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Thief! Khel stole someones purse!

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Barack Obama

TPAM is in my head

Once upon a Positron there was a bug. It's purple Mankey liked saving walruses deaths. Until a green shoe fell off a pretty cloud of root beer fluff cleaving off seven little toes while chewing Bubblegum. After seeing the drunk Pinnacle-ite puke chunky bits of magnets, it stumbled into a garbage carafe. Feeling pretty depressed, it died a Lonely death.

Elsewhere, there were some hungry hippos dancing on me for every time one slurps from the fountain of Wayne. In the

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a) Toons I farm with are arc/mm blaster and fire/kin troller. Fire/kin troller is the better of the two, but with AE, you can sorta make anything a farm toon with the right power choices.

b) They only lowered rewards for custom groups I think. If you use a premade group, the rewards remain the same. And yes, swarms of guys is the only way I farm. I usually go in with an 8 man team, and finish with a 3 man team because everyone quits cause it's to hard. I spawn the entire map before I start because of this. I have an Ice/SS tank that isn't real good on the AoE attacks, but he can solo 8 groups of winter horde at the same time, and it's alot of fun.

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Now see? THIS is why I have "hero envy" NOW. The tanks that can take on 8 groups of ANYTHING and live to talk about it. LMAO

And Another_Fan I do agree my aoe's get kinda nasty, especially when teamin, as a long-time player I know how to use my "soft control powers" properly. but dam man, sometimes ya just wanna blow [censored] up and in every direction ya feel what I'm sayin?! lol

Naw but seriously, maybe he needs purples to kill quicker? But then if I aggro more than 5 guys its a wrap for me, they kill quicker than I can. Maybe its just not meant to be on a eng/eng blaster? Again, not for farming purposes but I'd like to at least feel super for once in his career, ya know?

Either way, thanks so far for the insight guys.

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Well, you could make a tank, and when going rogue comes out, you can make him a villian.

As for your eng/eng blaster, take the fighting pool to make him less squishy, take ice epic for heals, hibernate, sleep, and ice armor. Take the fighting power set, and get your ice/smashing/lethal defense and smashing/lethal resist high. Should be able to pick up some cheap IO sets that give +hp. Then try making a map with Winter Horde or Council with AE with lots of defendable objects, and see how he does. Just make sure you uncheck the defendable objects as required to complete the mission.

If you can get complete stealth and hover, that will help alot to. It gives you positioning without having to worry about agro before you attack. Super speed and a stealth IO in sprint should work fine.

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It's called "farming" because of it's similarity to the seed/harvest cycle of a farm: you set a mission, harvest the minions, then leave the mission to reset/reseed it and start again


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I agree with that, but only because fighting minions is extremely boring to me. I created a custom group of only minions, and ran it with my tank. While I thought it was easy and boring, several people on the team still died continuously, and ended up leaving because it was to hard for them.

While I may think one thing is boring and repetitive, someone else may think it's fun. If it's fun to someone, it's not farming regardless of the reward.

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/unsigned. It can get annoying, but sometimes you want to broadcast something to the whole zone while in the AE buildings.

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a) Toons I farm with are arc/mm blaster and fire/kin troller. Fire/kin troller is the better of the two, but with AE, you can sorta make anything a farm toon with the right power choices.

b) They only lowered rewards for custom groups I think. If you use a premade group, the rewards remain the same. And yes, swarms of guys is the only way I farm. I usually go in with an 8 man team, and finish with a 3 man team because everyone quits cause it's to hard. I spawn the entire map before I start because of this. I have an Ice/SS tank that isn't real good on the AoE attacks, but he can solo 8 groups of winter horde at the same time, and it's alot of fun.

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We've all seen the broadcasts: lvl XX healer lft. I used to think people were referring strictly to empaths, but apparently storm summoners can pass themselves as "healers" as well, with their amazing healing set consisting of a whopping 1 single target heal. Maybe it's just me, but this is just more than a tad bit misleading. If this is the case, then any blaster who happens to pick up the ally heal from the Medicine power pool can pass themselves off as "healers" as well.

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Healers don't exist in this game. For me, it's buffers or debuffers. A heal is nothing more than a buff to your hp.

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I am anti-farming in general, its clear to me that it hurts the game in the long run if allowed to run unchecked to some degree.

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What exactly is meant by this ? I definitely maybe understand it.

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I am not antifarming, per se.

I do beleive games should be designed to reduce the effects that farming has on an MMO.

Some people love farming and can farm all day without burning out and hating the game. I have no proof, but I beleive these people to be a minority.

Most people who farm, farm to get shinies faster, not because they enjoy the activity themselves. They find themselves repating an unpleasant activity over and over because, in the words of many farmers on these boards, "I have to in order to get x."

