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When did they start allowing VEATs to be made blue side? I thought they were still faction restricted until level 20.

Have you tried lowering your mission difficulty? One of the alts I'm currently soloing is a level 15 Emp Controller (hard to get any squishier than that) and +1/+1 seems to work best for him. And that's focusing on offensive powers. I've used the second build for the team support power choices.

And if the issue is that $2. bucks once a month is a financial obstacle they have trouble overcoming, then they have bigger problems to worry about than a video game.

Oh and in regards to the hypothetical question "What if Mommy and Daddy won't pay for it?" That's called parenting. Mom and Dad have every right to tell their life sucking parasite that if he or she wants to spend money on a video game then he or she needs to get a job, get good grades, whatever conditions they want. They even have the right to say "No." without any explanation.

The EULA still requires players be 18 or have a parent/guardians permission to play the game under Section 9. ACCOUNT ACCESS AND PERMISSIBLE ASSIGNMENT.

Read the responses in this thread. You've already been told exactly what you get, and you were given two links that also give you that information.

It is not a flat argument, it's common sense and you know it.

If you don't know what something is or how it works don't claim it until you've done some research first. (I.E. Asked your friends in the game or in Help, Check the forums, Look it up on the Wiki)

But Lyc, There was a warning, and you quoted it in your first post.

Now I'm not trying to offend you but when I see a warning like that I don't say to myself, "Well even though items X, Y, and Z are character bound that warning didn't apply to items A, B, and C. So I'll just claim it and assume it works like A, B, and C." What I do is leave it unclaimed until I've checked out if it can be transferred or not.

That's what I did with the ATO's I got from the Super Packs I bought. I assumed they were character bound until I confirmed otherwise. Then I only claimed 1 on a character that could use it and tested to see if it was character bound by placing it in base storage. When that worked I took it to the market and tried selling it. When that also worked I claimed all the others.


I do agree with Arcanavilles' idea.

But knowing how often people choose to ignore information provided and blindly click without reading I don't expect it to solve the problem. Some will read it and most won't.

So does that mean there's absolutely no chance you guys could look at the Halloween Brain in a Jar and give us an option that had the Fish Head inside instead of the Brain?

Cuz that would make for an awesome space alien.

I have one of each type of account, and I can state from personal experience that I have encountered no problems playing any of my characters be they VIP, Prem, or Freem.

In fact I find it refreshing to be able to play the original basic game again since it's the game I first fell in love with.

Sorry but I don't see how being given a free access to play the basic game, when prior to that you couldn't play at all fror free makes you a second or third class customer.

No, he didn't say it. You deliberately misquoted him in order to change the meaning of what he posted. What Tony actually said was

That is completely different than what you are trying to imply he said.

No, they aren't true. What Tony posted was the whining of a small group of people with entitlement issues demanding more handouts.


TANSTAAFL. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. You get what you pay for.

That's only your opinion because you want more than you're allowed on a Prem account.

Poor tactics and strategies on your part have nothing to do with the type of account you have. 90 percent of the characters on my VIP use nothing more than the same stuff I have access to on my Prem and Freem accounts and I don't suffer more than the occasional character death.

There is more to the game than mashing buttons. If that's how you play you have no one to blame but yourself.

Exactly. And the people that they'd be pissing off the most are the long term vets. Those loyal customers that have supported the game for 5, 6, 7, and 8 years. You know the ones that spend money.

No they wouldn't. They thought no one would get upset over possibly losing their global names and they learned otherwise. They would never be so stupid as to force character name changes. People will cancel their subs over that.

Furthermore you are ignoring the problem of what happens to characters that can't be transferred because there isn't enough slots for them on the destination server. We only have 48 slots and

And you if think players aren't going to quit if they're forced to give up the bases they've spent hundreds of hours designing and told to start over from scratch your not being realistic.

Hey we aren't using Galaxy City, the original Faultline, or the Rikti Crash site anymore. Move those zones over to Praetoria. That'll give them 7 zones like redside started with. Explain it as a Nemesis Plot, or Rangle's fault.

/Arcanaville

It's always nice to have a witness come forward when the reputation of a server is maligned.

Well you are wrong. If your post history is any indication of the type of account you have (You only post in the All Access sections so I'm guessing you are a Freem or Prem) the problems you are having stem from

1. The fact that you aren't a member of any global channels. and

2. Villain side has NEVER had a large population on any server (Most people that play a super hero game want to be Heroes. Go figure.), and once side switching was added the majority of the players that did have villain characters went hero side.

