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Quote:It's business.
2 things:
Laying off folks is immediate measurable expense eliminated from the books. Instant guaranteed profit. Classic everyday corporate stuff that happens all the time.
They need resources for another game. Not servers. (though the will probably be assimilated) Resources can be people. Proven folks can equal less risk than new folks, to fill positions they have to hire anyway for a bigger more upside project.
"Realignment" is the clue.
But hey I'm just guess. Oh, and by the way if at any point someone actually thought it was our game.. Mistaken. 'your favorite game' may be accurate but any rights or ownership of anything...
Don't forget all funds earmarked for developing future projects is immediately freed up to be used elsewhere. That's tens of millions of dollars where new games are concerned, and Paragon was working on at least one secret project that wasn't City of Heroes. -
I just have a hunch that they'll offer refunds where local laws force them to, and "store credit" where they can get away with it. And if it's true that they're pulling out of the Western market then it's likely they don't give a damn what we think about them.
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Quote:That is stupid. NCSoft isn't going to sacrifice 3 months of digital GW2 sales waiting to get CoHs servers. Ifthey needed the servers that badly our servers would have been shut down immediately.One theory I read on Kotaku was that the CoH servers are needed to convert to more profitable guild war 2 servers, and that that process has already begun. GW2 has sold out its digital copies and they want a faster response to the demand. I don't know if it's true though.
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Quote:If you made a good-faith effort to delete it, then NCSoft should lose any tenuous right they might have claimed to your intellectual property, even if they can technically scour their servers to pull your character out of the virtual dust bin.
In any case, NCSoft doesn't want your characters, so in practice it's a non-issue.
If you read the EULA you agreed before playing that the characters you create belong to them. They don't lose any right to that ownership just because you chose to remove your ability to play the character in their game.
The only time they give up their IP rights to the property is when
1. They don't use it after however many years required by law. and
2. They don't defend their ownership of said IP when they learn someone is violating their copyright/trademark to the IP. -
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Quote:Well damn. I was hoping to use my monthly Paragon Points to buy Water Blast and give that a spin during the next couple months.
I don't see why they have to withhold our points. It seems like they could very easily continue to give us the opportunity to play the game as we used to, as it was all electronically mediated ... unless they're doing some weird torture thing, where they're going to turn off the game system by system ... losing email one week, and then chat channels, then bases, then WW/BM, then merit vendors, ... and then roll up the game, zone by zone ...
Well getting the stipend is directly linked to paying for a subscription. Since they aren't accepting subscription fees they have no obligation to continue giving out the stipend.
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Quote:Hey, I sympathize with your point of view; I really do.
But it's NCSoft's intellectual property. That's why they make us agree to that clause about our characters' likenesses, backstories, etc when we log into the game. And NCSoft isn't (necessarily) destroying the information in question (knowledge, as you call it). They're simply taking it offline.
You are both entitled to record and capable of recording your characters' data (via TonyV's excellent tool or by hand if you wish) and then deleting every hint of your characters before the servers shut off, to avoid the prickly IP issue.
Uhm I just want to point out that deleting characters off of your computer doesn't delete them from the game. I've watched people get characters back several months after they "deleted" them. All they had to do was provide the character name and a rough estimate of when it was "deleted" and they got the character restored with everything it had on it. -
Quote:I work, therefore I am
prudent budgeting and a lack of other vices gives me leeway.
anyhow, multi month and lifetime subs are something of a gamble. I got bit a bit on this ending, but over the course of the lifespan of coh, i made out big time.
as per Co it paid off, i paid the cost of a year and a half sub and, in addition to exclusive costume stuff, i have had a free ride for a year and a half more so far. Plus, i hate paying monthly, i can time overtime to fill up my coffers with some planning, and then I dont have to worry again. Plus, i try to do my homework. i transitioned into 14 monthers on coh because i had faith in the developers. over the lifetime of the game, I still came out way ahead of monthers, i dont skitter easily, and a down month doesn't mean the next month will be down, I made the decision based on weighing the options, and feel that by and large, I still came out on top . I accepted the risk, different strokes for yadda yaddas. as for people who think they have a solid case, I'm not a lawsuit guy by any stretch of the imagination, but faster pussycats, kill kill, i support you. Get the legal satisfaction that you can make a legitimate case for.
Yep. When I see an LTS being offered at the start of a game I do the math and then ask myself if I honestly believe the game will last "x" number of months the LTS is equal to in monthly sub fees. I haven't been disappointed yet. -
Quote:I would extremely upset if that is the case (getting credit for other NCSoft games).
Of course, there may be something in the EULA stating as such...so then we're floating down Crap Creek with no paddle. Or raft.
If there is no such verbiage in the EULA, then I wouldn't be surprised if a class action wasn't initiated.
I think it depends on the laws of whatever country you live in. From what I've seen people saying, I think in EU they might be required to refund the money. Whereas in other places they may not be so required.
Quote:As Slazenger stated...it would be salt in the wound. Lowering their value with the community even more.
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And exactly how many NCSoft customers live in Seattle Washington? So they aren't local for most of the customer base and my point still applies.
