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No they weren't exclusive. The devs have made it crystal clear that the only items that were and continue to be exclusive are the Collector's Edition perks.

That exclusivity is the reason we keep being told they won't sell them on the market or add them to the rewards tree.

I don't recall where I read it but the devs tol people asking that they can'tchange the system to let us choose which token we want.

If that's true there shouldn't be any problems with them adding new tokens we can get each month.

Never said it was a bad idea. I just don't see it as necessary. There are already plenty of alternate ways to get salvage in the game so I don't see the necessity of developing yet another.

#2 and #3 would be the best way to go.

Personally I'd like to see the stipend increased to 500 points. 400 irritates me, but that's a personal issue. I get that it's equal to spending $5 bucks but I simply believe a dollar should be worth 100 points.

I'd also like to see the Stipend bonus increase based on the number of years your account has been active. Start at 150 as per the reward tree but kick it up a small amount each year say 10 to 25 points. (personally I'd prefer 25)

Add a Rename Token, and a Respec token to the monthly VIP perks. If they feel Monthly is too frequent for the respec token do it quarterly, biannually, or even yearly.

For me Exalted was a chance to get some names I wanted that were unavailable on the other servers.

You didn't put your foot in your mouth at all. We have no idea at all if the devs are going to do the same brief free giveaway promotion with the Staff pack that they did with the Titan Weapons pack.

The Titan Weapon pack was offered for free to everyone for a week maybe two at the most. After the giveaway it was sold for 250-300 points.

If the devs choose to run the same promotion as before, Yippee! for us.

If not, the crybabies will just have to get over it. The devs aren't obligated to offer everything for free before putting the official price tag on it.

Our devs give out the standard industry monthly stipend, and charge less for server transfers than many MMO's charge for the same service which is around $25 bucks.

So no matter what the devs decide to charge there will always be someone complaining that the price is too expensive.

If they can make it work, instead of making names look ugly by ading globals or something I'd like a simple home server title added under or above each name.

ROFLMAO! Well at least you've dated yourself on how long it's been since you've played the game. Or at least how long it's been since you've done anything with bases which would be December 2, 2008 when the current base rent went into effect.

Original Rent System

The original base rent system was both a rent and a tax. While the exact calculation is unknown for several parts of this formula,
(X * Z) + Y = rent

X = total amount of unspent prestige sg currently has as corresponding to a look up table. Ex: 10,000 free prestige would be 2, and 13,000 would be 3

Z = total number of objects subjectable to the tax (ex: control items, power items.. this excludes most decorations)

Y = rent charged per plot size + rent per room

The Table used in the Y portion of the equation is currently unknown, but most likely is similar to the calculations made in the second rent system, just at a larger amount.

The X amount can be lowered down to 0, thus avoiding the tax portion of equation provided the base architect has kept a good track of when the base rent will be calculated, and spends all loose prestige ahead of time.


Second Rent System

Base Rent was calculated solely on your plot size. The larger the plot, the larger the rent. Secure plots also paid more rent, due to the number of defenses they are allowed to have. The intent was that if they were re-introduced, Items of Power would reduce the amount of Rent due.


Tiny Hidden Spot 8x8 0

Small Hidden Spot 8x12 20,000

Hidden Spot 12x12 43,000

Small Secret Location 12x16 65,000

Secret Location 16x16 105,000

Large Secret Location 16x20 145,000

Small Secure Location 12x16 200,000

Small Hidden Complex 20x20 200,000

Hidden Complex 20x24 280,000

Large Hidden Complex 24x24 350,000

Secure Location 16x16 420,000

Massive Hidden Complex 24x28 610,000

Large Secure Location 16x20 750,000

Small Secure Complex 20x20 1,300,000

Secure Complex 20x24 2,100,000

Large Secure Complex 24x24 3,200,000

Massive Secure Complex 24x28 5,000,000


Current Rent System

Beginning in Issue 13, base rent is calculated based on the number of a few specific items placed in a base. Plot size and security/hidden status no longer have any effect on rent. Please note that Items of Power no longer provide Upkeep bonuses under this new system.


