FloatingFatMan

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You wouldnt be able to powerlevel if this system were implemented. Can I be any clearer than that?

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How would you not be able to power level with your system?

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That's what I've been wondering too. I even went back through your posts looking for an explaination but there's none there. You keep saying it without explaining it.

So explain please.

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Yes, explain. Because I and others have ALL demonstrated how it would be even MORE easy to PL with this system than the current one.

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He wouldn't even see her. She'd walk right past him.

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*Sticks a labyrinth of chompers, crushers, slicers, choppers, squishers, blenders and a TV showing Eastenders, in her way.

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My powergaming-fu is strong.

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A point to consider. Do police actually have ANY jurisdiction inside a prison? I don't think they do. In which case, whilst she'd be allowed in, I'm not sure she'd be allowed to just barge through and take Ellie. Not without the proper paperwork.

She might get to the gates by 8:18, but it could easily take a lot longer to get to Ellie.

*Sticks a jobsworth prison guard in her way*

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Grav would indeed head to the Zig upon hearing of Ellie's transfer.
With the intent to demand immidiate visitation... prepared to blast her way in if need be.

This presents me with a problem.
I've made Grav too powerful in the past. And for plot purposes, her mental disposition isn't what it used to be in regards to other people.
In her frame of mind, I wouldn’t put it past her to create a black hole near the roof if she can’t walk through the gate.

This is the problem, I can’t really play her down in this instance, and I doubt it’d be fun for others to RP having to deal with her.

I’ll ponder it a bit, in the meantime, I welcome people’s thoughts on this

It’s fairly easy for me to have the excuse that she isn’t reachable by BODICIA at the time until after the situation has progressed past such a point.

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Hmm... You've managed to reign her in before, so I'm sure you can do it again.

Perhaps it would be best if, on her arrival, she joins Zori with trying to talk Ellie into a safer place?

Just remember folks, ICA=ICC. If Ellie IS broken out of the Zig, that's REALLY not going to go down well on her record.

EDIT: Shadowe is bowing out, I think.. It's getting complicated!

Ed, please don't destroy the zig.

Setting up mIRC is pretty simple. It's a small install and only takes a few seconds. I can give you the login details over PM if you want to do it that way.

As for ease of use. In some circumstances, you are playing in an environment that the game just can't represent. In those cases, the game can actually be a distraction from the RP, so IRC can be a better environment. Sure, you have to describe everything, but it logs as well, and you have a much better text editor to work with, with more way space per entry!

But like I said, I'm fine with trying it in game; though WHERE is an interesting question!

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And that's all I have to say about that!

A post from Shadowe, who's having problems posting from work again!

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Well, just managed to get up to speed on the IC story thread... lots
happening!

Details of my current thoughts, feel free to pass along to Ellen and anyone
else you feel appropriate.

Helena will notice the transfer to GenPop, and examine likely responses
from the UV, resulting in a pretty good anaylsis, informing Richard that
there is a 78.23% probability that the Unity Vigil will attempt extraction.

Richard will, off his own bat, send a message to Zorielle, to the effect
that he is going to run cover. His initial method is going to be brutally
simple - he's planning to overload the Ziggursky Penitentiary with new
inmates. A sudden influx of fellons and crooks will overstretch the guards
and admin staff, hopefully to the extent that it will enable the UV team
enough additional surprise that their mission is easier.

Secondarily, once that *completely innocent* diversion has taken effect
(and he will be monitoring comms channels in the hope that he will get an
idea of when the UV are planning to strike), he will enter the Zig
personally, along with his secretary, Kara Sloane (herself a member of the
Knives of Artemis currently assigned to watch Richard), demanding to speak
to the Governor, and citing relevant legal precedents that support his
knowledge that Ellie should, under no circumstances, have been moved to
GenPop. He is aware that Zorielle will be doing the same thing, but assumes
that she will be too busy actually getting Ellie out to take personal
control of the situation, which he is MORE than happy to do.

Concurrent to this, Helena will be attempting to hack the Zig's network to
gain control of the prison, via an unauthorised agency in the Rogue Isles,
Lothair Corp (which has precisely ZERO links to Huntington, as it is owned
by a gentleman named Rich Hunter, a bounty-hunter, and it is a known fact
(ahem) that he and Dr Richard Huntington are not the same person). If
successful, Helena will attempt to aid the UV exfiltration attempt.