What I beleive they really mean (since there is nothing in this game that requires farming to get) "I have to in order to get x as fast as the farmers do." After all, it's one thing to know you'll get to 50 some day. But when your little brother gets to 50 in ONE day, you're going to want to know how he did it, and you are probably going to want to do it yourself. And if the way to get 50 that fast is not fun, you just shortened your life expectancy in this game.

That's bad for the game.

The Devs don't hate farming because of the effect on farmers; they hate it because of the effect it has on non-farmers who want to emulate the farmers and burn themselves out in the process.

Here is another example from this very game:

A guy joined this game during 'meow wars'. HThe friend who recruited him saw him gain over 20 levels in 3 hours. He then asked Guy if he was having fun.

Guy replied that the game was boring because the enemies were too easy.

They then took Guy into some tough missions, and had some rollicking skin-of-your-teeth encounters. Afterward, they asked Guy if he was having fun NOW.

Nope: the xp was too slow.

THAT is exactly the nightmare scenario of every MMO Dev everywhere. A player who CANNOT enjoy your game because of farming. THAT is what the Devs want to prevent.

Therefore, Farming, like every other form of min/maxing in any MMO, shoud give a small enough advantage that it is not devastatingly destructive to 'normal speed' content.

The Devs simply cannot create new content faster than players can consume it. The MA can, but only if it does not also make things worse itself, by accellerating those players to the speed of plaid.

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I can't disagree with anything you said other than your definition of farming, but people will continue to farm the way that yields the most output. I do farm, but the way I farm has changed since AE came out, and I really don't consider what I've been doing farming since the change to Comm Officers. Now it's possible to make a mission where people have to fight 6 groups at once which makes the mission insanly hard and incredible fun for me. I guess it explains why I enjoy the ITF so much. The rewards are still there, but it's fun as well.

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However this road has signs saying that private vehicles are restricted from driving on the road and the test you took to legally drive says you have to stay on authorized roads


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Red Herring. Powerleveling and farming is not a illegal in Co* so your analogy is frivolous.

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never said it was. In fact in my analogy the carpool lane, ie power leveling lane was just fine (it got you there the fastest and you didn't have to even learn to drive). the forestry road is the analogy for the MEOW team/exploit road.

Maybe my analogy could have been clearer, but nowhere did I say that power leveling was wrong, only breaking the rules to get somewhere faster was.

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Point taken, but it was never said that Comm Officers was an exploit. With as obvious as it was, and as much as it was talked about, nothing was done to hide that fact either. So someone would have had to steal the restricted sign, or they just forgot to post it in the first place.

I don't disagree that the Comm Officers offered to much reward, or debating that they should have been removed, but about whether it was an exploit or not. I don't feel it was.

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Well, the only definition that counts for exploits is what the devs consider it to be. They've stated that an exploit is when you use an unforeseen or unintended game mechanic to give yourself a statistical advantage that you wouldn't have in normal gameplay. Seeing as missions within the game have always had a mixture of enemies, creating a map filled with a single enemy that basically self-nerfs itself in that situation.... is an exploit.

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so..since Radios are one mob type..Radios are exploits? >_>

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No of course not. He's referring to all one individual enemy over and over. I see where he's coming from, I just don't agree. If that were the case, they would have made it mandatory to make at least one minion, one lt, and one boss in every group.

Objective Feedback:

I've noticed that after using the Phase Shift powers Ethereal Shift and Hyper Phase, the person isn't allowed to use Hibernate for the same amount of time they won't be allowed to phase shift again. I'm not sure if this is working as intended.

Subjective Feedback:

If the above mentioned is working as intended, it would be nice to change it, since Phase Shift is no longer has the same escape power it use to have, and is more of a situational power, while hibernate isn't as much as an escape power, but more like a reset button for a battle.

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If you changed 'all you can eat buffet' to 'American Bar'


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Meh ... I'm inclined to agree with you after Posi's latest posts on this subject.

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I would also like the Devs to define what they consider an exploit is in more quantifiable terms, but in the meantime I feel I can play just fine and just as I always have without worrying about it.


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Same, but I doubt it will happen. I also doubt they will penalize casual players for using obvious game functions, So I'm not overly worried about it either.

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gamebreakingly fast speed doesn't need to be an exploit to get nerfed. It has to be nerfed whether it is an exploit or not, by definition.


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Also agree with this. I can't stand people who blame people who farm rewards for nerfs.

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Everytime I've tried using the MA, I've found myself in farm missions.

Even when I go for missions that advertise a goal, and I zone in and there is a goal (click X # of Ys) - its still just arranged as one massive farm with the Ys out of the way so you can just get them once you get bored.

PUGs I join that claim to be trying to avoid farms end up the same way - we zone in and once again, its a farm.


