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Quote:... darn. I wanted to hear him explain how it's insulting when I say he's ignorant, but not when he accuses me of lying.
You all have a nice forum. I'm history (again).
Think he's going to stick his head back in and go for the rare,difficult-to-acheive double flounce? -
Quote:You can't buy below people's listings, and you can't sell above what people will pay. Anyone who wants to beat a flipper can buy for a price 1 inf above the flipper's buy price, if they just have the patience that the flipper has.Originally Posted by SargentWild
Just how does buying low and selling high drive prices down? Not sure my math works the same as yours! Currently Alchemy Silver is running at a high price, even though inventory is comparable to lower prices. Sure, a certain amount of momentum exists in a market. But this trend jumped the market merge. Sell your BS to some one who's buying.
I just pulled three things that sat, overpriced, for a month.
This isn't the first time I've bet wrong and sat on inventory for a considerable length of time.
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OK, 24 hours left to step up or be left down with the peasants!
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SargentWild said: (emphasis mine)
Quote:... you mean, like Focused Smite, Smashing Haymaker, Cleaving Blow, Multi-Strike, Maelstrom's Fury, Ruin, Airburst, Detonation, Serendipity, Red Fortune, Harmonized Healing, Reactive Armor, Titanium Coating, Essence of Curare, and all the other wonderful cheap sets on this page?New pool A recipes that make complete sets with out the need for drops from other pools. Set bonuses would be suitably mild. Sort of a half-way point between regular IO's and current sets. These would also be available at university work tables and priced accordingly.
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Quote:I don't know if they expected the system to have capped bids in place. Regardless, I'm not sure you can say that an unbiased random system can BE unfair.Originally Posted by mammalian
I assumed (and rightly so) that identical bids would be queued in chronological order, first come first served, to me that seems to be fair. The present implementation is completley based on chance so i might in theory never get the item i bid on unless i saturate the bidding to give myself a better chance. That would be very hard in the case of bidding for a +3 gladiator.
The traditional way of outbidding people with 2b bids up is to find one of the many "Want to buy +3% gladiator" threads and post in it, or start your own. Basically go off-market. I'm not in that business, I don't know what people are currently paying.
EDIT: It's a repeatable pseudorandom system, but it is very very hard to game anyway. -
Scrappers are about 6 times tougher (using SO's at level 35 for a reference point).
Blasters do about 50% more damage, when survival is not an issue. [Based on having taken multiple Force Fielders to high levels. I've seen a LOT of blasters do a LOT of damage, and a LOT of scrappers do... exactly the same damage they always do.]
I'm very happy with that tradeoff (I have Fire/Elec, Fire/En, Sonic/Mental, two Fire/Ice, En/Fire*, Elec/Fire**, Ice/Ice at high levels. Possibly some I'm forgetting.)
I will leave you with this thought: There are teams with more mitigation than they need. There are no teams with more damage than they need.
* second character ever. I cannot recommend this combo.
** Enormous fun if, and only if, you have buffers on the team. This is a blaster that really DOES die that much. Pointblank, slow-animating, AOE, damage over time. Ice tanks wish for that many aggro grabbing tools. -
I'm coming at this from a Force Fielder perspective.
I have played with force fielders who didn't take both bubbles, who don't keep the bubbles on the team, or who are otherwise Bad Bubblers. I don't care if you don't want to bubble people, but if you don't want to bubble people DON'T PLAY A MONKEYFIGHTING FORCE FIELDER. 12 alts per server, do something else. Don't be a remora.
Generalizing: Kin only has about three good powers, as well. If you don't want to use those three powers, perhaps you'd be happier with some other powerset. (My list is Speed Boost, Fulcrum Shift and Siphon Power, but you could make a case for the heal. I'm not much of a kineticist.) -
* FF/Sonic is not a build that really benefits much from hasten- or global recharge in general. So that will save you a few hundred million inf. I agree with the "two single targets, plus howl" attack chain.
