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Quote:So what?Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
I can start teams and send tells perfectly fine in two of the F2P games I have played. Both have VIP options as well.
I'm an F2P player on one game that prevents me from leveling past 10.
I'm an F2P player on two other games that put a severe limit on how much gold a character can carry as opposed to the VIPs who can have unlimited wealth.
Our F2P model doesn't do either so ours is no better or worse than others in the industry. -
Quote:That other game did the day they launched and smacked everyone with that stealth nerf. Having to refund hundreds if not thousands of lifetime subs started them on the slide to oblivion.Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
I'd rather CoH had an abrupt but dignified death rather than some prolonged half-life existence as a nickle and dimeing MMO where it just sullies it's own name and eventually peters out.
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Quote:You are correct sir.Originally Posted by SkyStreak_TM
Near as I can tell, all you have to do to make the jump from Free to Premium is spend money once on the game.
So if you are a free player and want to join an SG, just cough ip $5 or so for Paragon Points and use them on something cool, and join whatever SG you want. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Clouded
Quick question...
As a premium player, will I be able to send tells and use the global channels I use now?
There ya go. Hope it helps. -
Quote:Shshsh.Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Um... I did look at that list, before you posted it. In reply to me saying:
and then you replied saying the exact same thing I said??
I'm confused.
I reiterated what was said in the hopes it will sink into the OP's skull if he ever decides to return to the thread. Hopefully if he thinks the posts are directed at someone else he'll be more receptive to the truth.
Don't tell him tho.
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Quote:Yeah that's a monthly Vet Reward for keeping your account active, and Vet's are going to be earning that reward for several months before the game goes F2P as long as they keep their accounts active.Originally Posted by Braije
So far, PP=400 per month for VIP's
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Quote:Yes but if you look at that list I posted it clearly shows that NO ONE is getting Going Rogue for free.Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Well yes, but from what I understand that applies to anyone who has ever spent any money on the game at all (including just subscribing for 1 month).
Free players are paying for it.
Premium players are paying for it.
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Quote:Originally Posted by rsclark
For free players, it's going to be their only option. This is really bothering me. If I were to start playing this game knowing nothing about it, then upon making a character, I found I had no tools at my disposal to form a group or do anything other than stand around (probably under a statue in Atlas) and use local chat to locate people, it would not make me enjoy the game.
The free version of the game is one that you would have to pay me to play. I fail to see how it will be an effective advertisement for the game. After that pathetic sample experience, why would anyone decide to give the company money?
Our F2P restrictions are no more or less limiting than the restrictions other MMO's that have gone F2P have and they have plenty of free players and their games suck compared to CoH. -
Then maybe the devs should consider making a version of IO's that are similar to the ones customers got that bought the GR edition from Gamestop.
Purchased IO's can only be used on the character they are bought on. They cannot be traded to other players or emailed to other characters on the same account.
If not reslotted during a respec they are automatically deleted.
This will ensure that RMTers can't abuse them, as well as ensure that players that want to buy them will have to buy more if they make a new character or if they frequently make changes to their builds.
Or they can choose not to buy microtransaction IO's and earn the regular IO's we have in the game with all the perks that come with them. -
I wish the PvP population the best of luck even tho I don't like PvP.
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Quote:And none of that changes the fact that we know that players that get everything they want instantly without earning it get bored and leave. The devs know they can't make money off of people that aren't playing.Originally Posted by Braije
This goes for the players as well as the developers. The dev's I feel are working well to give us more upcoming content to run those choose to 'UP' and subscribe.
I'm sorry AE/MA was/is an abused model, because you had tons of ppl wanting to be PL'd and a player base unwilling to do so endlessly.( AE/MA = the n00b factory) Otherwise, there would still not be Mods stopping in there on occasion to make sure no exploits were being abused. If this wasn't obvious to them, then they wouldn't have cut off F2P access to it as well as broadcast. Premium to get gain access to access certain things, correct? That's pay to play as well!
