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What you don't think that MMO players that are on tight budgets don't look at Lifetime Subs as a way to minimize their monthly expenditures over the long run? Sure it's $200-$300 up front today but after a year they are playing for free. And when compared to the $1260 I've spent keeping this account active. Yeah I'll find a way to scrape together the cash for an LTS somehow.
Many MMO players simply look at LTS's as a bargain that only costs the same as a years sub. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Moonlighter
Some kind of solution would be awesome.
They already have a solution, you just wish it was different. But who knows maybe someday they'll change their minds. -
Quote:Downloading the film and documenting when each scene starts and stops does not prove you actually "watched" the film.Originally Posted by Durakken
Green Lantern parts pertinent to the story they were trying to tell...
33:30 minutes
This excludes the party scene, Hammonds/Hal fight at cadmus, and Hammond/Hal talk-fight
Time devoted to Carol and Hal's relationship...
14 minutes
Time Devoted to Hammond... (and still badly developed)
32 minutes
Time spent with Kilowog...
2 minutes
How bout this ones... Scene time where scenes are not messed up in any way, either by acting, editing, writing, directing, bad story, or bad graphics...
2:15
I actually thought there'd be more than that but i guess not... there is a lot of really badly placed comedy, bad editing, and characters not acting right...
46 minutes could have been just removed...the Carol and Hammond scenes
here's the full time line
Spoilers
00:00 - 03:44 = Parallax intro
03:45 - 06:14 = Abin Sur's ship destroy
06:15 - 08:49 = Hal Jordan goes to work. Talk about the Sabers.
08:50 - 12:19 = Hal & Carol dog fight Sabers
12:20 - 13:38 = Hal has Flash backs
13:39 - 15:48 = Hal ejects and gets a lecture
15:49 - 16:28 = Abin sends ring to find new GL
16:29 - 19:17 = Hal goes home and has familly issues
19:18 - 21:34 = Hal is taken to Abin Sur and gets the ring
21:35 - 23:30 = Hal Jordan calls his friend and comedy routine ensues as getting chased away
23:31 - 25:19 = Sinestro talks to the Guardians
25:20 - 28:04 = Hammond called to Cadmus
28:05 - 28:33 = Hal tries to get the Lantern to activate
28:34 - 28:47 = Hammond disects abin
28:48 - 29:19 = Hal continues
29:20 - 29:29 = Hammond continues
29:30 - 30:03 = Hal continues
30:04 - 30:11 = Hammond continues
30:12 - 30:49 = Hal continues and Carol shows up and they go out to drink
30:50 - 31:45 = Hammond talks to Waller
31:46 - 34:32 = Hal and Carol at bar
34:33 - 36:20 = Hal leaves randomly and gets in a random fight where he activates the ring randomly and starts journey to Oa
36:21 - 36:36 = Hammond has nightmares
36:37 - 36:49 = Hal's journey continues
36:50 - 37:06 = Hammond washes face
37:07 - 37:35 = Hal's journey continues
37:36 - 39:30 = Hal is scanned Wakes up on Oa
39:31 - 45:49 = Tomar-Re takes Hal to Corp meeting hall
45:50 - 47:46 = Kilowog shows up and bullies Hal
47:47 - 50:30 = Sinestro bullies Hal
50:31 - 51:06 = Hal Returns to Earth
51:07 - 54:34 = Hammond teaches a class. Attacks a kid psychically on accident. Examins his blood. Meets with father
54:33 - 54:43 = Hal looks longingly outs a window
54:44 - 57:31 = GLC challenge Parallax and Sinestro talks to Guardians
57:32 - 64:17 = Party, Hammond accidentally causes accident. Hal saves day as GL
64:18 - 65:25 = Hammond goes home and has a headache
65:26 - 67:31 = Hal's friend shows up and demands to be shown GL stuff
67:32 - 71:35 = Hal goes to Carol's place
71:36 - 73:53 = Hammond is creepy outside of Carol's place and then goes to Cadmus
73:54 - 74:33 = Hal remembers what people said
74:34 - 79:35 = Hammond attacks Cadmus and Fights Hal
79:36 - 81:23 = Hal talks with carol and friend
81:24 - 81:37 = Parallax talks to Hammond
81:38 - 84:28 = Yellow ring forged. Hal talks to the Guardians.
