Fulmens

Jojo offered 100 million to people who would come up with a way to game the market that worked in the long term. (maybe a billion?) Eventually he said "I'll do the work, I'll put up the money, just DESCRIBE it to me" and still never had any takers.

I have been known to offer people 100 million if they'll shut up about how hard the market is.

The main thing is, this isn't that tough a game- especially not the first 14 levels. Run around, shoot/hit things, have fun.

For your first time through the game [if you decide to join us for real] I recommend going with training/dual/single origin enhancements. To clarify:

A couple years into the game they added a new, parallel enhancement system- the invention system. It gives slightly better results for the same money, or much better results for slightly more money, or VERY much better results for RIDICULOUS amounts of money. It's much more complex, as well. (The Market Forum is where we play with RIDICULOUS amounts of money. You're welcome to swing by and say hi if this interests you; just be aware that no matter what assumptions people make, you don't need this stuff.)

The TO/DO/SO system is what the game is balanced around- you can play with the regular enhancements, just fine. You'll get a lot more benefit from having teammate buffs than you can ever possibly get from the Enhancement System.

If you master the basics of the game fast, you can move onto the Invention System early; if not, you can stick with SO's and do just fine.

Welcome to the game!

I, too, have done this. Often and in public.

I have it.

I am the only one who has it.

And it is SHINY.

and below level 10 I don't think you can email stuff from that character...

Olle said

I feel that Billz has a high number as well, but I don't flip out about it. (How many of the people in the game have multiple 50's, compared to the forum population?)

Anyone want to let them know the etiquette of buying something that costs over the 2 billion market cap? I mean, the general theory is that you trade for 999,999,999 a couple times, you both go to the market to get/drop off that 2 billion in trades on imaginary items, you trade for the rest... but at what point is the good actually exchanged for the cash?

I've never done such a deal before, myself.

... what did you do from 1 to 49 ? Did you enjoy it?

... and be ready to fork over YOUR half of the money.

I'm with Dechs and Claws. "ten times tougher, most of the time" will do you better than "1.2 times tougher, all the time".

ow!

Doubleposting because 10 posts went by before I came back to this window.

A clarification on Stamina: A lot of people build with the assumption that you MUST MUST MUST get Stamina the second it's available, which is level 20. (A lot of people also talk on the forums with the assumptions that you are already level 50, that you have a ridiculous amount of money, etc. )

I would recommend aiming for Stamina between level 20 and level 24. There's a lot of good powers in the teens in most sets, and I'd rather have good powers and an endurance shortage than endurance and nothing to use it on. A lot of potential teammates have powers which increase your endurance recovery some or all of the time.

I try to keep myself to one topic per new kid thread, and I'm going to go through "gear, or what passes for gear".

There are two types of Enhancements: the original path (training, dual-origin, single-origin) and the invention path ("IO's"). For the first 3 years or so there were no IO's. They make the game more complex, which may not be what you need if you're new to it, and they produce improvements (small to large) in performance over SO's, and they can be two to a thousand times more expensive than SO's.

My recommendation for your first character is to go DO's (from level 12 on) and SO's (from 22 on) . It's simple, it works well enough. You need to replace them every 5 levels. I'm going to give you bad advice now, that is "good enough" advice. Sell every piece of salvage at Wentworth's for 1 inf; if it doesn't sell in five minutes take it down and sell it to a store. Sell every recipe at Wentworth's for 1 inf; if it doesn't sell in five minutes take it down and sell it to a store.

This is bad advice because you'll sell almost everything for less than you COULD get for it.

It is good enough advice because the few thing that are worth millions will still sell for millions- they'll just sell for 1.6 instead of 2.1 million, or whatever- and you only need 1 or 2 million inf every 5 levels for new SO's. And it's simple.

The market works by matching highest bid to lowest reserve (so the 1 million inf bid will go to the "for sale, 1 inf or best offer" selling price, then the 500K bid will go to the 5 inf offer) until there are no more matches. At that point every bid is below every offer- sometimes WAY below- but if you put something up for 1 inf you will get the best bid that is sitting around. Lots of people have lots of "lowball" bids sitting around; there are stories of people getting 50-million-inf recipes for 10 THOUSAND. But if you have all the money you need for your lifestyle, who cares that you made someone else rich?

Hmm. 7 days 6 hours.

I've been wrong before, and as I said: you could test it.

Edit: I'm wrong RIGHT NOW. All global everything is down right now.

After seeing the new market interface, compared to the old market interface, I'm not sure I want a new Respec Interface.

The new interface is... better in some ways. Worse in others.