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the huge wow-like advantage

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There is no such thing in WoW anymore.Its been solved for sometime now.

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There is no advantage, there is only... HAMMER OF SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!1

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I play other games for skill-intensive pvp allright. Counterstrike or any other kind of shooter is not among them though.

What bugs me to no small degree is that this game USED to have ok PVP, but then IOs were introduced and it turned into WoW.

I am vocal because this game has nothing left to offer except what is left of pvp. It was my first MMO, I would like to hang around. But I cannot tolerate PvE anymore.

If you dont want me around then fine.
edit: accounts cancelled.

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Hammer, to be honest, you're just annoyed that people who put more effort/time in to the game end up with a better build than you.

It's not much different from someone at level 40 whining because a level 50 has 4 more powers and 21 odd more slots.

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That is why I play games without level progression.

I got better things to do in my life than waste countless hours of boring and repetitive WORK just so I could get a CHANCE to play PVP.

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The point is you do have the chance to PvP.

You can PvP with SO's, you've done it before. Use HO's, use common IO's.

You put more time in to the game, you get more from the game.

It wouldn't work because of travel powers, quite simply it's far too easy to break line of sight in City of Heroes be it in the zones or in PvP.

Plus people on low end systems would lose target far quicker than people on high end systems, I imagine.

Giving ranged AT's something akin to a Dash-near-Target clicky or a medium strength, low duration movement slow would probably work a lot better. That could quite easily bring up a whole raft of problems itself, though.

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I play other games for skill-intensive pvp allright. Counterstrike or any other kind of shooter is not among them though.

What bugs me to no small degree is that this game USED to have ok PVP, but then IOs were introduced and it turned into WoW.

I am vocal because this game has nothing left to offer except what is left of pvp. It was my first MMO, I would like to hang around. But I cannot tolerate PvE anymore.

If you dont want me around then fine.
edit: accounts cancelled.

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Hammer, to be honest, you're just annoyed that people who put more effort/time in to the game end up with a better build than you.

It's not much different from someone at level 40 whining because a level 50 has 4 more powers and 21 odd more slots.

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The broken screen is what makes the PD teleporter unique

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If I remember right, Grandville is also a broken screen.

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No. 6 months in the EU. Just checked.

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Which unless I'm mistaken, isn't available for Maestro.

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Squishies can now solo on invincible (and believe me, I have)

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This is new how?

That's great.

The DR one is the big one for me, though. I still think the Heal Resist could turn out to be a good addition in some cases.

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I'm always up for PvP so would be happy to Shannon.


Rooks is right about the arena being the best place to show each other how good you are as everything can be 100% fair.

Zones are usually unfair sides (only a problem for some) full of farmers or full of people who moan and call you every name under the sun if you beat them. i13 also made pretty much every stalker a "spirit sharking" one, doing 750 damage per ranged attack.

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That and there's always the risk of getting jumped by random PvE, it's not always a problem when it happens but it can certainly mess things up.

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I dunno but I wondered what are all the differences between arena and zonal pvp people notice..apart from how you enter, the limits of space and the maximum number of people.

I started to PvP some recently just to test things out. So far I've liked a fight I been in but haven't been too happy with another in the arenas, and a zonal fight seemed endless. Some things haven't been there aesthetically I guess, or some effects in terms of usefulness have been too weak in comparison to others.

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tl;dr version:

Some things are or feel broken - it's lame.

Working as intended, I mean, hell.

Def Debuff's negating Defense? Next you'll be saying that Res based toons should shrug off -Res!

(and for the record, no, you don't need -300% Res to get shafted on a Res toon if you've got aggro - damn you lolbow!).

I dunno, wait for the reply on the petition I guess.

You're getting the Bonus/effect from the IO's as far as I know, they're just invisible. =\

This is happening in the US as well.

If you log to another toon then swap back, apparently everything will be visible again to you until you zone.

It's weird. =\

If anything happens I might turn up.

/respec LOLSHARKS

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Sighs

If you don't believe either is possible then you need to play some more. It's possible to chase 99% of people down with anything other than a granite tank.

For reference, my spines/sr scrapper was my best zonal pvp character pre I13.


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No wonder your scrapper was best zonal PvP, since spines is the only set with many ranged attacks for meele toons.

Spines dont count as meele imao.

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Oh no throw spines! If one ranged attack means it's not melee, then your point doesn't apply to RV as every single Melee AT has access to a ranged attack.

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I played many mmorpg, name ONE where ranged casters have equally high defensive ratings, meele toons have.
They can heal pretty well the Dr on healing arent that bad considering they take like 40% less damg from attacks now.

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Defense =/= Survivability.

I see your challenge and raise you a Restoration Druid, Holy/Discipline Priest and Holy Paladin in World of Warcraft.

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Many meele toon players agree with me btw....

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That's nice, I'm sure many melee toons disagree as well.

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How do YOU bring down a superspeeding, bunnyhopping blaster or defender as a meeletoon ?

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This is not a new problem introduced with Issue 13, so I fail to see why you bring this up now. If anything the movement suppression, in addition to the increased melee base range, makes it easier to get off more attacks in melee.

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How do YOU stop them from attacking you while they stay out of your attacks range ?

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Please see the above statement.

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Tell me why there is a need to give ranged toons higher resists than meele toons ?

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Because ranged toons, as a general rule, have lower HP and lower non-def/res based mitigation tools.

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You DO know ranged toons or healers are squishy in EVERY mmorpg on the market for a reason.

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What? No. Do your research. Also - again, not an issue introduced with I13. Empaths, for example, if played well were always hard to kill. Now, though, they can't spam Healing Aura while running at max speed.

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They trade their ability to deal massive damg from safe range for their squishiness.

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Yes because Blaster damage is so [censored] OP right now isn't it?


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Meele trade their better survivability like higher defenses and higher HP for the fact, that they need to REACH their victims in order to do anything.

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They also trade survivability for lower damage. This has always been the problem with Melee and, again, was not introduced in Issue 13.

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In 13 ranged toons loose their weakness while meele toons weakness is still the same.

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In Issue 13 ranged toons are all sorts of broken when it comes to damage output. A Stalker spamming LOLSHARKS > a Blaster.

What exactly rolled faces so much that you came and posted this thread? I'd honestly like to know.

Wasn't it his Birthday yesterday?

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But this time it's different...no buffs or speed boosting at all - that means no travel powers and no sprint! And espicially those Kin buffs! The winner will recieve a special reward.


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Will you be disallowing /SR players, Nightwidow's or anyone that's got Swift and/or Hurdle?

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There's also the misconception that setting your difficulty to "Invincible" is just... better. Pff to that, I say! It's all just a false economy. Fighting higher mobs just means slower XPPM, and a far higher ratio of deaths, which further slows XPPM due to debt...

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If you suck, sure. 9/10 times Unyielding gives the best risk/reward ratio for me - and yes, both XPPM and IPM.

That's pretty awesome. I've got a base and a half to redesign still, might have to try it.

I think one of the the biggest things would be player models, they've basically used up all the points where they can anchor costume pieces on a player model now.

It's one reason we've not gotten backpacks.

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I don't think there are any players left to test the new PvP for the Dev's...they seem to have all left. Does that tell the Dev's something?

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No.

As sad as it is there'll average out to be more casual testers throwing back feedback now it's live than there were committed PvP'ers on Test doing so.

I don't think I've seen a TV ad for any MMO other than WoW to be honest.