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What you say is true but there's also the argument that if a person buys the boosters that are currently available now, then they will be able to spend that 1200 or so free points on something else when Freedom goes live.

In either case it's still a win win situation.

Please pay attention to what I wrote. I didn't say that you were suggesting that. I said that is what the devs will do if they switch to a global storage from what they have now. From day one they have been against letting us hoard items. Any type of global storage will have a very small storage capacity.

Every step forward in storage has come at a price.

When the devs removed the 60 day limit on the Market so we could use it as storage it came at the price of market slots. The more we store at the market the less slots we have for transactions.

I13 the devs chopped the base salvage storage bins from 2,500 to 30.

When they added the ability to send email attachments they set the limit at 1 item per email with a cap of 20 emails.

We'd be lucky if we got 20-50 slots for the entire account and then they'd most likely take something we currently have away from us or reduce it drastically.

My guess is that they'd nail the Vault. So instead of being able to store 50 odd items per character we'd only be able to store 20-50 in it for the entire account.

So after seeing what the devs have done to improve our storage capacity in the past I don't want them even thinking about global storage.

Thanks Snow. I just hit 84 months this month so, "Yippee!" Even if I'm not eligible when it goes live I'll be close enough to taste it.


That's what I figured but it didn't hurt to ask if anyone heard otherwise.

The last time the devs tweaked how much universal storage we could have was in bases where they gutted salvage bins and reduced our storage capacity from 2,500 per bin to 30 per bin.

There is no way in hell the devs would ever give us a global storage even remotely close to what we currently have.

Using badges, vet reward, and temp powers each character can carry roughly

Inspiration slots - 20
Invention Salvage slots - 65
Recipe Slots - 25
CH Transaction slots - 22 which can hold stacks of 10 recipes and salvage for a total of 220
Vault - 50

Email - 20 global slots

So if you multiply those number by the number of characters slots we can have on an account when Freedom launches (16 servers)

VIP Account (192-576 characters)

Inspiration slots - 3,840/11,520
Invention Salvage slots - 12,480/37,440
Recipe Slots - 4,800/14,400
CH Transaction slots - 4,224/12,672 (then in stacks of 10) 42,240/126,720
Vault - 9,600/28,800

So no thank you to any "global storage" idea. I much prefer a little extra work verses having my ability to store tens of thousands of items castrated.

So if I'm reading this correctly then anyone that has over 81 months of vet rewards when Freedom goes live will automatically be getting the additional 150 PPs?

Another question comes to mind.

If N equals 81 months does that mean that the players with 81+ months vet rewards at the start of July of 2010 will be accruing 550 PPs credit instead of 400 like everyone else with an active account.

It's just idle curiosity. I really don't care if we don't, I'm grateful to be getting the 400 PPs credit per month. I'd just like to keep the numbers straight.

Well if the mods have any backbone they'll fix his problems for him by banning his account. I can't begin to guess how many petitions his use of the "C" word in that thread has generated. Women really take offense when those particular four letters are put together in that order.

Dude this is the internet. You know that will never happen.

I missed something. Is there any clue as to which veterans will be getting 550 PPs?

I got that feeling from his first post as well when I saw that his complaints had nothing to do with Praetoria.

As I recall both sides had to agree to the raid. You couldn't just drop in unannounced and tear **** up. But my memory on that could be faulty.

You can believe whatever you like but it doesn't change the fact that it isn't the games fault when a player tries to claim things when their trays are full. It's not the games fault if a player disables the warnings that are there to let him or her know their trays are full. Nor is it the games fault if a player doesn't see the warning because they are too tired, or not paying attention for any number of reasons.

They can't. Any edition whose retail code offers unique ingame items can't be locked out by another edition.

He was making a point that the numbers the OP used were uhm overly pessimistic. He wasn't suggesting it was or wasn't worth converting.

That's a matter of personal opinion. We have a whole community that loves their bases.

I don't think you'll find anyone that's happy with it.

I'm glad you brought this example up Sam because it's the same thing we see every single time a new powerset is introduced to the game. There's always one person that wants to be able to change his powerset choices or even his AT because the new powerset fits his character concept better.


And we all have seen how effective that argument has been.

Why do you care since you've already indicated that your going to go to the VIP server.

Oh stop being melodramatic. No one needs 30 million prestige to make a fully functional base.

Sure thing, since you were polite about it.




There's the very enhancement full warning the game has that automatically checks to see if our trays are full and warn us.

If we choose to disable it or ignore it then it's our own fault when we get burned.

The game does check to see if your inventory is full and it gives you a warning.

It isn't the games fault if you turned it off or ignored it. That's all on you. So like I said you have no one to blame but yourself.

Same here. I'd hit a miners strike in Sharkhead and have all my tips in less than 15 minutes. Drop the mission difficulty to the lowest setting and plow thru the tips and morality in an hour or so total of game time.

4 hours of game time isn't a big deal.

It wasn't a bug or a flaw in game design. The devs chose to restrict AT's to specific factions, and when players found a way to do it anyway they went into the code and blocked it so it couldn't happen again.

I know because I was in the same Virtue SG as Saros the heroic Brute. I always got a kick out of seeing a new person at a Hami raid trying to figure out how a brute got there.

The OP hasn't been gone that long. I checked his post history and he had an active account in Sept 2010. He may be one of those players that takes frequent breaks from the game since I can see he has been posting for a few months every year since 2005.

So he's been around long enough to know how SG's work and his account was active when I14 went live and the Super Leader rank was introduced.


If the OP really wanted to make sure that SG was in his control when he returned after his latest hiatus he should have turned it into a solo SG before leaving.

Personally I take precautions one step further and look for the words factory sealed.

But why bother loading the old disc. Just download the most current version from here.

http://www.cityofheroes.com/account/...of_heroes.html