84:29 - 91:20 = Hal returns to earth and fight-talks Hamond
90:21 - 96:30 = Hal fight Parallax
96:31 - 97:58 = Hal is saved and Sinestro gives a speech
97:59 - 99:57 = Hal/Carol kiss scene -
Quote:The side by side also says * subject to change by launch on the bottom.Originally Posted by Psylenz
On the side by side description, it appears premium has NO access to the global communication server and channels.
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Quote:F2P players aren't willing to spend anything. They want to play without making any financial commitment.Originally Posted by Braije
Hope half of the F2P players don't have this mentality.
Premium players are the ones willing to open their wallets. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
The best even the strongest, but not brain-dead skeptics, should be saying is "you'll see, come late 2012, you'll see."
But I guess that doesn't really have the same punch, does it.
Well after 7 years of Doomies predicting the game will fail 6 months later it's hard to find any skeptical prediction believable.
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Oh and technically there are no EU servers. A while back they were moved to the US, so all the servers have been NA servers for some time. They just finally merged the server lists recently. To everyones joy.
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Quote:Don't like it? Tough turnips.Originally Posted by Chocolate_Bacon
The guy admitted that something was his belief and that he had no hard data and you're asking him for unbiased sources?
That's like me saying "I believe in unicorns, no I don't have any proof." Then you're all like, "SHOW ME EVIDENCE," and I'm all like... "ASDFGHJK!"
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sermon
For a solid game, I think that offering lifetime subscriptions is a terrible idea at launch. For a bad game, they probably work out okay at launch.
Well there's no way to really know if a game will be a huge success at launch so a limited time offer of lifetime subs then can help a new game recoup its development costs faster.
A popular game will attract enough players to negate the longterm effects of the few lifetime subbers.
An unpopular game will go the route of a certain other super hero game we can't mention here. -
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the energy set originally a water set when the game was being developed?
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Quote:Please provide links to the unbiased third party company that interviewed the entire CoH community, and collated the datamining that proves beyond any shadow of doubt that the number of customers that would take advantage of a lifetime subscription is as you are claiming a small portion of the customer base.Originally Posted by Yellowbeard
I believe, in the absence of hard data, that the small portion of the COHF community that would take advantage of a lifetime subscription plan would not reach the point of negitive returns for the company.
<crickets>
Yeah that's what I thought. -
Quote:/help: Sewer team forming at the sewer entrance. If you are interested come on over and ask superdude for an invite. First come first served.Originally Posted by rsclark
Doesn't fix the problem of how I'm supposed to get them in a group with me.
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Quote:Nope. I was responding mockingly to another posters simplistic and nonsensical solution.Originally Posted by Ironblade
Simplistic and nonsensical question. You seem to be assuming that meeting someone in real life DOES let you know if you can trust them or not.
And if you read the rest of my responses you'd have seen I quite clearly said that at some point we have to trust people we invite into our SG's or we will soon find ourselves alone in solo SG's.Quote:1. Don't invite strangers
Exactly. That's why we lock our cars instead of leaving them unlocked. We know for a fact that the majority of people will walk right by our cars and never even think of breaking in. We know we can trust them but we lock them out anyway to prevent the handful of crooks from ripping us off because an unlocked car is a target of opportunity.Quote:Both in real life and online, you use your judgement. Yes, that will result in some SG's getting robbed. Guess what, people get robbed in real life by people they trust EVERY SINGLE DAY. -
Quote:And I don't see the logic in giving unlimited access to people that aren't subscribing to the game.Originally Posted by Auroxis
Sorry, I fail to see the logic in making someone pay to be able to talk to people. To experience new content, yes they should definitely pay. To talk to their friends and potential friends in-game? Nope, they should be able to do that regardless.
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So keep your account active?
