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Pointing out the simple fact that prestige has no meaning other than how much income a base has to spend on does not remotely equate to hate.

That can be solved by changing the Prestige column to an SG Mode column and simply listing the words On or Off according to their SG mode setting.

You wish the facts could be dismissed that easily.

Sure as long as the test server is restricted to VIP players. Why? Simply because if they let free players access to items that have to be purchased on the live servers they will simply play only on the test server.

VIP's are already making a financial commitment and will be less likely to use the test server as a way to get access to stuff without paying for it.

I need to see all the new stuff being added before I make any commitments. I already have all the existing booster items.

/This.

It's much easier to do that in real life than on the internet. I've long past the point of trying anymore and accepting that people will feel whatever they want regardless of your intentions. That comes from a mix of experience and old age but I accept blame for my own part in the attitude.

I guess I'm abrasive like sand paper. Ya don't want to wipe your butt with it but it sure can smooth the rough edges off of things.


Edit: Just to clarify on when I said, "I've long past the point of trying anymore" It's because I came to the conclusion that it's an exercise in futility.

You have valid points but from my perspective my pessimism allows me to be pleasantly surprised and even thrilled when what the devs give us is better than what I anticipated and merely resigned instead of outraged when they don't.

When life hands you lemons make lemonade and when it hands you limes cut them into slices and stick'em in your beer.

In my prediction they didn't remove the Vault Reserve storage completely. Instead of having 50 available for each character they would change it to 50 global slots for the account.

This would be no more drastic a change than when they reduced the SG salvage bin storage capacity from 2,500 to 30.


We don't have enough information yet to know what that means. That could simply be the name they gave to the 66 month vet reward that awards +5 salvage inventory slots.

66 Month Rewards

• Enduring Badge
• +5 Salvage Inventory Slots
• +5 Recipe Inventory Slots
• +1 Auction House Inventory Slot

Under the new system they can break down the vet rewards into a whole lot of individual perks.

NEWSFLASH!

dit dit dit ditdit dit dit dit . . . Individual Prestige Earned does NOT represent how much time and effort a player puts into the game. Any SG member can easily get a high individual prestige earned by simply going to the SG Registrar and converting inf to prestige.

Individual earned prestige means squat.

The thing is that if they go that route they will probably decide on the upper limit that they will allow and break it down into purchases accordingly.

For example

Say they pick 50 as the over all limit. They would then probably make the initial global inventory 10 or 20 slots with the option to buy extra slots in groups of 5 or maybe even 10 up to the maximum of 50.

And there's still a good chance that they'd still take something away from us in the process. I'm betting on the Vault Reserve because it's already set up with several access locations and it wouldn't break their rule on not letting us store recipes, which is another unilateral decision many players don't like.

Yeah I never understood the need for the timer. We have filters that can block gold farmers and spammers. And there's a simple solution to blocking friends and SGmates from spamming you which is kicking them off your friends list or SG.

Those who cannot . . . Oh damn Captain Photon beat me to it.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
- George Santayana (1863-1952), The Life of Reason Volume One: Reason in Common Sense, 1905

Boo hoo. Their game their rules. The devs frequently make unilateral decisions that the players don't like and refuse to explain themselves. They have no obligation to cater to our childish whims no matter how petulantly we whine about it. Deal with it.

Yes it will. When Freedom goes live Free players will only get 2 character slots and no email access.

Premium players will only get 2 character slots plus however many slots they purchased or unlocked.

Only VIP's will retain their 12 slots per server, all the extra slots they purchased or unlocked, and they will be given an additional 12 free slots and the ability to buy 24 more via the new VIP server.

See above, Their game their rules.

Welcome to the world of MMO's. Yes it will happen again. it happens constantly in every MMO. Get used to it. The devs will always implement policies unilaterally and someone or some group will always feel they are being shafted because of that policy.

The devs do what they feel is best for the game and the direction they want to take it in. That means that there will always be people that disagree and feel like they are being screwed.

Well to be accurate profanity has always been against the rules, it's just that the enforcement of them has become much more draconian.

Which is why NCSoft's EULA mentions copyright and trademark rights separately as well as regular IP rights. They are protecting themselves and putting us on notice about using names, costumes, bio's, AE missions . . . the works.

/This.

According to the above rules of the EULA we aren't allowed to use

1. Peoples names, meaning famous people.
2. A third parties Trademark, Copyright, or other IP right.
3. Anything being used officially by an NCSoft employee.
4. Anything vulgar or offensive.


I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it, just providing the info so the OP is aware of what is and isn't allowed.


Oh and it doesn't matter how long a person has had a character name. It can be genericed at any time. If you had a character name that isn't allowed for a while it just means you managed to stay under the radar for that long without getting brought to a GM's attention. It doesn't mean you have a right to keep the name.

Personal storage is already independent of SG's/bases. The Vault Reserve locations are as follows.

Hero Locations


Paragon City Vault Reserve


Atlas Park East and a bit north of the entrance to the Sewer Network. Coordinates: (-182.5, 0.0, 794.4) Kings Row South of Wentworth's, or east of the Base Portal. Coordinates: (-1316.0, 0.0, 1799.5) Steel Canyon Southwest of the south Paragon City Monorail station. Coordinates: (-4234.7, 0.0, 2427.5) Talos Island Due north of Wentworth's. Coordinates: (-646.0, 160.0, 6646.5) Pocket D Located on the hero side, downstairs. Coordinates: (17.2, 0.0, -1340.0) Villain Locations


Rogue Isles Vault Reserve


Cap au Diable East of the Base Portal, or north of the Black Market. Coordinates: (386.0, 15.4, -1504.0) Mercy Island East of the Black Market. Coordinates: (-2265.2, 239.0, 996.2) Sharkhead Isle Southeast of the entrance to Pocket D. Coordinates: (386.5, 32.0, -772.5) St. Martial West of the Hospital. Coordinates: (-1593.9, 16.0, 409.6) Pocket D Located in the villain side, downstairs. Coordinates: (-220.3, 0.0, -798.1) Praetoria Locations

Vaults in Praetoria are located in the "Imperial Bank of Praetoria" or the Storage Assistant in the Underground zones.
Nova Praetoria West-southwest of the Monorail station Coordinates: (-3753, 23, 646) Imperial City East of the Trading House Coordinates: (-2166, -19, 948) Neutropolis Northwest of the Monorail station Coordinates: (2707, -60, 795) Underground Nova Southeast corner of the Resistance Hub Coordinates: (-4184, 508, -267) Underground Imperial Central section of the Resistance Hub Coordinates: (-840, 332, -3334) Underground Neutropolis Southeast corner of the Resistance Hub Coordinates: (23, -1220, -1565)

Not a problem here. It's not like I can't simply take the stuff I have stored in my base an email it to my other characters. SG storage doesn't come remotely close to what we can store on an account using alts as storage mules.


My only concern is that I hope the devs would consider compensating Super Leaders with pre-existing bases that get wiped so they don't have to start from scratch with the new system.

Sorry but that's total bull. If they were separate games how were players able to create characters and "accidentally" be sent to the wrong faction? Many vet Virtue players remember going on blueside Hami raids with Saros an elec/elec Brute. I was in the same SG with him. I also recall doing a sewer run in AP with a Ninja MM named Master of Assassins.

If the games were truly separate players wouldn't have been able to do that and the devs wouldn't have been forced to rewrite the code to stop people from making heroic villains and villainous heroes.