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I LOL'd

If nothing else, you deserve a thank you for taking the time to actually pull together your information. I personally agree with everything you've said, and see it clear as day. But I'm sure someone will come along with yet another dev-scripted excuse.

But....the level cap isn't being raised. Unless I misunderstood something, they aren't actually raising the level cap. They're simply enhancing 50's.

Deal

Agreed on all accounts.

But do we really part company? I have never once said "Eff the Devs! Let's do whatever we want!". At least not that I can remember. I have however said, we have the right to play how we choose with regards to other players. Players who feel they have sort of authority over what other players do. I fully understand the devs can do as they please with the game. It is their game after all. But I also understand that I pay to play this game, and there comes a point where that buys me the right for lack of a better term, to complain about something I don't like.

Let's be honest here, everyone knows "why" they can't elaborate. I'm not naive. Nor am I an idiot (Although I'm sure some would have you believe otherwise!). Personally, I don't believe it's a good enough reason. For me, I can't stand dishonesty. Keeping that line hidden is dishonest, in my eyes. I realize it will never change, but I can express how I feel about it.


You probably shouldn't. At this rate, GM's will be nerfed/removed by next year

Sorry if I took a pot shot at you. It's not difficult to admit emotions run high when it's something you like/enjoy (This game). I don't think we really disagree per se, I think it's more that we have different levels of tolerance to certain things

Have a good day at work!

Sarcasm aside....

We wouldn't really be having this conversation were the devs forthcoming with what is considered an exploit and what isn't. So, you can cling to whatever it is you thought you got out of some random vague definition one of the devs decided to post late one night, and I'll continue to express my distaste for current business practices. If you're happy with excuses, there's not much I can do for you.

Darn! I said sarcasm aside! Sorry!

Toodles.

As for this:

This is perfectly acceptable. You know, for something like the Facemaker's face being on the side of her head rather than her actual face. Take 20 years to fix that for all I care.

This however, is not acceptable for something like....oh I don't know...stacking a particular set of IO's for 16 months. Creating missions with buffbots for over a year....Or am I completely insane for thinking this?

I'm sorry, you're under the mistaken impression that I actually care about the fix itself.

Taking time to fix a bug you KNOW is there would be acceptable at a few weeks. Not several months or years later. I suppose I have to spell that out for you

To add to that, there wasn't anything stopping them from telling us not to do/use something they allegedly felt wasn't working as intended. You know, rather than "fixing" it 16 months later. Or 2 years later. Or 5 years later. *rolls eyes*

lol

I understand now. You're having difficulties understanding what my issue is at the moment, so you decided to try and sound like you had something valid to add. Unfortunately, you failed miserably. I'm not complaining about fixes. I'm not complaining about what needs to be coded. My issue is this horrible habit the devs have for trying to excuse their mistakes by trying to pass the buck to us. "We didn't think the playerbase would do that." is BS.

Let's not even touch the fact that it's now coming to light that several of the "fixes" we've been getting as of late are things the devs were warned about in closed beta! Before it even REACHED live. You're welcome to keep your blinders on, but I won't.

Anyway, weren't you busy grabbing Castle a coffee?

So....you're not a "power gamer". And? Just because you don't specifically like to game this way, doesn't mean others don't. Quit acting like it's your decision how other play the game. I'm not a "power gamer" either. People have a right to play as they see fit. If the devs don't want a player to play with something specific and or don't wish the players to use something a specific way, they have the ability to stop it from happening. But to use the excuse "we didn't know!" isn't good enough anymore. There is no valid reason why any of these alleged exploits should be sitting on the live server for several months to several years.

I'm sure some of you are perfectly ok with paying to play a game where at any given moment anything at all (including creating a character) can be taken away with the excuse "You're doing it wrong!". I on the other hand, am not. Then to top it all off, not only is the fix heavy-handed, but it doesn't even work like it's suppose to! How long before the fix gets "fixed"? If you're naive enough to believe that this is acceptable business practice, I have some land I'm looking to sell. Un....believable.

Instead, why don't you enlighten us on what exactly coding the game has to do with excuses and the fact that they're wearing thin? Reading comprehension for the win!

