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As long as it's not the ERPer's.

(Death by guys pretending to be catgirls. <shudders>)

Only if the player is

1. In some rare cases stupid
2. More often lazy
3. Just plain stubborn
4. Any combination of 1, 2, and 3.

Yes. The need to see global names becomes exponentially greater if players can have the same character names. Popular names will be in use by dozens of players so without an easy way to get global names a victim won't be able to petition bannable behavior.

People acting like jacktards don't patiently stand next to you so you can get all their info and report them unless they are incredibly stupid.

So not only was Kirby fully aware of what he was doing he agreed to it each time he cashed his check.

It doesn't matter what a contract is written on. It could be written in crayon on toilet paper, as long as it's signed it's still valid.

I'm of mixed emotions on that. On one hand I'm pissed when I learn about that type of behavior going on in this game, but on the other hand I get sadistic glee when the jacktards get their accounts banned. The only thing that could make me happier would be to learn that the jacktards just dropped a lot of money buying stuff for the game.

For example I laughed so hard my sides hurt when a certain player in another MMO I play got banned for buying RMT while the game was still beta testing before it launched. He had been bragging on their forums about the different Pre-order perks and liftetime sub he bought (If true then he spent $300-$400 and another $200 for the LTS), then suddenly about a week or so before the game launched the RMT site hacked his account and started spamming their advertisements. His account was banned in a couple of hours.

If he can't use walk inside a mission it won't be active and prevent him from using a break free inspiration.

I don't feel I have to choose because I don't see it holding true for the entire thing. I see the PvE part of the game as constantly evolving into a better game with a few setbacks here and there like the problems with the MA.

But I don't see the same progress happening with PvP. Everything I saw and read has given me the impression that it has been a constant struggle to get it to work until they put it on the back burners with I13.



I'm sorry but it'll take something from the devs to convince me that 10% isn't a fair assessment of the PvP population.


It means players on different servers have different experiences. I recall seeing plenty of threads prior to I13 complaining they could never find anyone in the PvP zones on whatever server they were on.

And it didn't MATTER which server I was on.

As for "Zones" - they were in ALL the PVP zones. I could go from one group in BB to another group in SC to another in WB to yet another in RV and see mostly different people - in one night. [/quote]

I guess it's possible they were all liars. And when I was working on the SG badge to unlock the Dimensional Vortex power source (which was prior to I13) on Virtue I guess I had to run two accounts to earn the PvP kills because the other PvPers were hiding from me.


Wasn't arguing about the difficulty involved in learning how PvP works in this game just stating that new players will always have to learn a new system.


Personal experience and what I read on the forums in posts made by rational respectable posters over the years like yourself.

Anyone that enjoys PvP in this game.

I guess we'll have to disagree on this. I believe negative impressions make a far more lasting imprint on people than positive and people will avoid them.

While I like the idea and have 1 character that would use it, I still think it would be a mistake because it sets a precedent. That whole slippery slope thing. I prefer the devs remain resolute on this topic even tho it means I have a character I don't play anymore because I don't like my choice of powersets.

CoH started off as a good MMO and evolved into a great MMO.



10% of the population is smallish.

Yes what there was of the PvP community had zones and servers they preferred to play on.

I'll concede that point but I was refuting what Battlewraith said

And I dismissed that idea because it flat out wasn't true. There has always been a solid but small core of PvPers waiting for things to get fixed, and while I think the devs put PvP on the back burner for a while they haven't given up on it yet.

Never said it didn't. Again the remaining PvP population is merely waiting for the devs to fix it.


If I'm going to be compared to someone for something I said then I'd much prefer it to be Je_Saist than Durakken.

Exactly. PvP didn't atrophy from dev neglect. They spent a lot of time on it.

Never said they didn't.

And that changes what about how new players having to learn the PvP mechanics for a game they never played before? Even if PvP were perfect in this game new players would still have to learn the ropes.


So we're just quibbling over the percentages that represent the admittedly small PvP community. Well without hard numbers from the devs I stand by my estimate.

That's a bet I would take but I know of no way to resolve it because I doubt the devs will ever confirm it one way or the other.

Actually I think what discouraged people more wasn't the PvP mechanics, but that tiny fraction of the PvP community that (vocally) behave like obnoxious jacktards when encountered. Their antics didn't encourage people when they are trying to learn how things work. Thus the larger good PvP community suffered.

It wasn't intended to. It was solely directed at the fact that all new players have to learn the mechanics of any game they are playing for the first time.

