Fulmens
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We will strike.
Oh, yes, we will strike.
We will strike like nobody's ever struck before! Well, except Psychotix. -
Quote:Quoted because many, many people overlook this point. I would also like to mention that I can't remember anyone complaining about the price of a LoTG +Recharge lately. That was an absolute STAPLE of the pre-AMerit groanfests. You have access to the best builds that anyone could make before purples were introduced, easily and cheaply, and nobody talks about them any more.
And yet, a ten billion inf build is not a hundred times more powerful than a one hundred million inf build. The pursuit of that ultra-expensive but only moderately more powerful build allows other players much easier access to second tier builds. -
I had a disgraceful weekend; I think I only made about half a billion inf.
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It has been mentioned that midlevel recipes are hard to buy AND hard to sell. Nobody sells what nobody's buying and nobody's buying what nobody's selling. This is on top of the core problem, which is that the system makes it near-impossible to generate things at non-native level.
I'm going to play middleman and buy people's stuff and resell it. I need help working out the details. Should I buy "anything orange" for a million and list it for 2 million? Should I just buy the stuff that people ask me to buy in this thread? Should I buy yellows? What should my limits be [e.g. "stop the experiment when I have 100 items of unsold inventory" or "lose half a billion inf"? ]
I can't fix the underlying problem. I can't make a significant change in the market as a whole. But I can move a hundred, or two hundred, recipes from "delete" to a buyer who wants them. -
Uberguy, a ways back up there you said
Quote:I think you flipped a "not" in there somewhere. Or else 2XP has more deeply confused me than I realized.Purples got more expensive because, in part, the price on things like LotGs, Miracles and other "Pool C" stuff dropped, but the price on purples dropped. -
Quote:You have access to the same tools of logic, reason, and rhetoric that I do. You cannot be shouted down with volume. You cannot be arbitrarily silenced by another player. I didn't get "mod's pet" status when I hit 10,000 posts. You cannot be bullied or intimidated unless you let yourself be.Originally Posted by kinaki
This thread and the hundreds of others like it goes nowhere. Any sensible idea gets shot down by the vocal minority who think everything is peaches and cream as they play their AH minigame.
CoX is unique among mmo's in that every single attainable item is known - there are no random attributes [to enhancements]. Along these lines, yes, you can indeed just have everything available from an npc vendor whose prices fluctuate in realtime as varying amounts of supply get sold to it. If you don't like this "middle-man" acting to stabilize the market, then you're likely just out to make a buck at the expense of others.
We have the same tools, you and I. (Or you and Yomo, all_hell, Nethergoat, whomever.) If you get "shot down" it might be because your ideas weren't very bulletproof. -
Eryq2, my esteemed colleague. You have made a statement that is obviously wrong, and it is trivially easy to prove it so. To wit, "nobody" slots several sets, some of which I have slotted on at least ten characters.
Did you perchance misspeak? -
Quote:Well, I don't believe YOU exist either.
Noone wants air bursts, serendipity, and plenty of other sets. They may as well delete them from taking up space. Who actually goes to WW to get them for their builds? Go ahead and look at the sub forums and find a build posted where people want them in their builds. -
I'm going to mention farming the market. It may take a couple hours to learn the basics but I pull down something like a billion per week per character over three characters, and I'm not doing anything spectacular. 3-4 niches each, once in the morning and once at night, mostly stuff that I buy for 15 million and sell for 40 million, or buy for 10 and sell for 25. On those three characters, I'm spending between 30 min and an hour a day. People who work higher niches more aggressively can make a lot more.
You can do this on top of your normal play. (I recommend the a-merits, either directly or by converting reward merits. One a-merit converts to easily 100 million inf. If you don't like ouroboros or task forces or tip missions, you may not actually be enjoying the game.)
EDIT: It would probably be around 30 minutes total [10 min/char/day, approx 120 million inf/char/day] if I wasn't dawdling and playing around. -
Quote:I haven't run stone melee, but my spine/dark scrapper, with the two damage auras, was impressively harsh on endurance.
DA/stone tank (is there a heavier toon on the blue bar with no means of boosting their own end in primary/secondary) -
Quote:Yeah, people were talking about losing stuff in email, and I replaced the "email containing PVP recipe" with "email containing name of unused character holding PVP recipe" and felt much better when the gleemail crash came around.
But if this keeps happening I'll be too afraid to store anything this way.
Ah, pointers. -
Minotaur: Was it you from whom I bought 18 random Pool C rolls, and none of them were worth a bucket of warm drool?
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Technically, the more things get sold off market, the worse inflation gets... a 2 billion inf sale removes 200 million from the game, a 3 billion inf sale removes zero.
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... I was like "Dark Armor running sprint? WTpancake?" And then I realized, stalker, so no damage aura.
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Quote:Well, WITH the price cap they're 3-3.5 billion, so WITHOUT I'm going to guess 4Bn. The market does tend to skooch prices up due to the Buy It Nao people. (I've been on both sides of that. It's good.)
Just think of how much some of the PvP IOs might sell for if there wasn't a price cap on them -
3 billion inf kicked in. We're up to 564 million prestige. Still getting WHOMPED by the ladies and gentlemen of PsychotiX. (687 million-ish.)
I'm looking for a date of renown to get another bonfire going. Hmm, May day's too far out... Lenin's birthday, Trotsky's birthday, Proudhon's birthday, no, no, no.
Ah. February 21. First publication of the Communist Manifesto.
Any better dates? -
I'm in ur game stealin ur sales
... sorry about that. -
By the way, the "pay to shift" idea is totally not mine. If I gave any other impression, I apologize.
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Yomo: Take Zamboni lessons.
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I guess we get to define our own problems and then solve them.
Too much inf! Not enough midlevel recipes! For 10 million inf you can change a recipe to any level in the same "band" (1-25, 26-40, 41-50) and for 10 million inf you can change from the bottom of one band to the top of another or vice versa (25 to 26, 41 to 40, whatever). So for 30 million you can turn a LoTG level 50 into a LoTG level 26: 50-41, 41-40, 40-26. For another 10 million you can turn it into a level 25. Some people would pay the extra.
I kind of like the idea of a very small number of merits being available daily for inf. Set up like a 6-merit TF that is just "Craft this widget [crafting cost: 10 million inf]? " Something like that. -
The current lowest listed price is higher than the current highest bid price, or the system would sell things to people.
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It's all very well to say "It's the journey, not the destination." Once you've gotten to the destination, that is.
I remember my first 50 was a huge project. (Although at 572 hours in issue 4, that's not just my imagination.) I ran around Atlas giving money to anyone with my powerset combo. There was a parade, maybe. My second 50 was also kind of a big deal. Now it's like, "hey, grats on superding!" And then you do a death dive because debt means nothing to you, which used to be a more significant statement Back In The Day.
Good luck gettin' to 50 and hope you have fun all the way there! -
Behold my obnoxious new advertising technique!
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I could see it happening ONLY if there was a severe self-correction involved. For instance, a daily timer, like TFs.
First time: 4 merits, 10 million
Second time: 2 merits, 10 million
Third time: 1 merit, 10 million -
Quote:Common IO recipes can be bought for inf from the tables.
2. Common IOs: random recipe and salvage drops, poor use of tickets and merits, brief mention of crafting badges.
3. Salvage
Salvage [terrible rates, admittedly] can be bought for Alignment Merits.