Don't be ridiculous. No one is saying they absolutely MUST catch every single issue before anything goes live. The issue isn't that these bugs, exploits, whatever exist. The issue is for how long they exist. Please try to follow the thread rather than randomly attempting to sound like you know what you're talking about.

Besides, the excuse "We didn't know you would do that with that!" has been used too many times. This isn't their first year working on this MMO or with this community. We're talking over 5 years now. One generally learns their lesson after the first few times.

Interesting. Please explain how you know what the devs define as an "exploit". Seeing as the devs themselves won't actually tell anyone, you must have some pretty awesome mind-reading abilities!

*rolls eyes* *wipes the brown off your nose*

Quoted because I've not only been saying the same thing for years, but so have several others. If you (as in general) can't see this for what it truly is, you my dear friend are wearing blinders.

The farm-haters are constantly using "fixes" such as these to spout off how the devs hate farmers blah blah blah. They easily ignore the fact that the "farmers" were doing exactly what the devs allowed them to do. Until they changed their mind of course.

I've sat quietly for months, due to the disaster that was the launch of the MA system. A lot of my friends had toons wrongfully deleted and a very big chunk of them left. I left for a couple of months myself. After seeing some of the things coming to the game, such as power customization, Going Rogue, Ultra Mode etc, I came back with a somewhat different attitude. I decided to sit back and let things unfold however they unfold to see if the devs did in fact have us in mind.

What an idiot I was. Power Customization and all the other new toys were just a shiny meant to take our attention away from the same old problems. Once again the devs "fix" issues that have been rampant for months if not years in some cases. The excuse "We never expected the playerbase to utilize <insert your favorite feature> like this! We're sorry!" is getting old now and no longer holds any water. They're well aware that a large portion of the player base will push any and all limits. Faking ignorance is unbecoming. I see that nothing has changed. Am I going to rage-quit over it? No. But I'm certainly not going to hold back anymore. I pay to play and I will voice my dissatisfaction with as long as I'm paying.

Don't even bother using time as an excuse. With all the money they've been pulling in with all of these shiny things, they certainly have enough to hire someone to work specifically on dev "mistakes". Then maybe we wouldn't have to wait for 16 months for something "not working as intended" to get fixed. So ridiculous. I can't believe there is a single person who finds this acceptable in any way.

War Witch, even if you ignore the rest of this post entirely, take this little tiny piece of advice....Stop letting bugs, exploits or other items "not working as intended" sit around for months at a time. This is horrible business practice and you end up with very unpleasant customers.

That's an impossible task. They can't create content faster than we can go through it. It's just one of those things. Hence why we find other ways to amuse ourselves. Like farming.



Not once, anywhere....did I say I was exploiting anything. I was referring to farming in general. Something a select few can't seem to leave alone. Any farming is bad...mmmkay? /sarcasm

I could not have said it better myself.

After playing this game for so long, it was refreshing to be able to boost a toon up by myself without having to rely on anyone else to do it. I could do it quietly alone in the corner. Sadly, not everyone is capable of keeping to themselves and have to ruin it for everyone.

Side note, it always make me laugh when I see people try so hard to claim they hate farming, can't stand it, wouldn't be caught dead doing it...yet they're usually the first to complain about a "fix" resulting from their own whining.

You do realize that even that would cause more issue for non-farmers than farmers. Not only would they have to pay more GM's to sit around approving missions, now we've just dipped into the budget for all those cool things we've been getting lately.

I recommend the non-farmers stop QQ'ing as in the end, you're only hurting yourselves. This has been proven time and time again. But alas, we both know the whining won't stop. It's too far out of character for non-farmers to mind their own business and play their own game. They absolutely must infringe on everyone around them.

Oh well. Sucks to be them!

Incorrect. You could easily stack Defense/Resist bubbles, making you invincible for the most part. You're only thinking of buffs such as Speed Boost or Fort etc. You're forgetting about Dispersion Bubble and Sonic Dispersion

He meant tomorrow. If you look at that time he posted, it was about an hour an a half before midnight.