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Quote:Class action lawsuits are useless and only encouraged by lawyers to generate money for themselves. Now everyone has this idea that "Oh a game publisher sneezed in a video, I must launch a class action lawsuit because I might have caught pixel flu!"
Small claims are even more useless. Even if you are guarunteed to win, collecting from a person or business that ignores the judgement usually ends up costing the plaintiff more in both time and money than he's willing to spend.
The courts (at least in the US) won't go after them for you. You have to jump thru hoops.
Here's a rough idea of what it's like.
Contact the party that owes you money with a formal letter or notice. As this is your first attempt to enforce the small claims judgment, be polite and offer to work with the person. Don't make threats or harass the debtor.
Arrange for an examination of assets, which forces the other party to disclose his or her income and other assets. This can usually be done through the court.
Consider a settlement for a lesser amount. If the other party cannot afford to pay the entire judgment, he or she may be willing to settle in order to resolve the situation more quickly. This will also cut down on your collection costs.
Begin the Collection of a Judgment
Obtain a Writ of Execution (sometimes called Writ of Attachment or Writ of Garnishment) from the court in order to start the collection process. Simply take the document sent by the court that grants your judgment to the county clerk's office and fill out the proper form for your state.
Head to the sheriff's or marshal's office with your writ and ask for a seizure of assets form. You must know as many details as possible about the assets you wish to be seized. For bank accounts, you only need to know which bank the debtor uses. To garnish wages, you must know his or her employer.
If your attempts to enforce the judgment have failed, consider hiring a professional debt collector or agency.
And that's if the party you sued is local to you. NCSoft is in Korea. -
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Are you sure that applies to small claims court? At one point I worked for a small corporation (medical practice) and one of my resposibilities as newest hired employee was showing up at small claims court. And I've never been to law school.
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That I don't know I only know about Dungeon Runners because I had an account there (along with my CoH account) when it shut down.
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I've been acting like a total *** for 8 1/2 years. Why should today be any different? And I absolutely love watching small claims court shows and laughing at the plaintiffs and defendants. I don't care who wins or loses they all look like idiots.
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Quote:That's not really a UI concern, it's the way the game is balanced. The game is set up so you can eventually have all the skills. If you could have more than 10 skills they'd either have to be far less useful or you couldn't get as many. The game makes you select the type of build you want for specific settings. For instance I want to play a necromancer whose powers are all pets. If every necromancer had all the pets and still had tons of curses and health drain powers and healing wells, they'd be crazy powerful.
Fair enough. I'll accept the balancing issue as far as that's concerned, but that does't affect the other things I find to be annoying about their UI compared to ours.
My ability to customize my UI in CoH is something I cherish, and find annoying when I can't do it in other games.
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Quote:So that would be a way for them to get us to play there new game GW2. By only giving us NCSoft credit for are refund.
Also I have lots of points and have been able to purchase things from store as recently as the 5th.
When Dungeon Runner's shut down they offered those payed subscribers credit towards City of Heroes.
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Quote:That works both ways. In nearly any state, the fee to file a small claims matter is more than its worth. And with the venue provision in the EULA it is likely to be dismissed summarily unless you happen to live there.
And even if NCSoft lost the only legal fees they'd have to pay is the fee the plaintiff spent to file the claim.
They aren't going to pay attorney's to fight a lawsuit over $15-$200 bucks. If anyone actually shows up it'll be some local employee with a copy of the EULA and the reimbursement they offered. -
Quote:To be honest the CoH UI has never been massive or in the way for me, but then I use the tools provided to customize what appears on my monitor and move items to where I want them, adjust the screen size as well as the window size which in turn gives me a glorious uncluttered view of things.Wait... what?
The CoH UI is massive and in the way. I love CoH, and am a devoted fan, but it's one of the things I always hated about the game. I have to have at least four trays up to see all my powers, the chat is huge because it's hard to navigate through, the target and nav bar and HP are all giant, and as an added bonus in trials and other events you get an extra window that takes up half the screen. I seriously can't even see myself or what's going on sometimes there's so much clutter.
GW2 has so much less, and it puts all the important stuff in one place so you don't have to move your eyes around the screen to see everything. I don't know why you'd be upset with it.
I can't do that in GW2. My power tray is stuck on the bottom middle of my screen where I personally find it to be a PITA compared to where I prefer to have it located in CoH, and my health window is stuck smack in the middle of my power tray where it's a constant annoyance
The Power Tray is also overlly restrictive. I have more powers/skills than I have slots in my power tray. In CoH if I need more slots I can just open up an additional power tray. I can have 90 powers/skills at my fingertips in CoH. I can never have access to more than 10 in GW2.
My Map is inconviently located on either the lower or upper right corner of my screen where I normally put other things in CoH and I'm forced to have it open at all times, whereas in CoH I can turn it on or off at my convenience.
Oh yes and the mission text is always floating in the upper right corner and cannot be turned off like in CoH so it's constantly interfereing with ones immersion.
No our UI here is vastly superior to GW2's -
Just woke up and checked my email and saw the second episode is ready for downloading on Itunes. Squee!
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