Don't forget that pathetic excuse of a tutorial we have now.

No you don't need to stay a VIP once you've created a base. However there is a catch. Only a VIP can pay base rent. So that leaves you with 2 options if you want to drop back to Premium.

1. Invite a VIP to your SG so they can pay rent. (there are SG permissions and you can allow him the ability to pay rent at whatever officer rank you like)

2. You can choose not to permanently use items that generate rent.

Here's the list of base items that generate rent.


Storage Items
100 prestige (per bin)

Auto-Doc / Tree of Wonders
100 prestige

Combat Logs / Contemplation Charts
100 prestige

Robo-Surgery / Spirit Signal
100 prestige

Advanced Worktable / Advanced Forge
100 prestige

Expert Worktable / Expert Forge
100 prestige

Robotic Fabricator / Flames of Hephaestus
100 prestige

Radiation Emulator / Enchanting Crucible
100 prestige

Linear Accelerator / Arcane Crucible
200 prestige

Supercollider / Mystic Crucible
300 prestige


Now here's a little secret. You will learn that some base items like Teleport pads require the use of worktables to create them. Worktables generate rent.

However . . . You don't need to keep worktables after you are done creating things for the base. You can sell the worktable back for the same amount of prestige you paid for it. It works like this.

1. Buy worktable
2. Craft what you need
3. Sell the worktable
4. You don't get charged rent for the worktable


Now if you wanted to make a base for the extra storage then you have a problem. You have to either be a VIP, or invite a VIP to the SG who can pay rent.

Why? Well the reason is that the devs maintain that SG's (and subsequently bases) are intended to be multiple player content. And as such SG base storage is not intended to be used as extra personal storage. So if a person wants to create a solo SG/base and use all it's features he has to be a VIP.

None of the players like this, but the devs have refused to compromise so far.


Something else to consider when deciding if you want to temporarily upgrade to VIP in order to create an SG. You will unlock a lot of other features permanently thru the Paragon Rewards you'll get. You won't lose access to them if you drop back to Premium.

• Access to Tell, Supergroup, and Coalition channels
• Mail system access
• Player to player trading
• Increased Influence caop of 500 million per character
• Play Mission Architect stories (no rewards drop at this level)
• +2 salvage inventory
• +1 Recipe inventory
• Access to the Trench Coats costume piece
• 1 Tailor token
• Experienced Temproary Power with 5 charges
• Trustworthy badge

Hope this info helps encourage you to at least temporarily upgrade to VIP status.

Thanks for responding and clearing up the confusion I was having about your post. To be honest I thought there might be a remote possibility you were making a judgement based on the difference between both your and toasts forum reg dates. It doesn't happen often but it does pop up occasionally. Very glad to hear that wasn't the case.

I can understand why you can get frustrated by the generalizations, but please keep in mind that part of the reason they get made is because being more specific can bring down the wrath of the Mods. So someone will say Prems or Freems instead of Player A, B and C. I honestly think people only mean to include the group of players making the complaints rather than sweeping all Freems/Prems under the same umbrella.

I do boycott build nazi's (with 1 star and notes) and quit teams whenever I encounter them. The trouble is most people don't either because they don't know about it, or they think it's too much effort to bother with it.

You can't force people to educate themselves on game mechanics, or use the tools at their disposal.



Yes. The devs have already altered game mechanics based on the behavior of individuals abusing game features. Why would they stop now?

1. RMT spam motivated the devs to implement draconian restrictions on chat channels, SG membership, Email access, etc.

2. AE exploit abusers motivated the devs to implement changes to the Mission Architect.

Seriously? Because if the majority of Veteran/VIP's avoid it like the plague and complain about it being too hard and ambush happy, then obviously the new/F2P players will get the wrong idea about the difficulty of the rest of the game from their first impression and stop playing.

And the devs are perfectly aware how desolate Praetoria is from their datamining, It isn't a case of a small group of disgruntled loudmouths venting on the forums.

And I think you are naive if you honestly think there aren't a lot of build nazi's in this game.

I hate to break the news to you but Praetoria was a ghost town long before the game went F2P.

I only mention this because I just saw this happen in January. If it is a gift card the OP is referring to, does it have Visa/Mastercard on it or is it a store specific gift card.

I was in a checkout line a few people behind a woman who went ballistic when she learned that the grocery store wouldn't accept her Best Buy gift card to pay for groceries.