So...

Any tips for what to look for in the selection screens to find actual arcs? I'd like to be able to run things that aren't just Dev choices - those may be great, but I'd also like to have a hand in finding the next up and coming great picks - which means I need to know how to delve into the unknown masses, and yet still come up with gems, or at least missions with actual stories.

For those of you who have figured out how to find actual stories in between the farms and farms disguised as stories, any tips?

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for mine, its pretty simple: there is a warning sigh, aka: WARNING, this is a 4 man farm, avoid it if u dont like farming". i plan for ages on a serious arc, i mean, serious. the tools are not provided.
Bk to the previous: i call on self responsability, there cannot be a cop behind every citizen, so farmers behave, and RP ers behave.

FYI, even with the warning, 2 dudes O stared me, and on top, commented my stuff as crap.

1/my farm idea was fun: 2 bunches of surfers, waikiki ones and malibu ones gather to make magic suntan oil, they are blond, look dumb, and the bosses are red bikinis baywatchers by the name of "silicon teens" ans silicone baywatchers"...
i ve seen soooo many serious stuff just not fun, and not playable, that i laugh at the yellows.'french for brown noses, i think)
what would happen id i triple zeroed an arc, cause i got 3 acounts, and i really think its bad? 3 times 0 in a matter of 3 seconds.

And i would give the note on behalf of that, previous to be a farmer, im a player. and quiet a good one, if i listen to ppl.
So, just behave.

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Yeah, Baywatch was a good show I thought too .... Isn't that what your talking about?

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Short arcs with story content is the way to go. Make it farmable, and you will have two audiences.

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Finally /ignored because I'm sick of seeing you posting your farming whines all over the forums.

Anyhow, I wonder how much of the issue is due to all the "Complete X Mission" badges that the Devs put into the MA system. With there being dozens of those badges going from 10 missions to 100 missions and then X missions that are Heroic, X that are Villainous, etc... it's no wonder that short arcs get played so much more often.

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My goal is to get all the idiots to ignore me, so I don't have to continually listen to their "holier-than-thou" crap when it comes to people who farm. It's nice to know you place yourself in this list.

Easier to debate with people who are ignoring me to cause they always concede to my points.

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should newbies to CoH/CoV ever Powerlevel?


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Yes - This is why.

Once upon a Positron there was a bug. It's purple Mankey liked saving walruses deaths. Until a green shoe fell off a pretty cloud of root beer fluff cleaving off seven little toes while chewing Bubblegum. After seeing the drunk Pinnacle-ite puke chunky bits of magnets, it stumbled into a garbage carafe. Feeling pretty depressed, it died a Lonely death.

Elsewhere, there were some hungry hippos dancing on me

After a minor mathematical error on a routine report, a worker’s boss tried to belittle him in front of his peers. Angrily she asked, “If you had 4 apples and I asked for one, how many would you have left?” Quickly he replied, “If it was you who asked, I d still have 4 apples.”

Everyone in the world decided they didn't need to wear clothes anymore, and everyone started walking around in birthday suits. And then ...

Once upon a Positron there was a bug. It's purple Mankey liked saving walruses deaths. Until a green shoe fell off a pretty cloud of root beer fluff cleaving off seven little toes while chewing Bubblegum. After seeing the drunk Pinnacle-ite puke chunky bits of magnets, it stumbled into a garbage carafe. Feeling pretty depressed, it died a Lonely death.

Elsewhere, there were some hungry hippos dancing

Where does an R-Type programmer appear in this chart?

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However this road has signs saying that private vehicles are restricted from driving on the road and the test you took to legally drive says you have to stay on authorized roads


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Red Herring. Powerleveling and farming is not a illegal in Co* so your analogy is frivolous.

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never said it was. In fact in my analogy the carpool lane, ie power leveling lane was just fine (it got you there the fastest and you didn't have to even learn to drive). the forestry road is the analogy for the MEOW team/exploit road.

Maybe my analogy could have been clearer, but nowhere did I say that power leveling was wrong, only breaking the rules to get somewhere faster was.

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Point taken, but it was never said that Comm Officers was an exploit. With as obvious as it was, and as much as it was talked about, nothing was done to hide that fact either. So someone would have had to steal the restricted sign, or they just forgot to post it in the first place.

I don't disagree that the Comm Officers offered to much reward, or debating that they should have been removed, but about whether it was an exploit or not. I don't feel it was.

Short arcs with story content is the way to go. Make it farmable, and you will have two audiences.

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However this road has signs saying that private vehicles are restricted from driving on the road and the test you took to legally drive says you have to stay on authorized roads


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Red Herring. Powerleveling and farming is not a illegal in Co* so your analogy is frivolous.