Fedor

*Pulls his hands away for a moment and then double hand tickles Neko again.*

Heyyyyy PeteyPete!

That's right Puppeh! Double handed is the only way to go. Specially with little sackpeople hands.

Sounds like fun Rad.

*Glomps VexXxa and then proceeds to the double handed kitteh belly scritching.*

*Hops up to get Wendy coffee and a nice warm bagel, then gives Neko and Becky scritches.*

Miss Wendy! So good to see you!

Hello....

NekoDaKittehPogoPogoBeckyNinjaPixieKittehVexXxaRoo kyPeteyPeteDragonPhantomTwipperPhilly

Everyone is coming back, it's a good week in the Rookery!

*Pounces the Puppeh from the shadows and fuzzles his ears maniacally.*

So... he decided to go to the emergency room to get his nabs re-attached.

There is Petey Pete! Was wondering where you was.

I made the mistake of going with a quad core instead of a more powerful duo core. I thought they would be pretty equal, but threading has not kept up. No budget for a new one this year, maybe next year.

Is there a demo of it Rad? Hmmm, not sure my system is up to specs for it I am afraid.

*Tussles epically with the Puppeh and Neko!*

Hi Detra.

Mmmm nope Pogo, but Open Office is free. You can get that through google real easy.

Hey PogoPogo

*Tussles some more with Neko.*

*Tussles with Neko mightily!*

Sorry to hear things are still tight Neko. Hope it works out!

Morning Demon, morning Rad.

Sorry bout the vending machine Rad. I say you sneak back in tonight with some dynamite and blow that thing to smithereens!

*Glomps VexXxa and then POUNCES the Neko!*

Hi Neko! Hey VexXxa!

So good to haz the kitteh back!

Right less chance of detection and easier attack routes because windows security is weak. For example, Apache.

This reasoning backfires when one considers that Apache is by far the most popular web server software on the Internet. According to the September 2004 Netcraft web site survey, [1] 68% of web sites run the Apache web server. Only 21% of web sites run Microsoft IIS. If security problems boil down to the simple fact that malicious hackers target the largest installed base, it follows that we should see more worms, viruses, and other malware targeting Apache and the underlying operating systems for Apache than for Windows and IIS. Furthermore, we should see more successful attacks against Apache than against IIS, since the implication of the myth is that the problem is one of numbers, not vulnerabilities.

Yet this is precisely the opposite of what we find, historically. IIS has long been the primary target for worms and other attacks, and these attacks have been largely successful. The Code Red worm that exploited a buffer overrun in an IIS service to gain control of the web servers infected some 300,000 servers, and the number of infections only stopped because the worm was deliberately written to stop spreading. Code Red.A had an even faster rate of infection, although it too self-terminated after three weeks. Another worm, IISWorm, had a limited impact only because the worm was badly written, not because IIS successfully protected itself.



(from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10...x/#execsummary)

The simple truth is windows is more open to attack. I work in the industry, I see the articles and comparisons Shecky. microsoft has been hammering that market share drum as an excuse rather than taking the time to fix the problems.

But attack one end user and maybe you get some valuable information about one person. Attack a bank and you get THOUSANDS of people at once. The reason the end user is a soft attack target is bad security and windows is a primary reason for that.

For instance, if I run as admin on a windows box software can install WITHOUT ASKING. Unless you have vista then it pops up and asks which most people click away without even reading. (Not sure how 7 handles this.)

On OSX you have to log in the admin account, even while running as admin. Meaning a virus or malware cannot install without you entering a password to give it permission. And that is only one example of the security flaws in windows.

I am up for either side when I am around, generally higher level teams.

The commercial argument makes little sense Shecky. Banks, big companies mostly keep sensitive information on Unix boxes and big iron mainframes. The truth it hackers attack windows because it's easy to attack compared to Unix and OS390.

Edit : Hmm, have not seen that handle that I recall Philly, but sure I will see you around. My global is right in my sig there.

The Puppeh is baaaack! Hiya Puppeh!

*Wanders in pausing to pet the Neko plushie.*

Good morning...

PUPPEHRookySheckySaistPhillyGuyTwipper

Welcome Philly, nice to have ya aboard.

Afternoon Dragon, nice to see you. Watch out for that chair! Ouch, that looked like it hurt.

Hello Bpp and Rad.

*Pushes a plate with stacked pamcakes over towards Mutant while dragging along a gleaming red phone with a big flashy light on top. In a few seconds the old phone is replaced by the very official looking PHONE OF DOOM!*

Hamster ball? Hmmm... well technically it's a Sackperson Sphere.

*Grabs a bagel with butter on a plate from the chef bot and slides it down the counter to Shecky.*

Morning PogoPogo! Goooooood and yourself?

Good morning Shecky, hello Mutant. Would either of you care for a donut or perhaps some pamcakes?

Maybe you would like a red phone with a big flashing light Mutant?