historically and modern.

My, your right, there was two or maybe three other people in this thread that feels as she does.

So? That is relevant how? Never mind, I really don't even care at this point.

That was from GG if I remember right, but even if it was not, I feel her argument is silly at best so I chose to argue against it. I have also said I think it would be more appropriate to keep the badge name as a learning tool. To remind people of bad things can be very important in keeping it from happening again, as we are looking at today in real life.

As for the rest of your post, I ignored a lot of it because it was little more than a rant AND because it was already covered by other people before I had a chance to reply.

Now, since you said you don't want to debate this any more, I wish you a good day and happy hunting.

Actually, the argument was over GG wanting the name of the Malleus badge for killing witches in the Halloween Event changed because she feels it is a reference to the "Malleus Maleficarum" (which it probably is). A book written for the Church in the Middle Ages used for identifying, prosecuting, and killing "Witches". It really is a rather silly argument overall, but go back a few pages and read it for yourself. You might just get a kick out of it.

Ah, sorry. I thought you were talking in-game heroes.

I agree. If you want all the badges though, you have to run it five times and pick a different badge each time. You probably already figured that out, but I am putting it in here since I ran with two kids last night, for about an hour and a half, that kept choosing the same badge reward.

Now see, there is no reason to get insulting. I mean really calling me a RPer AND comparing me to GG? Ok, I don't really care about the RP comment (though I don't actually RP) but the comparison to GG was uncalled for.

Oh and someone pointed out that Praetorian missions include killing. I will admit that I missed that, but it only adds to my argument. Though I am not sure how they can and not loose the "Teen" rating for killing other people. It really is a lot different than killing an Ogre or a Bantha after all. The "symbolism" of killing a human is often what pushes games into the "Mature" rating.

Now there you might be right. I do have a strange sense of honor. Killing things that can't fight back is wrong, killing things unnecessarily is wrong, and killing things that are "Your Equal" but vastly inferior is wrong too. Which is part of the reason I do not like MALing or EXing down. By the same token though, if killing is necessary to complete my mission, then so be it. Let the killing begin.

Oh yes, you obviously know me perfectly. Well . . . except that you are wrong again. Enemies that are too much lower do not attack you unless provoked in some way. I simply don't provoke them because I know they can't fight back. It is this same reason that I dislike "kill all" missions and why I normally try to stealth as many missions as I can at higher levels. Most of the enemies just have no chance and so I try to skip them. That doesn't stop me from killing what I have to in order to complete my mission though.

Well it was fun playing with you, but that was your third strike and now you are out. Good Day.

Oh, even better . . . or not. I don't kill things that can't fight back. It's a personal issue of mine. Try again. You may manage to trip me up before I go off to bed.

Oh very good points. Well except that if I get close to them, they attack me and I am now defending myself. Good try. Better luck next time.

Manticore comes to mind. As does whoever it was that created the vigilante squad known as Longbow. Not to mention several of the Spuer Powered "Higher Ups" in Longbow itself. At least these are stated in the "Lore" of the game as such.

Good points all around Aura_Familia. I just don't buy into the goody-two-shoes lore of the game. I know it is a fantasy Super Hero Game and not supposed to be all that realistic, but this particular part of it is TOO unrealistic.

Yea, sucks doesn't it.

"Hey Skybolt! You just saved the world from total annihilation but your still a murderer!"

"Hey Electro-Kid, thank you for killing those men before they could **** my daughter, but you still a murderer!"

"Hey Batman, you just killed Two Face before he could murder thousands of people, but your still a MURDERER!"

It's all about perspective.

I actually was not trying to win the argument. I know that unreasonable people can not be reasoned with. I am willing to admit that the action she is so upset about was horrible, but demanding the name of a badge be changed will not change that and is silly. The name is very appropriate to the INTENT of the book it was supposedly named after AND to the action being taken in the game.

Or if you want to talk about the silliness of not killing someone trying to use a laser blaster/machine gun/super powers/etc against you . . . Well, I would not be trying to arrest anyone in that situation. That would needlessly create a greater risk to my own life. I would take them out permanently and I am pretty sure a lot of people, probably most people agree with me.

Overall though, I was not trying to win, I just wanted people to see what I believe to be the foolishness of her arguments.

I would say call it "Malleus" and let it serve as a reminder or the wrong that was done.