I've gotten much much better results building for ranged and AOE defense than I ever have from building for regen, or damage, or recharge. (No, I don't think four Force Field defenders is a lot... how many do you have?) -
Turbo: Perhaps instead of talking about "idiotproofing" we should talk about "risk management". Speaking as someone who accidentally vacuumed up half a stick of butter once, mistakes happen. Bad luck happens. Avoidable problems are sometimes not avoided.
And the joy of force fields is, these things happen and your team lives anyway.
Unless you're claiming that "the use of Char, Flashfire, Cinders, Block of Ice, Glacier, Ice Slick, Tesla Cage, Jointing chain, Syn Overload, and Paralyzing Blast in that scenario" gives you a zero percent chance of getting countermezzed. -
What's your global? I'll email you the starter cash, zero percent loan.
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Quote:I find ways to amuse myself with it.Are you telling me that some of you are sitting on billions and haven't purpled out every toon you own? - No wonder you are stil sitting on billions! -
It's an extension of "Viva Las Vegas" on Infinity, so there's about 8 regular players, who may have more than one character each in the SG, plus the [up to 5] benefactor slots.
If you wanted, Pitho, you could become benefactor #3. I also want to point out that nobody's picked out a room yet- if you want the Nethergoat Transit Authority or the Enyalios Memorial Hospital or something, better grab it now! -
Quote:Please do. @Boltcutter , much appreciated.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Oh yeah, one question- I assume I'm sending it to your global, Ful?
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Quote:Absolutely.Originally Posted by BashfulBanshee
Hmmm If we get a room named after ourselves can we build it too?
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Chriffer: I suspect we'll see a long-term shift in prices due to the purple ratio, but I don't think it's going to be as large as you're suggesting (If I read it right). L50 LoTGs, crafted, are 150 million RIGHT THIS SECOND, which isn't that different from they were pre-merge. L25's haven't changed much either. Numina's, kind of crashed but they were crashy before Going Rogue too.
That seems to me to indicate lots of demand even on stuff you can generate pretty quick with the current system.
Anyone have any data for how badly purples spike after, say, a 2XP weekend? Because we are getting the same sort of influx of new 50's now that we do then. (Very roughly.) -
Quote:Don't forget Freaks - they just added Super Stunners to the game...Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Yes, Arachnos, Malta and Carnies are extremely rare enemy groups at high levels.
Well, in all fairness, I suppose they are rare for those players than pick & choose the easiest possible content and avoid anything that might be a challenge. -
Q_Candy: so by adding more ways to get purples they raised the prices? Nothing to do with people giving up their 50's for a month to play praetorians, who reached 50 and now want purples?
I tell people WHY I'm putting them on ignore, and in this case it's because you make no sense. -
Quote:Classic game theory thing. You've got two people guessing what the other one is going to do with the goal of meeting up. Suppliers want to roll at the levels people will bid at, and customer want to bid the levels people will roll on. The "most obvious" places are on the 5's, with a special gold star for level 30.
levels on the 5s (25, 30, 35, etc) sell faster than the off level ones.
Why level 30? Because that's what rikti invaders drop. (1 in 2000 per boss of a pool C. )
There's also a slight historical bias, although it may have gone away, in favor of level 33 because that used to be what you got when you outleveled Katie, and there may be a level 41 bias due to Eden- if there ever was one, it was pretty small.
Level 31, 34 and 36 are pretty well unloved in my experience.
As far as pricing? For a few weeks you could be INCREDIBLY aggressive with valued uniques, and in some cases you still can be.
I am trying to reverse-engineer what I go through to price stuff. I don't have actual rules, see. I divide stuff into roughly four categories: Extrashiny (MORE valuable at level 30-35, like LoTGs or Stealths, and worth 50+ million), Very Shiny (low supply, sells well at max level, worth maybe 30 million), Good (maybe 10 million crafted), and Bleh (priced at Take my IO Please levels- less than cost of salvage for crafted, like that.)