Storage Items (per bin) 100 prestige

Auto-Doc / Tree of Wonders 100 prestige

Combat Logs / Contemplation Charts 100 prestige

Robo-Surgery / Spirit Signal 100 prestige

Advanced Worktable / Advanced Forge 100 prestige

Expert Worktable / Expert Forge 100 prestige

Robotic Fabricator / Flames of Hephaestus 100 prestige

Radiation Emulator / Enchanting Crucible 100 prestige

Linear Accelerator / Arcane Crucible 200 prestige

Supercollider / Mystic Crucible 300 prestige

And imagine how happy people will be when they transfer back to their home server to find the name they had has been taken while they were away.

The biggest complaint about SG/Bases made by Free/Prem players over the past year is their inability to pay rent and being locked out of creating solo bases, and everything they desperately want solo bases for is locked behind rent.

If all they want is a base with teleports and a medbay they are good to go, but we all know what their pissed off about is not having solo storage bases.

I didn't think you were talking about me. There is in every game a group of players that badmouth anything that isn't that particular game. I assumed that you were referring to them.

Now if it was WoW players I'd agree that a big portion of the complaints are from them, but here, Even if every single player behaved that way we'd still be in the minority. Our fanbase simply isn't that big.

That and the customer service was nonexistant.

The number of die hard CoH fans that would bad mouth SWTOR because it isn't this game is a drop in the bucket compared to the people that are unhappy with how that game turned out, and not all of the people complaining have cancelled their subs. There's no way for us to tell how many active subscribers over there are just as dissatisfied as the roughly 1.7 milion that left.

I honestly doubt that the number of CoH fanbois that are badmouthing that game make up 1% of the dissatisfied playerbase.

Wrong.

Supergroups and bases were always available to Premium players. It was the Freemium players that were locked out and recently allowed to join.

SG membership/bases is still useless to Fremium/Premium players because they still need a VIP to pay rent because all the important base features incur a monthly rental fee per item.

And if a Prem or Freem can't pay rent not only does the power go out (so they won't be able to use teleporters or med bays), but they eventually can't enter the base at all.

No the devs set let te free players in the bases so they could see just what they are missing with the account restrictions at just the right spot to either encourage subscription or force free playrs to socialize with VIP's and use bases as group content like the devs intended.

You for the magic carpet?


What the heck does that even mean?

I agree that's very unlikely to happen. However a properly made MMO based on an IP with a fanbase in the tens of millions could be made that could rival the 800 lb gorilla.

Unfortunately for SW and ST fans no one has made a proper MMO for those IP's yet, and with the poor showing that's been made by the half pancaked MMO's that were made its unlikely a proper MMO will ever get made.

I agree they couldn't have beaten WoW the first year or even the second or third, but if the game had been what was hyped and promised there could have been two giant gorillas.

If they had actually delivered what they promised they could have been the next giant gorilla.

No. What makes their failure all the more humiliating is that they promised their customers the world but released a product that looks like it was developed and launched back in 2004.

No the devs haven't changed how things are handled, if they had there would have been a big announcement and everyone would have been talking about it in dozens of threads.

Yep. My own annual date is way off by at least 6 months because of the editions and expansions I bought for the extra free months they came with.

Kangstor is simply wrong about his assumption that the monthly stipend counts toward additional Paragon Reward Tokens.

For the same reasons Perfect Pain bought a lifetime sub to a game she proclaimed she hated.

It's always possible that whomever it was that wrote the code didn't leave on the best of terms and took/destroyed his/her notes when he/she left and wouldn't return or offer to help if this was the last video game on the planet.


I know I left a couple of jobs like that, and I've gotten to enjoy watching a couple of backstabbing supervisors go down in flames after I got sick of them taking credit for my efforts and I left them swinging in the wind in front of their bosses after I left.

Especially if you pay attention to what salvage drops from which opponents and focus on fighting the ones that drop what you need.