They gave players the tools to exploit, and sadly it took away quality time because people are always gonna try to find cheats and loopholes. However, I applaud what I am hearing on Ustream from Paragon Studios and glad to see this new feature coming to light. Ideals don't pay the bills, good business and revenue generation does. -
Quote:Vet Rewards will still nedd to be earned with account loyalty. The only differences are thatOriginally Posted by Braije
IndeeHowever, to pick and choose even through vet rewards I would have had to earn with a loyal subscription is not that very different from saying, "Hmm I believe I'll buy some infu/infamy today". As vet rewards are an earned thing, thus to is infamy/influ or recipes/IO's.
1. Instead of being restricted to receiving a specific reward at a specific time we will have the freedom to pick the rewards we want most first.
2. Veterans that take advantage of paying for their account a year in advance will have the additional reward of getting their Vet Reward points to spend immediately. Why is that fair you ask? Simply because paying a year in advance is a risk. The game can shut down a week after they pay for their account and they won't get a refund. -
Quote:No it's not. It's a fact. We already saw what happens when brand new players were able to get near instantanous 50's when the Mission Architect was released. The majority of them never resubbed after their free month expired.Originally Posted by Braije
And of course not, that's assumption.
We've seen the NCSoft financial reports that verify it. -
Quote:They also get the benefit of automatically becoming Premium Players if they let their account lapse.Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Quoting myself, because I made a mistake.
GR Purchasers do get something for having bought it. If we ever decide to not subscribe, we keep full access to GR content (under same circumstances, other people still have to pay for it). Thats pretty descent, not that I plan to ever let my sub lapse.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nightphall
*sigh*
I swear I see a rant like this every single time a game goes Free To Play.Quote:Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
You had it for a full year before anyone got it free. That's what you paid for.
They did the same thing with City of Villains actually.
You should have expected this to happen.
TLDR; you get nothing.
I don't think he was here a year ago. I think he may be a new player that's having buyers remorse because if he waited a few more months he could play for free, but thems the breaks. -
Quote:Originally Posted by REDRUM
I dont like how everyone gets GR free. I payed for my GR and i think we should get are money back or a free month of game play or something. Its not right to have people pay for somthing then just give it out free to everyone
Thats BS and thay need to do something for the people who payed for it.Quote:Originally Posted by EU_Damz
By the time Freedom comes to live and VIPs get the GR package, the expansion pack would have been live for roughly year and a half.
CoV became free roughly two years after launching i believe? So we knew it was a matter of time before they gave GR for free, plus if you are that bothered about it think of it like this . . . .
You will have had months [possibly year at least depending when you bought it] of incarnates/praetoria/rogue fun well before the Freedom peeps.
The CoV expanshalone launched October 27, 2005. You couldn't play blueside unless you bought it seperately or vice versa.
The Good Vs Evil edition that combined CoH and CoV in the same package launched September 29, 2006.
That's 1 year later. Not really a big difference between that and this.
Edit: However I think it's possible the OP is having buyers remorse. I think it's possible he's a brand new player that is upset because he just found out that if he waited a few months he could have been playing the game for free instead of buying it. -
Quote:/thisOriginally Posted by Father Xmas
The VIP server is simply a new server. You will have to transfer characters to it the same way characters are transferred today, with all the consequences that go with it.
It's going to be no different than moving characters from Pinnacle to Infinity. -
Quote:Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
(It's fairly clear that this is going to be the holy war of COHF2P.)
I doubt it. Judging from past experinces with our community the nerdrage will peter out in about a month at most and only flare up in the occasional short lived thread when some nut wants to vent his spleen. -
Quote:That may be the case in other games but here in CoH the community's first impression is made in the Broadcast channel. Broadcast is zonewide while you have to be standing next to the person being a jerk in local.Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Unfortunately, the first impression a server's community makes on an individual player is often the local channel.