Well we can't agree on everything. Maybe next time.

Gee no surprise that a lawyer thinks he can win by losing since he gets paid more the longer he can draw this out.

I didn't say what your are implying at all, but since you brought it up what the devs should do is make it so walk is suppressed inside a mission.

Problem solved.

You'd be surprised how often people don't. There are far too many internet bullies that like to belittle people as tattletales if they find out someone is thinking of filing a petition. The victim just wants the behavior to stop, and for various reasons may not want to make a huge deal about it unless forced.

A few months ago a forum member was having this very problem. She was being harassed and the person that started it got his/her friends involved. As I recall it ended up with at least one person getting banned.

The forum member shared the story with us up in the Rude Tells thread.

1. Because we have a unique name system where only one character can have a name on a server.

2. Because using global names looks stupid.

All I can say is that to the best of my knowledge I've encountered/watched far more build nazi's who insist on harassing people by inflicting their unasked for opinions about their builds than I have the guys in the middle.


Of course I'm wiling to admit it's possible that the guys in the middle have far more common sense than the build nazi's and simply keep their opinions to themselves unless asked and that's may be why they remain unnoticed.

Wrong. That list means absolutely nothing, and should be removed from the game as Memphis Bill already suggested. All it does is foster elitist snobbery and stupid arguments about how unfair it is that some SG's can get to the top of the list by converting inf to prestige.

Actually a lot of us use the Star/Notes in conjunction with the ignore feature since it's possible for someone to eventually be dropped from the ignore list. The ignore feature alone doesn't let us leave a reminder why we want to avoid someone.

If it was so great it wouldn't have needed to keep getting fixed.

Wrong. It atrophied because this game was designed from the get go to be PvE, and as such has always had a dedicated PvE population. Nearly all of the playerbase has no interest in PvP and never has. Even in PvP's heydey it was lucky if the PvP population was 10% of the community.


Exactly. PvP never worked right.

The devs aren't stupid. They focus on what pays the bills. In this game that has always been PvE content.

New players always have to learn a new games mechanics.

Once again that's because over 90% of the playerbase are PvE players and want nothing to do with PvP. Why on earth would they waste time learning the mechanics to a feature they never use.


Forum discussions frequently stray off the original topic onto related topics and even unrelated topics.

We could always get your global without being on your global friends list anyway. It's called /gignore and your global appears on their global ignore list.

No, it stops harassment. The devs added this feature because too many jerks were abusing switching character to continue to act like jerks.

That's right. The Star/Notes feature means you can't stalk/harass people by simply switching characters. Not only will you be identified as a jerk they want to avoid, they can check their notes to see exactly why they marked you as a jerk and grab your global for a quick petition to the GM's to report your persistent bad behavior if you are still acting like a jerk or they can use it to simply avoid you when they see you.

On the other hand if your a great guy people can use the feature to make notes to remind themselves that hey there goes Giant2005. He's a great player and maybe he'd like to join this team since he's broadcasting that he wants to join a group.

While we've all run into guys in Bill's example, I think players that deliberately gimp their builds and mooch off of others are exceptions to the norm.

It's my opinion that seeing powerset selections just gives the build nazi's something to act elitist about.

/this

/this.

I personally don't want to see global names over their heads or in the chatbox, but I wouldn't object to letting players have an option of turning it on if they want to see them.

You don't have to use walk. Just turn off sprint and be more careful not to outrun your hostage by simply tapping the "W" for short bursts of movement.

You chose to make yourself vulnerable by using a power that was only put into the game for RP purposes and blocks all of your powers.

New? Praetoria is a year old. It may be new to you because you just got back but the new wore off for us 6-8 months ago.

Also as was pointed out above today is Friday not Saturday and most people are at work on Friday afternoons.

As a returning player from a long absence it's best for you to join some global channels. That's where the online communities have migrated.

Another thing that has been pointed out above the game is heavily instanced and has over 50 zones. In addition to that players now have the ability to /hide from searches so we can avoid things like RMTers. So it's not unusual that you aren't seeing a lot of people on a weekday afternoon.

That's because PvP never worked right in this game. Cryptic tried to force PvP into a game that wasn't designed for it.

That happens in any PvP game until new people learn the game mechanics.

Tanstaafl.

They get what they pay for, and if they wants a free ride they got no right to complain.

They were free to start their own company if they wanted. Then they could write their own ticket. America is full of success stories where people started their own companies from scratch and became successful. (note that I said successful not millionaires.)