At the SAME TIME, on the basis of some rather hasty guesswork, Samantha
Huntington will be attempting (somewhat poorly, given the scale of the
operation) to befuddle and confuse the Prison Guard population to make it
even *easier* for the UV to get in, get Ellie, and get out.

End result: possible suspicion that Shadowe was involved in the
exfiltration attempt by providing a diversion; linking the exfiltration to
a group based out of the Rogue Isles who have no apparent link to any of
the relevant hero groups, though some may consider that a blind; heightened
risk of prisoner escape from the Zig during the attempt.

So, those are the current plans. If this is to be played out in-game, let
me know, and I'll try to handle it tonight (should be able to). I want to
keep Richard in the background, helping and not taking a direct hand (there
are a number of reasons for this, but if you want your KoA inside the
prison to get out, then link them to Kara in some way, and she, using KoA
stealth tech, can attempt to extract them herself).


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Feel free to post it in the OOC discussion thread - I'll try to keep up to
speed on responses, but might not have a huge amount of luck before I get
home tonight. (You're right about the trouble I have posting from work
right now. Hopefully that will be resolved in the near future!)

I'm just trying to come at things from Richard's perspective, and he wields
a lot more power as a businessman than he does as a hero (consciously so),
so it makes sense to try and act like the 'concerned citizen'. His demands
to the Governor (whom he has no qualms whatsoever about demanding to meet
at an ungodly hour of the day) will simply be that since Ellie has been
lawfully imprisoned, it is criminally remiss of him to allow the transfer
of a Registered Hero to GenPop, and that should the need arise, he will
prefer civil charges against the governor on behalf of the citizens of
Paragon City who are outraged that he has not been able to ensure the
safety and security of his inmates, and has potentially violated their
Human Rights. He will also press for the extradition of Ellie to the UK for
imprisonment there.

You don't have to register mIRC no; it's just a nag screen. The channel you want is #OOC, but it's only a possibility for playing it out (though much easier there than in game). Depends on Ravenswing, and whether he wants to try it there. If not, we can figure out a way to do it in game, I'm sure.

I thought it'd probably be a good idea to have an OOC discussion thread, especially as things are looking complicated right now!

Quick summary of today.

This morning, an order was received at the Zig to transfer Ellie into General Population, contrary to normal procedures. 2 guards assigned to do this were not what you'd call nice people, but not all the guards are like that, honest.

Both Zorielle Rolando and Operative Seven were notified almost immediately by this transfer order. Zori is preparing troops, Seven is already en-route to the Zig. Both are certain Ellie is in immediate danger.

Ellie's partner, Jessica (Grav Mistress) has also been notified (by BODICIA), of Ellie's status. I'm not sure if she's on the way to the zig too, though.

On the Rogue Islands, Dr Mechano has heard of Ellie's incarceration and being at least former friends, is planning to have her broken out; whether she wants to be or not.

Ellie is currently in the canteen eating porridge (Sorry, I just couldn't resist it ). A gang of Malta are eying her with unpleasant thoughts, and she's been approached by a former member of the Knives of Artemis, offering protection for a price.

Ellie is wearing a heavy duty power suppression collar. All her Peacebringer abilities are suppressed, along with her super strength. She DOES however, still possess the enhanced abilities imbued by her cat side, including sight, hearing, smell and agility (these being genetic in nature and outside of her PB powers). She's a trained martial artist and CAN defend herself, but she's no longer partially invulnerable.

Some OOC information that is findable. The order to transfer came from the Department of Corrections. The specific person who gave the order, however, is out of the building; reportedly in Washington at a meeting with various officials. He cannot be easily contacted.


There may or may not be a battle at the Zig; depends entirely on how people want to play it. What we need to hash out though, is do we somehow do this in game, or would a more appropriate venue be somewhere like IRC (I run a private server), which can later be turned into fiction for everyone else's enjoyment, or forum RP (which I know Ravenswing isn't keen on).

However, I *think* I'm prepared for all the possible eventualities I can think of from today's events so far. I don't mind which direction it goes, I shall endeavour to adapt like a good little RPer. You have free reign on your actions. Anyone caught boarding a train will be fed to Zortel.