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It takes at most 1 second to realize a recipe someone is thinking of deleting is purple and skip over it. If someone thinks 1 second is time consuming then this isn't the game for them. Hello Kitty Online is down the hall and on the left.
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Quote:Because the free accounts only have access to local and team channels, nothing else. The local channel can simply be dropped from your chatbox and you'll never see any spam. If you invite an RMTer to your team and he starts spamming then kick him.Originally Posted by LittleDavid
I don't necessarily have a problem with this new Freemium announcement, but there is one thing that is really worrying me.
RMT Spambots.
What's going to keep them from setting up in popular areas and flooding local or broadcast with advertisements at five lines a second?
(Yes, I have seen this. In multiple MMOs. I am NOT exaggerating.) -
Quote:Originally Posted by sleestack
"In front of you is a small, 4-acre park. In the middle of the park is a statue of what appears to be a wizard."
"OK, we enter the park and slowly approach the statue.
*Dice roll* "With a grinding of stone on stone, and a horrible moaning that seems to echo from the depths of hell, the statue begins to come to life! It blasts a cone of greyish energy at you!"
"...Saving Throw! I make a Saving Throw!"
Shoooooot! I ain't afraid of no animated statue. It's those damn Gazebos that make me nervous. -
Quote:Reminds me of the time someone dared me to make character based on the name of a kitchen appliance. So I simply changed the spelling of the second word and instead of a Deep Fryer I now have the Deep Friar a philisophical monk who fights crime with his command of the fires of creation.Originally Posted by Ironik
So true. Since comic book superheroes originally derived from science fiction (Superman, Human Torch, Shock Gibson, Blue Beetle), pulp mystery (Batman, Crimson Avenger, The Clock, The Arrow) and fantasy (Doctor Occult, Namor, Zatara), even from the genre's earliest days almost any kind of name was appropriate.
I'm always amazed at how many pretty cool names are still out there. When I was making Quick Red Fox I had second thoughts on the name. "Sly Fox" was taken everywhere I looked (4 servers), but "Sky Fox" was free. Sky Fox is kind of a cool name, I think. I decided I preferred QRF, so stayed there, but there were plenty of other options still available for that general concept. And as you can see from that very short list of names above, descriptors are common and just sticking "Doctor" in any of its forms in front of your name is a tradition from Day One. (Literally. Siegel and Shuster's creation before Superman was Doctor Occult.) I have Doctor Omen on Virtue who's only a couple years old. I mean, seriously, nobody snapped up "Doctor Omen"?! That name is so awesome, I'm taking it with me wherever I go in the future.
And with the invention of Captain Marvel, you don't even have to be affiliated with any sort of armed forces or even a boat to call yourself "captain". How cool is that? Yeah, plenty of cool names left. It'll be a while before we have to resort to "Capt. Dr. X". -
Quote:So your complaint is that it was too realistic? That the show nailed the fact that people in general are sheep?Originally Posted by ProcessedMeatMan
And the people didn't seem all that concerned that they were being hunted by aliens. They walked about in daylight and set up huge tents cities within spitting distance of the giant mother-ship whateverthatthingwas. The whole thing seemed to defy common sense.
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Quote:If it helps this was the most recent reply from a redname on this topic.Originally Posted by ATOFelix
Code Rant, a new one on me
and i make the assumption based on knowing SOME things, granted not all so hence the question
but thankyou very much for your informative reply....
Quote:Originally Posted by mousedroid 
If SG/VG base transfers aren't possible, I have an idea - figure out a way to allow a one-way transfer of earned Prestige to go with any character transferred to the VIP server. We'd have to rebuild our bases, which would really stink for a lot of folks, but it would stink less than have to do so as well as start over at 0 prestige...
Quote:Originally Posted by Zwillinger
This is an excellent suggestion and one I will pass along.
It's better than nothing if they decide to do it.