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I'm surprised that none of the bleeding hearts haven't called me a monster because RMTers are chinese politacal prisoners that are being forced to play MMO's and my idea will prevent them from making their quotas and result in them getting beaten by the guards.
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Quote:Not making the devs do work to accomplish a task that whose end result already exists in the game is a win/win for me. That means they can dedicate their time and resources on something else that isn't in the game yet.Originally Posted by Auroxis
Not letting new players join social networks is a win for you?
And this.Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
New players can join social networks. They just have to prove they won't abuse the privilege by making an investment in the game: either an investment of time or an investment of money. Once they've put down the security deposit, the doors to the social networks start to open. -
Quote:I was wondering if anyone would catch how I worded that.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Somehow, being called the most intelligent thing since baked dough doesn't sound like all that much of a compliment.
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Quote:Or the devs can leave it as it is which requires no additional work and accomplishes the same thing cuz if they can't join an SG they can't be promoted.Originally Posted by Auroxis
This is why I suggested that free players be allowed to enter SG's, but will not be eligible for promotions. Also, seeing as he had 3 weeks invested in the SG, it seems like limiting trial players away from SG's would not have helped stop that particular theft.
Win/Win
Edit: Also just after the Super Leader rank went live there were a few disputes where a couple trusted leaders stole SG's when they got automatically promoted by being the last/first person to logon/off. And there was one case where the new Super Leader kicked everyone from the SG and then quit himself so everything in the base was deleted. -
More access to channels seems like a good incentive to upgrade ones account/keep a current account active to me. If two people aren't on at the same time they won't show up in global channels anyway but they can send offline tells to get in touch.
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Quote:Ah. I see what your saying now. Thanks for clarifying that.Originally Posted by mousedroid
I don't either. In fact I'm all for it. What I'm asking for is that if someone else doesn't mind waiting 21 months (or whatever) to get that Samurai Armor, they have the option of doing so and getting it anyway so they can spend their Paragon Points on something else.
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Quote:Oh I admit I said that about F2P more than a few times myself a few years ago, but as time passed and subs slowly got lower it changed from it'll never happen, to I hope it never happens, to if it does happen I hope they blah blah blah.Originally Posted by BeastMan
I guess we'll see when it happens. I mean folks were all smarty-pants on the "this game will never have FTP" and look what just got announced. They have to draw in the subs and what better way to do it then unleash the unexpected!
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Quote:Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Instead of silly little Rularuu the Ravager, how about something more fearsome?
Perhaps send in an AV class Willy Wheeler or Hero class Fusionette? Or an AV class Rikti Monkey who will then collapse in front of the spammer and fwoof him to death.
I suggested Rularuu the Ravaber simply because
1. he's the biggest AV in the game, so his appearance wouldn't be missed
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2. They wouldn't have to create something from scratch to do it. -
Quote:First off thanks for taking time to clarify your question.Originally Posted by je_saist
You completely missed the point I was making to Yellowbeard.
Let me pose the question another way:
What players wanting a life-time-subscription asking for?- Is it to play the game without charge?
- Or is it to get all the bonus's of playing the game without charge?
Depending on your vet status you "probably" aren't loosing anything that you've already gained in game.
And if anything you may be able to save some cash just buying new staff out of Paragon Points.
Now, if a person is looking to get all of the bonus's for having a subscription without paying the costs of a subscription... now we are back to why Life-time Subscription are a BAD FINANCIAL IDEA.
An idea that has been shot down by anybody who has participated in Economics 001. Not necessarily graduated mind you... but participated.
Now I'm pretty confident we can assume that the answer people will give to your question is the second one and I agree that it's a bad financial idea unless there are extreme restrictions as to whom it is offered as well as only for a limited time frame. -
Quote:Wrong.Originally Posted by Reiska
Perhaps this is because they can't talk.
Until the game goes F2P there has been nothing preventing trial users from posting on the forums. Many have posted asking various questions and gotten answers from our friendly community.
So please post links to the threads where they have complaind on the forums about the trial account restrictions. I can't remember seeing any and would appreciate seeing them if I missed them.