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VIP's get other incentives with their subs that non subscribers don't get. And as Doc Roswell pointed out the stipend doesn't count towards extra reward points.

Analogy: First person suggests, "Hey It would be cool if there was a bridge that went from point "A" to point "B".

Other people respond, "Why? We have a perfectly good main road going from point "A" to point "B" half a block from where you want to build that bridge."

First person answers, "Well yeah but ya have two stop lights to go thru on that road."

Other people, "So?"

First person, "I don't like stop lights."

Other people, "You do realize that people using the bridge will have to use stop lights at either end of the roads on both ends of the bridge, and there will be additional stop lights on both ends of the bridge itself. Right?"

First person, "What's your point?"

Other people, " That's 4 stop lights people will have to go thru, as opposed to the two that you want to avoid."

First person, "But I like bridges, and think of the years of potential use it will get."

Other people, " . . . And that's when we killed him Your Honor."

Judge, "I find the defendants Not Guilty. Clearly it was Self Defense."

That type of player burns out anyway. They make a habit of hopping from game to game.

Now I have to admit I find it amusing that your argument is that the DfB should be nerfed because you claim the "Outliers" cause nerfs.

Jagged you do realize that we've been running the same content over and over for years. There is very little in this game that is one shot, never repeatable content.

Orobouros was specifically designed to repeat content.
The AE was specifically designed to repeat player made content.
TF's have always been repeatable content.
Trials are repeatable content.
Raids are repeatable content.
Incarnate Trials are repeatable content.
Zone Events are repeatable content.
GM's are repeatable content.

As to the players that are endlessly repeating DfB's, who cares. There will always be twits that do that in every MMO. The problem isn't with the game it's with the player. They have tunnelvision. They focus on one thing and ignore everything else. That's a personality quirk. If they weren't doing DfB's they'd be doing AE missions, or sitting in Oro, or begging for PL's/farms.

As long as they aren't breaking any rules or abusing any exploits we have no right telling them their preferred playstyle is wrong.

Now if someone wants to be a good player they can try to entice them into trying other aspects of the game. If not mind they should mind their own damn business. There is no wrong way to play the game.

You can also transfer unlimited funds and resources to the Test/Beta servers by using the Copy tool, and then emailing/transferring the items and inf to the one character you want to use for testing.

Which is why the current system is working exactly as intended. New players getting reward tokens thru the purchase of Paragon Points spend the same amount of money the long term vets have spent over the past 84 months.

This system is exactly what new players have been begging for for years because they claimed it was "unfair" that they had to wait for their vet rewards to unlock, and couldn't buy Vet Rewards by simply spending the same amount of money the long time vets did.

The new system is totally fair and unbiased. Everyone that spends the exact same amount of money gets access to the the same rewards. The ones willing to wait can get it eventually thru just their subscription, while the "Gottahaveitnao's" can get it immediately by simply spending the cash.

You can buy the Celestial Set. You get a reward token for every 1200 paragon points you buy. So if you keep buying points you'll get enough tokens to unlock the Celestial set.

And I encountered a low 40's PB that didn't know what enhancements were for or how to slot them about a month after the AE went live. This was back when the level cap on EAT's was still 50.

It's a hell of a lot easier to PL to 50 using the AE legitimately than it is the DfB and the game and player quality have been doing just fine for years.

The OP needs to get over his DfB paranoia, get his butt out of Atlas Park, and pay less attention to the Help channel. Oh and if he's a free player he needs to cough up the cash to get himself access to global channels and join a few of them, where he'll meet more experienced groups of players.

Copyright of what? The power itself isn't an issue. Maybe the physical extra's that were sold as part of the pack? If that's the case we don't need those items. People are just asking to be able to buy the power itself.

Anyway I hope they do eventually sell the power, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is why I mentioned that I thought the question that got Posi's response was about making it a Vet reward.

If money was their primary concern there are literally thousands of things that players have been demanding that they could sell just as easily as Power Slide and make more money.

The devs looked at all the problems and complaints the random queuing was causing and wisely added the closed leagues feature. Kvetch and moan about it all you like but players have a right to control who they team with.

As I recall Posi was said to have used the plural "Persons", and the question asked at the time was about getting Powerslide released as a vet reward. The impression I got was that those responsible for the veto outrank the dev team in the company ladder.

Every time I see comments like this I can't help but think that the real reason the person is mad about pre-forming teams before joining the queue is that the team leaders don't want that person on their teams.

Ah, I see what your saying now. Thanks for clarifying.

You can believe whatever you like. The fact still remains that the devs decided before Freedom launched that unlimited base access is an incentive to get players to subscribe to the game.

The devs have also maintained the position that SG's/bases are supposed to be used by multiple players, and they've gone out of their way to make solo SG's difficult to create.

1. Premium players must invite a VIP into their SG if they build a base that incurs a monthly rent, or they can pay a sub fee.

2. The devs have flat out told us less than 60 days ago that if they ever added a feature that allowed us to send SG invites via email that they would not allow us to send SG invites to our own characters.

3. After 8 years we still have to either use a second account, or get a friend to help us invite our own characters into personal SG's

And nowhere did I imply that the devs aren't interested in knowing what their customers are willing to pay for. The base community encompasses all players both VIP's and non subscribers.

That being said there are many examples of things players have said they'd be willing to pay for but the devs have said in one way or another that they aren't going to allow. They aren't motivated by nickel and diming the players.


In the meantime while you are trying to change the devs minds, you can use the info I've tried to provide you with to make it easier to build your base.

Wait . . . exactly how do soloists feel the "sting" of DfB runners than people that team? By definition of being a soloist means they don't team with other people so another persons play style has no impact on them.

People that prefer soloing are going to encounter the few clueless players far less frequently then team players because they like playing solo.

Personally I don't have the patience for it. Especially since the number of players on the team effects how much exp you get so you'd have to keep track of the number of runs, the number of players per run, etc, etc.