Discuss!

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Great for those difficult AV fights, get someone to self-destruct for decent damage, then use the debt-free corpse to buff/debuff off of.

I'd almost be tempted to take Fallout on my Fire/Rad in antipication of lots of "ammunation" being easily available. I can always Mutate them back to life (and buffed too boot) afterwards.

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The video didn't show much of a body left... There might not be anything targettable to prevent just that. I can't believe that the devs would overlook such an obvious exploit.

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and last but not least a vid of the emote dance: Robot Dance!

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*Imagines BaB doing that in the office as he tries to get the animation right.

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BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

*Falls off chair in hysterics!


(Oh, and me wanty!)

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As if there weren't enough great reasons to come to Hero-Con '08, now when you attend the event, you will have the option to join future closed betas! Given the timing of Hero Con this may include Issue 13 closed beta, but will also include access to the future closed beta of Issue 14!


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I REALLY hope we get an equal chance to take part in this.

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I always AFK when I hit the Exit Mission button, straight away. That way part of the time I'm away is downtime anyway as people decide what to do next.


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I bet that's gotten you killed a few times from ambushes!

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That jet-pack has to be bought every 30 days? If so how much? It better break the sound barrier anyways.

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That's a bit much... I'm all for supporting the game and all, but bugger that for a game of soldiers!

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Rapthorn posted that he thought the thread wasn't worth posting in...

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I never said that. Do you know any other Rapthorn's on this Forum? Maybe one of them said it.

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Your evil twin, perhaps?

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Why do you ALWAYS have to take a thread off topic, GG? It gets kinda tedious, y'know?

If you're not going to report it, how can you expect the devs to EVER solve it?

(( Though not dead, this plot has been kinda paused for a while. Time to wake it up! )0

Shadow Cabinet Headquaters

"The alien has been neutralized?" 00's voice, cracked with age, came from the shadows at the head of the chamber.

A tall, heavyset man nodded in reply. "The jury did as anticipated, sir. Santiago followed instructions to the letter and gave it three years in the Ziggurat."

"Excellent. I trust our people there will make sure that is the last anyone will see of it again?" The ancient voice responded after a moment's delay.

"Yes sir. The guards have been bought, it'll be moved into the general population after several days, by 'mistake'. After that, with the suppression device in place, it'll be finished off within hours."

"Good. Take your place, number nine. Arrange an accident for Santiago, and cancel the transfer to her account in Geneva. Suspicion for her death, so soon after the aliens' incarceration, will cause Rolando additional difficulties.

The man nodded and moved to the end of the table, and took his place amongst the other members of the shadow cabinet, a satisfied look on his face. At the head of the table, the shadowy figure moved partially into view, though his face remained obscured.

"Things are proceding nicely. With this latest action complete, Rolando's protection is considerably weaker. The alien was a severe threat to our plans, but that threat has now been neutralized." A sudden coughing fit wracked the wizened figure, and after a moment, he reached for a glass of water.

A moment later, he spoke again. "The next step is clear. Before each of you, you will find sealed envelopes with further instructions. This session is concluded."

The HEATS are well known as being two of the most difficult AT's to play. So difficult, in fact, that most people just give up and declare them "rubbish" or "broken". Of course, the simple truth is that they're neither of those things. They're just... Different.

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... Your posts seem to me to have a sinusoidal aggression curve sometimes.

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The word freak in me thought it was a bit harsh to call some overly permeable. I never took LB to be a soft lad, but I can imagine using it as a fitting insult to some young thug in the local watering hole who’s being a bit of a jessie.

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He means this.

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Flaming Carrot sks Screwball and sponge boy

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Who the hell are they?

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You're gonna be surprised! You've seen the movie

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Well I'll be! So I have!

If I have to do more than a quick bio during a mission, I'll always offer to wait outside... If it's gonna take more then 5 minutes, I'll drop from the team so as to not inconvenience anyone. I generally expect similar courtesy's from everyone.

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Flaming Carrot sks Screwball and sponge boy

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Who the hell are they?

Well.. Have you petitioned it in game?

Is the Pink thing international though? Or just a UK thing? If it's in the US, it MAY happen, but not likely. If it's not, forget about it.