Bleh at max level is going to be bleh at any level.
Good at max level depends on how it sold (if any data exists) for levels around mine. Probably try for a little over half the price- 5.5 million if the level 50 sells for 10 million, like that. If there's unsold inventory I'd cut it below half if I needed the slot.
Very shiny I'd sell at roughly the same level as the max level item. Someone will buy it. I know, all the last 5 prices are at 3-10 million and I'm telling you to list for 30 (or 26.1m, if you list like me). It'll sell. Where else are they going to get it? It's VERY SHINY.
Extrashiny is where my greed and my fear go to war. I've gotten 200M for LoTGs in the low 30's (yesterday) even in "this market", it just takes a tiny bit longer. I got 120M for a Stealth when "market price" was around 50-80. -
... so how's life with no depth perception? (I wasn't the only one, apparently; we had some stray individual list one under 60M, I think.)
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Sands of Mu is, as has been mentioned, a free vet benefit.
Let's break this down:
1) Free. If you don't like it, play like you did last week.
2) Vet benefit. There comes a point in game balance where "Vet benefits" make the vet experience TOTALLY different from the new kid experience. I start up a new character, I'm dual wielding the nemesis staff and blackwand, I've got Sands of mu, I've got three major hitters [by level 1 standards]. I'm ninjarunning, I can go to pocket D, I've got a mini-jump pack, so I don't really need travel powers. I've got two little pets if I want them, one of which even does something minor. (Oh, and I haven't paid for a costume change or done a respec mission for the respec since about 2006.)
The challenge for vet benefits, and I think Sands is possibly TOO good, is to make them useful enough that people are happy about getting them, but not so useful that people without them are gimped.
Is this an attack that every one of your characters will rely on, level 1-50, while you mock the 11-month peasants with your obviously superior skillz? No. And if it was, that would be kind of a bad game design, don't you think? -
Dark has a bunch of effects and they all work differently.
You have a click debuff that does MOST of the work for you (That cone fear? Is actually a 400 horsepower debuff with a fear hanging off the rearview mirror.) You have an slap-it-on-the-ground AOE slow that also increases your damage by debuffing their resistance. You have a Defense/stealth pointblank AOE field (if your teammates don't have "dirty feet", they're not in the field.) Yes, you also have a toggle that you can hook onto your enemies. But it's not like Rad where those two toggles are doing most of the work.
... the entire rest of the game has trained your teammates to click glowies. It's not really their fault. -
No, no, you're not SAVING the customer money!
You're GOUGING THE EYES OUT OF ANOTHER MARKETEER by ruining their niche!
Think of the marketeers... out with their children on a beautiful spring day... unable to catch a ball.
Then look at your shiny white hat and ask yourself: Do I deserve it? Really?
(... I just took someone's "Buy at 7, sell at 80" niche down to "Buy at 7, sell at 55". Maybe it woulda happened anyway. That's what I tell myself at night... lying in bed, not sleeping. Maybe.) -
Quote:Actually, I think it's because people who write guides are clueless - they're 50, they've been 50 for a quite some time and they've forgotten what it's like to not be a 3-year or 5-year vet, or to not be someone with 50 million inf who knows how to make another 50 million any time they want. I'm not necessarily any better, and probably I'm worse.Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
What you'll find is there are very few guides/builds written for "as you level" That's because almost anything works. Pointing you to existing guides that are built around being level 50 and having money to spend on sets and enhancers won't help you.
There are some general "levelling up" build hints in my frankenslotting mini-guide; maybe those will help? -
I'd probably set out with great intentions and end up with 93 IO sets as beloved and balanced as Calibrated Accuracy.
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Fortunately I'm currently hiding my money in 10-stacks of bids at 100 million, on things that cost way more than 100 million.
Bring it, say I.