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Arcanaville being bad at math?

GG not being argumentative?

Me not being a ****?

Or did you mean only in the game?

So why haven't you added this suggestion to your signature so it's suggested every post you make?

Too bad, it's banned because it's an offensive insult that is still used by obnoxious morons.

And that attitude is another reason why the word should remain banned. You have no right to dictate what people find offensive or act dismissively to how they feel.

Edit: Added a comma after bad. Didn't notice it was missing till Tenzhi quoted me. Thanks Tenzhi.

Don't let your imagination run wild about hidden meanings that were never said.

No you didn't. You did the research for yourself. I wasn't the one trying to prove a negative. I said the devs always stated they would like to merge the markets one day and used the difference in the amounts of inf available to both sides as the reason they hadn't done it at that time, and instead of proving that I was wrong you confirmed what I said was correct. Thank you.


But please feel free to live in denial.

In the case of the Defuser CoH got more free publicity out of the fact that everyone watching learned he not only played City of Heroes but he went and won.

It would have been suicide for NCSoft to to kill the golden goose by getting their panties in a bunch over copyright/trademark issues. That kind of negative publicity could have seriously hurt the game.

Buh-bye. I kin haz ur stufz?

Alt builds already exist in the game. They can simply use the first for IO's and the second for TO's, DO's, SO's, & HO's.

That was easy to refute.


Now are you going to claim that you didn't know that Inventions are IO's?

If he says anything specific he knows it will be refuted. So all he can do is make vague allegations.

You got it straight from the devs. Freedom doesn't mean Free to Play.

I agree with these two about not feeling the least bit shafted.

/Ditto

FYI The griefing problem we're talking about doesn't involve GM's. In the past we've occasionally had players duplicate names by using the similarities between the letters "L" and "I" in game and the wrong person has gotten blamed for things they didn't do because players don't bother to check global names, and they can only take another players word on what happened. Unlike GM's we can't pull up chatlogs to verify someones innocence.

99% of the time playing with the letters was just for fun so a group of players could all show up in identical costumes and what appeared to be the same name.

Doesn't Jim Butcher have a version of Harry Dresden in this game?

No it doesn't.

The only thing it implies is that before that decision we couldn't send items between factions using emails. Nothing more.

Duh, of course it was. The devs aren't morons. Common sense told them that if they allowed items and inf to be sent cross faction that the players would use the stuff to buy and sell on the opposite market.

They even knew that by allowing side switching that there would be players that would load up characters with IO's and Inspirations to twink out secondary builds just to use them as mules to change factions, then strip them of items using respecs and sell them on the other side.

It's not hard to power level a mule up to the desired level and then use vetspecs to strip the mule once it switched sides. Then delete and repeat.


No they don't

Which only confirms my statement is correct. We couldn't originally send items cross faction.

I never said we did. What I actually said was that once they decided to let us send items cross faction via email they couldn't have delayed merging the markets for more than a few months at most. The simple fact that they didn't even wait that long confirms my conclusion.

I was a beta tester. That's how I know that the devs didn't originally allow us to send items cross faction via email.

The last official statement was made by Positron during the 5th anniversary in game Q/A which several other forum members posted from their chatlogs, as well as confirmed participating in.

I guess your going to argue that there was a conspiracy between those dozens of players to post false informartion about what the devs said.

Which confirms what I said about the devs deciding to merge the markets after they decided to allow items to be sent cross faction emails.

The thread was made by a player before the devs decided to allow items to be sent cross faction via emails. It doesn't contradict anything I said nor does it provide any evidence that the devs were always against merging the market someday.

What players believe and disbelieve has nothing to do with the facts. For example players have been claiming the game was doomed and going to shut down in a "few months" for 7 years.

Again simply a post made before they decided to allow cross faction emails, and nowhere does he say they would never merge the markets.

Which has nothing to do with sending emails cross faction or merging the markets. That's just how the game mechanics worked for years.

See previous statement.

Exactly. It was done after the devs decided to allow items to be emailed cross faction.

Even if your theory on the order of the decisions in which came first, cross faction emails or finally merging the markets, is correct it still doesn't change the fact that the devs didn't change direction. They always said that one day they'd like to merge the markets and they finally made it happen.

Who knows things may change. The devs never said they wouldn't consider naming changes, but from the overwhelming responses I've seen over the years, the majority of players want unique names and the ones that don't are the minority. So which group do you think the devs will keep happy over a QoL issue like naming.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to fall and injure yourself in heels when you aren't on a solid flat stage where there's no random unseen foreign objects to slip on, no unexpected protuberances, uneven pavement blocks, potholes, sidewalk ventilation grates, soft earth, ice, oil, fine gravel, etc.

Doesn't sound weak to me. Sounds like a simple case of a player trying to push the boundaries of what is and isn't offensive to see if he or she could get away with it, and you didn't.

And the game content has nothing to do with your choice in character names. You knew that name would draw attention and get reactions.

I'm another one of those people on a very fixed income, and I also find it hard to buy the rant because from some of the examples in the rant they have more free money than I do.

Did you actually read that post from Posyb that you linked? It's merely a set of step by step instructions on how to email items to yourself before they allowed items to be sent by emails between both factions.

Nowhere does he say that the devs implemented the email feature in order to keep the markets separate.

Now you are correct that this all happened while I17 was still in beta testing. However the devs always said they would like to merge the markets at some point.

Finally doing something that you have always said you would like to do at some point is not a reversal.

Out of respect for the thread I'll stop baiting him.

The market merge wasn't a reversal either. The devs always said they wanted to eventually merge them but said there was too great a difference in the amount of available Inf between the red and blue factions and redside simply couldn't afford the blueside prices.

Once they allowed us to email items and inf between factions that issue was resolved and merging the markets was only a few months away at most.